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Terper posted:??? Tabata and Yoshi-P are not the same person Fuuuuuuck Well now all my expectations have been reset because I'm a dumbass
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Nov 28, 2016 16:48
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Terper posted:??? Tabata and Yoshi-P are not the same person This. Tabata worked on Crisis Core and Type-0. Also, 3rd Birthday  Endorph posted:ff14 has the best story and writing in the series, but not until Heavensward Augus fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Nov 28, 2016 16:52
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Biggest review surprise: Polygon gave it 9/10
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Nov 28, 2016 16:54
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Tabata comes from a mobile and handheld background. Previous to FFXV, he was most well known for directing Crisis Core under Nomura and having his own take on Final Fantasy with Type-0. In hindsight, having someone who understands how to work with limitations was the perfect man to actually get FFXV out. Even if FFXV isn't a commercial hit, I can see Tabata moving up the company ranks just for shipping the game and having it come out to positive reviews. SE tends to favor people who ship games more or less on time and work well with directives from management, such as Toriyama.
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Nov 28, 2016 16:56
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I just watched Brotherhood, and I actually like the overarching plot premise. The story of a deposed Prince's journey to reclaim his conquered throne seems like a great set up for the type of grand scale Final Fantasy games go for. I wonder what they do to mess it up so badly in the game, because really it's one of their stronger set ups.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:15
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MrLonghair posted:Biggest review surprise: Polygon gave it 9/10 Square gave them exactly what they wanted in a game, Leather Gladio Butt.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:19
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MrLonghair posted:Biggest review surprise: Polygon gave it 9/10 Is this supposed to be shocking or funny? I don't get it.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:22
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Norns posted:Is this supposed to be shocking or funny? I don't get it. Polygon once gave a popular game a below 8 score and we'll never ever let that go.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:23
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Megasabin posted:I just watched Brotherhood, and I actually like the overarching plot premise. The story of a deposed Prince's journey to reclaim his conquered throne seems like a great set up for the type of grand scale Final Fantasy games go for. I wonder what they do to mess it up so badly in the game, because really it's one of their stronger set ups. Apparently it's so hyper-focused on the main cast that everything else about the plot/world goes hopelessly out of focus. All of the secondary characters have no depth or motivation and barely any screen time. Big Important Events are constantly going on but you're never around to see or take part in them. Et cetera. It really does sound like the same issue FFXIII had. Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Nov 28, 2016 17:25
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all the reviews so far have bashed the plot :I
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Nov 28, 2016 17:26
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Relin posted:all the reviews so far have bashed the plot :I This is probably the least surprising thing ever.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:29
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Yeah, optimism is great and all but there was no way in hell that Tabata and co. were going to completely pull this project's script out of the fire. Too much ambition, too many missed chances and dangling threads. The fact that the gameplay turned out well and the main characters are likable is probably a best-case scenario.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:30
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And hey, you might still enjoy it even if no one else does. personal experience
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Nov 28, 2016 17:31
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Oxxidation posted:Apparently it's so hyper-focused on the main cast that everything else about the plot/world goes hopelessly out of focus. All of the secondary characters has no depth or motivation and barely any screen time. Big Important Events are constantly going on but you're never around to see or take part in them. Et cetera. difference being that this main cast is very lovable
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Nov 28, 2016 17:33
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Play Falcom games if you want plot to blow your mind with, Trails of Cold Steel for most recent series, it's hard to begin describing all the things going on but it is the greatest that I have had the pleasure to go through especially in times my mouth was left agape and brain left thinking holy loving poo poo. Dragon Quest games go deep as all hell with plot too, but FF games in the 3D era have always struck me as games that tried quite well but ended up with focus on the characters and what they go through.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:34
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And if nothing else, the immense amounts of gay porn will no doubt be worth it
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Nov 28, 2016 17:36
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tbh it's way easier for a jrpg to have good characters than it is for it to have a good plot the things that make jrpgs sometimes bad for stories (padding, slow starts, random plot parking lots that have nothing to do with anything else) are the things that help their characters (lots of room for characters to breathe and establish themselves, chances for them to get little arcs dedicated solely to them) not to say there aren't jrpgs with good plots (see: trails) but a jrpg with a disjointed plot and a fun cast sounds like FF9, and people love that game.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:37
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I liked the plot for ffx, the characters were poo poo though besides Auron
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Nov 28, 2016 17:37
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Oxxidation posted:Apparently it's so hyper-focused on the main cast that everything else about the plot/world goes hopelessly out of focus. All of the secondary characters have no depth or motivation and barely any screen time. Big Important Events are constantly going on but you're never around to see or take part in them. Et cetera. That's a shame. I really like the characters from what I've seen, but the world seemed great too. It seemed like a really neat re-imagining of some classic Final Fantasy motifs. You think they would just have those big important events be set pieces between the exploring, but I guess they ran out of time to do that.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:37
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As long as someone doesn't sit in a chair lit by a spotlight and tell me what happened I think I can be okay with a weak second half of a game. S-E would NEVER do that
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Nov 28, 2016 17:41
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It couldn't be as bad as Xenogears second disc.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:42
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Star Ocean 5.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:43
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MrLonghair posted:Play Falcom games if you want plot to blow your mind with, Trails of Cold Steel for most recent series, it's hard to begin describing all the things going on but it is the greatest that I have had the pleasure to go through especially in times my mouth was left agape and brain left thinking holy loving poo poo. Dragon Quest games go deep as all hell with plot too, but FF games in the 3D era have always struck me as games that tried quite well but ended up with focus on the characters and what they go through. is trails in the sky the one to start with for this series?
