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THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

and also because young southeast asian women are always setting him off with their feet

:vince:

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Spiv
Oct 9, 2006

When life throws lemons at you, nuke the fucker!

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

We call him Rasheed "The Landmine" Walrus because his dick looks like a landmine

Omg. These last two posts. Thread over.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


GoGoGadgetChris posted:

and also because young southeast asian women are always setting him off with their feet

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Waffle House posted:

The PGS thread is a good place to coordinate with goons. Depending on the platform you may want to ask for a Slack invite, or someone (maybe me, drat) should really set up Discord for PS4

I'd be down for a PS4 Discord.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

We call him Rasheed "The Landmine" Walrus because his dick looks like a landmine



GoGoGadgetChris posted:

and also because young southeast asian women are always setting him off with their feet

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.

Waffle House posted:

someone (maybe me, drat) should really set up Discord for PS4

Policenaut posted:

I'd be down for a PS4 Discord.

I think a discord already exists? I can't remember since I'm drunk high all the time.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


el B posted:

I think a discord already exists? I can't remember since I'm drunk high all the time.

Both the PGS thread and this one seem to basically say the same thing RE: PS4Goon communication since at least 2015:

quote:

How do I play with goons on PS4?
:siren: Somebody send me what to put here :siren:

This seems like a gross oversight that can be quickly rectified

Menstrual Show
Jun 3, 2004

el B posted:

I think a discord already exists? I can't remember since I'm drunk high all the time.

I made one like a year ago and the PGS crew got really mad about it, but it's still there lol

Feel free

https://discord.gg/eyyjU3S

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!
Alright to be honest I've been thinking about a calm and collected way to state my concerns and I think I finally figured it out and mainly there are only a few of them but they're fairly large concerns for a game on the scale of Destiny.
Lack of build variety: I find that in Destiny part of the beauty of the game is being able to choose between perks to make them have synergies with each other. Destiny 2 is effectively killing this with what currently looks forcing us to run 1 of 2 sets of predetermined perks. That's a step backwards in any world just because you go from giving us free reign of our subclass to forcing us to choose how we want to play. What happened to play your way?
Weapon Slots: This is a personal gripe with the way the weapon system has been reconfigured in D2. What is the point of the energy weapon outside of killing supers faster in crucible or using them in possible burn modifiers if those come back. I understand how shields in Destiny work for enemies in PvE but let's be honest it's not like an explosive rounds scout or a grenade of any element exactly had a problem tearing through any shield regardless of elemental weakness. What was the point of basically giving us 2 primaries, removing machine guns, and making shotguns and fusion rifles and snipers the same slot as rocket launchers and grenade launchers? In my opinion this was a small step backwards.
Catering to PvP: I'm sorry ahead of time because this isn't going to make me any friends but it needs to be said. I heavily agree with Datto on this topic. The lack of ability cooldowns, the lack of good weapons in the secondary slot, and my previous complaint of lacking subclass customization. They all feel like they were meant to cater towards PvP. It feels like instead of figuring out a way to balance PvP they just said "gently caress it" and just tried to balance everything around PvP. That's not good game design. This isn't overwatch, CoD, or titanfall. You have PvE content that noone complained about ability spam in. Did Warpriest, Vosik, Golgoroth, and Templar all go to the Bungie forums and cry about snipers being OP and needing to be heavy weapon? No, but crucible players have bitched about getting their heads taken off when they brainlessly walk around a corner that's clearly a sniper lane. Did strike bosses, PoE bosses, and story bosses go to the forums and complain about shotguns shredding their health too fast? No, but crucible players have bitched about them since day 1 being too good with the only acceptable complaint was felwinters lie because when it was introduced nothing except another felwinters could compete with it in the special slot. That changed in HoW however. All your changes to abilities and weapons were based around PvP which isn't the focus of Destiny. Huge step backwards.
I hope this post doesn't just get downvoted into oblivion, but it's my feelings on the current state of how Destiny 2 is looking and honestly I don't even know if it's a worthy sequel at this point. The PvE better be amazing with these new changes because if this game has the same PvP focus it feels like Destiny had since HoW dropped I don't think it's going to last.

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.
Games not out yet

THE BIG DOG DADDY
Oct 16, 2013

Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.