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Nov 28, 2016 17:44
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queeb posted:is trails in the sky the one to start with for this series? You can start with Cold Steel 1 no problem, they're all in the same world, two non-localized ones take place the same TIME but for another culture and region. There's back-information and books in-game that give you a good idea of the world, history and setup.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:47
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Oxxidation posted:Eurogamer made it to the end and from what they say the game practically pulls a Xenogears Disc 2 in its final act. Guess we'll see. This is what a lot of the reviews say. Or like an inverse FFXIII mixed with some of the criticisms of FFXII's story: the game starts out really open, then gets extremely linear in its last act, and the whole time, your party is never really there for the most impactful story moments (something a lot of people really don't like about FFXII). In FFXII they at least still happen on-screen in cutscenes, but it sounds like you just sort of hear about things happening that you never saw in FFXV, which would be pretty disappointing.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:47
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queeb posted:is trails in the sky the one to start with for this series? The game takes a long time to get going. It is a slow burn. Also if you don't like the story, there isn't anything else left because the combat is real simple.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:48
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MrLonghair posted:You can start with Cold Steel 1 no problem, they're all in the same world, two non-localized ones take place the same TIME but for another culture and region. There's back-information and books in-game that give you a good idea of the world, history and setup. Cold Steel spoils one big twist from the end of the first part of Sky but that's about it.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:48
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So is this like a bigger budget Type-0? I just saw my first gameplay footage, and it seems jarringly familiar to a game I couldn't spend two hours on. Is the gameplay 'better' ?
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Nov 28, 2016 17:49
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tenderjerk posted:So is this like a bigger budget Type-0? I just saw my first gameplay footage, and it seems jarringly familiar to a game I couldn't spend two hours on. Is the gameplay 'better' ? Reviews in general seem to be very positive about the combat, even the ones that are down on the story. Magic is less of a thing than you'd expect in an FF game, but the weapon combat is apparently fantastic.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:50
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"Blow your mind" is a real bad expectation to bring to a Trails opening though.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:55
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Motto posted:"Blow your mind" is a real bad expectation to bring to a Trails opening though. Yeah, Trails are super slow loving burn games. They're so slow burn that the plot doesn't usually kick into high gear until the end of the first game in a series!
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Nov 28, 2016 17:56
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tenderjerk posted:So is this like a bigger budget Type-0? I just saw my first gameplay footage, and it seems jarringly familiar to a game I couldn't spend two hours on. Is the gameplay 'better' ? It plays nothing like Type-0
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Nov 28, 2016 17:57
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tenderjerk posted:So is this like a bigger budget Type-0? I just saw my first gameplay footage, and it seems jarringly familiar to a game I couldn't spend two hours on. Is the gameplay 'better' ? there are vague similarities here and there but only vague ones.
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Nov 28, 2016 17:58
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, Trails are super slow loving burn games. They're so slow burn that the plot doesn't usually kick into high gear until the end of the first game in a series! But then every game after the first keeps that pace, right?
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Nov 28, 2016 17:58
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Golden Goat posted:But then every game after the first keeps that pace, right? Of the ones we've gotten the second part is a lot more Things Are In High Gear. We haven't gotten the third parts of either but from what I understand the Trails in the Sky 3rd Chapter is back to being pretty chill. ToCS Chapter 3 will probably be a slower burn than part 2.
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Nov 28, 2016 18:01
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Endorph posted:ff14 has the best story and writing in the series
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Nov 28, 2016 18:02
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I just need 3rd Chapter to be like a ~30 hour epilogue to 2nd Chapter, I don't need high gear.
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Nov 28, 2016 18:02
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Honestly my expectations for FFXV are basically that it's going to be the FF version of Metal Gear Solid V: great gameplay, dubiously necessary open world, story's treated like an afterthought but acts like it's more profound than it is.
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Nov 28, 2016 18:09
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If FFXV is MGS5 quality then I'll be goddamn delighted. "Lots of gameplay, unobtrusive story" is way better than the alternative.
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Nov 28, 2016 18:29
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FactsAreUseless posted:I love Final Fantasy 14 but this is not even a little bit true. What it has is some very good dialogue that helps to make all the quests a little more memorable. It still can't manage the character arcs you get with a non-MMO game, and the plot has serious pacing issues. There are tons of things I like about FF14's writing, but it is not the best in the series. I think it's more fair to say that FF14 has the best cosmology and does really cool things conceptually with the universe but is just okay with actual moment to moment gameplay story. Like of all the games it has the coolest reason why there are summons.
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Nov 28, 2016 18:32
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