No one talks about this.
Crazy it's almost like PvP is a much better return on investment for game developers because one raid map = 6 PvP maps in terms of assets and time to create and yet people get tired of a raid after two weeks but will play PvP on the same maps for months and years

the good fax machine
Feb 26, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Source your quotes

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.
Quick question for D2: What's the benefit of the kinetic weapon and why would I ever be using it over the energy one?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

qbert posted:

Quick question for D2: What's the benefit of the kinetic weapon and why would I ever be using it over the energy one?

I think specific weapons only roll as kinetic or energy so if there's a Good Hand Cannon that's kinetic, you're not finding an energy version of it anywhere.

So presumably the way to balance this is to make the stats of the kinetic weapons generally a little better than the energy ones.

the good fax machine
Feb 26, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo

qbert posted:

Quick question for D2: What's the benefit of the kinetic weapon and why would I ever be using it over the energy one?

Finite ammunition? Special ammo has always been limited. I suppose kinetic weapons could also do more damage to unshielded enemies.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Get ready for an exotic primary whose main perk is an elemental burn

Monolith.
Jan 28, 2011

To save the world from the expanding Zone.

el B posted:

Games not out yet

Though its probably done for all intents and purposes. I highly doubt Bungie will change how the weapon slots work. While PvP is important, if they balance PvE around that then this will come back to bite them. I did hear that they changed around their architecture so they can balance (read nerf) individual weapons instead of blanket nerfing an entire class of them.

At the end of the day, I want an actual sequel and from what we've seen so far, it doesn't look like we are getting that. It does look very much improved but there are still some niggling things that bother me.

I hope you're right and the beta proves my worries 100 percent wrong.

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

Monolith. posted:


At the end of the day, I want an actual sequel and from what we've seen so far, it doesn't look like we are getting that.

what does this even mean

What does an "actual sequel" look like, is it a VR-only RTS where you cone dudes from orbit

OdinsBeard
Jul 12, 2003

I don't think about my hands too much. Just trying to hit the ball in the air. Hit the ball in the air!

Legs Benedict posted:

what does this even mean

What does an "actual sequel" look like, is it a VR-only RTS where you cone dudes from orbit

This would be a pretty good Rasputin spin off game.

Menstrual Show
Jun 3, 2004

tweet that poo poo at luke smith!!!

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
This is a sequel the same way Splatoon 2 is a sequel

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user

Monolith. posted:

Though its probably done for all intents and purposes. I highly doubt Bungie will change how the weapon slots work. While PvP is important, if they balance PvE around that then this will come back to bite them. I did hear that they changed around their architecture so they can balance (read nerf) individual weapons instead of blanket nerfing an entire class of them.

At the end of the day, I want an actual sequel and from what we've seen so far, it doesn't look like we are getting that. It does look very much improved but there are still some niggling things that bother me.

I hope you're right and the beta proves my worries 100 percent wrong.

Des2ny is actually the real Destiny 1.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
The real Destiny starts here

JorgeHWB
Jan 15, 2016

Aww, ugly duckling...
bawk-bawk

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

We call him Rasheed "The Landmine" Walrus because his dick looks like a landmine

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

and also because young southeast asian women are always setting him off with their feet

:discourse: :five:

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I do agree with the PvP quote, keep that poo poo separate please. Attempting to balance the joke of a PvP that crucible is is pointless anyway, you can't balance around the sheer amount if weapons and perks weapons can roll with, add abilities into the mix and its just one giant poo poo sandwich.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

__________________

hiddenriverninja posted:

Get ready for an exotic primary whose main perk is an elemental burn

Lol

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene
Destiny having the same guns for PvE and PvP is a big part of why it's a success

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I agree completely. For instance, the raid weapons (all of them)

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Lol if you cant do even the hardest pve content with whatever weapon you have on hand.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

BlindSite posted:

Lol if you cant do even the hardest pve content with whatever weapon you have on hand.

The hardest PvE content: interacting with other people. :smith:

CheeseFactory
May 12, 2009

MAYBE A DINGO ATE YOUR K/D

Legs Benedict posted:

Alright to be honest I've been thinking about a calm and collected way to state my concerns and I think I finally figured it out and mainly there are only a few of them but they're fairly large concerns for a game on the scale of Destiny.
Lack of build variety: I find that in Destiny part of the beauty of the game is being able to choose between perks to make them have synergies with each other. Destiny 2 is effectively killing this with what currently looks forcing us to run 1 of 2 sets of predetermined perks. That's a step backwards in any world just because you go from giving us free reign of our subclass to forcing us to choose how we want to play. What happened to play your way?
Weapon Slots: This is a personal gripe with the way the weapon system has been reconfigured in D2. What is the point of the energy weapon outside of killing supers faster in crucible or using them in possible burn modifiers if those come back. I understand how shields in Destiny work for enemies in PvE but let's be honest it's not like an explosive rounds scout or a grenade of any element exactly had a problem tearing through any shield regardless of elemental weakness. What was the point of basically giving us 2 primaries, removing machine guns, and making shotguns and fusion rifles and snipers the same slot as rocket launchers and grenade launchers? In my opinion this was a small step backwards.
Catering to PvP: I'm sorry ahead of time because this isn't going to make me any friends but it needs to be said. I heavily agree with Datto on this topic. The lack of ability cooldowns, the lack of good weapons in the secondary slot, and my previous complaint of lacking subclass customization. They all feel like they were meant to cater towards PvP. It feels like instead of figuring out a way to balance PvP they just said "gently caress it" and just tried to balance everything around PvP. That's not good game design. This isn't overwatch, CoD, or titanfall. You have PvE content that noone complained about ability spam in. Did Warpriest, Vosik, Golgoroth, and Templar all go to the Bungie forums and cry about snipers being OP and needing to be heavy weapon? No, but crucible players have bitched about getting their heads taken off when they brainlessly walk around a corner that's clearly a sniper lane. Did strike bosses, PoE bosses, and story bosses go to the forums and complain about shotguns shredding their health too fast? No, but crucible players have bitched about them since day 1 being too good with the only acceptable complaint was felwinters lie because when it was introduced nothing except another felwinters could compete with it in the special slot. That changed in HoW however. All your changes to abilities and weapons were based around PvP which isn't the focus of Destiny. Huge step backwards.
I hope this post doesn't just get downvoted into oblivion, but it's my feelings on the current state of how Destiny 2 is looking and honestly I don't even know if it's a worthy sequel at this point. The PvE better be amazing with these new changes because if this game has the same PvP focus it feels like Destiny had since HoW dropped I don't think it's going to last.

I feel like they are making things bland to make them balanced.

But I'll reserve judgment until i play it.

CheeseFactory fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Jun 20, 2017

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe

Policenaut posted:

I'd be down for a PS4 Discord.

+1

Gr4vyB04t
Jan 31, 2010

Hey gurl, hey.

+2

Monolith.
Jan 28, 2011

To save the world from the expanding Zone.

Legs Benedict posted:

what does this even mean

What does an "actual sequel" look like, is it a VR-only RTS where you cone dudes from orbit

It means I want some value for the time I put in the game. The shooting and movement is good, don't fix that. I want an actual story this time that I can't blow through in 3 hours. When I take down a boss, give me something useful.

Especially since the game is essentially rebooted now, I want to go from weak to wrecking the normal content. Don't just make bullet sponge bosses, but don't make the mechanics so arbitrary that its more annoying than challenging.

As I've said before, some new reload animations would be nice. Some new gun models would be nice. PvE ship combat, even if tacked on, would be nice. I don't want my ship to be a glorified loading screen. Let me hunt for gear for my craft.

Hth.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

I don't play with goons because I don't speak english.

But I will play the PS4 version.

+1

the good fax machine
Feb 26, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
They already said that your ship is nothing more than a loading screen, so don't hold your breath. Besides, you're probably in the minority here, I'd wager that most people wouldn't give a single poo poo about some tacked-on ship combat mode. Nobody plays this game for the sparrow racing.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

__________________

the good fax machine posted:

They already said that your ship is nothing more than a loading screen, so don't hold your breath. Besides, you're probably in the minority here, I'd wager that most people wouldn't give a single poo poo about some tacked-on ship combat mode. Nobody plays this game for the sparrow racing.

Yeah, I don't want Bungie loving off with an entirely different and new set of mechanics for a 3 minute story mission that won't be played a second time until Year 6 when it gets added to a playlist for Era of Success.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It would be fun to be able to control your ship in the loading screen, body check your bros around.

Menstrual Show
Jun 3, 2004

https://discord.gg/eyyjU3S

Bunch of new people joined yesterday, I'm figuring out how to add admins and poo poo. If bone knew wants to join in and sh*t post as well please feel free, I'll admin a few of you as well.

Menstrual Show fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jun 20, 2017

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Tei
Feb 19, 2011

I would not mind is Destiny 3 comes with some hacking the vex minigame thing, or vex cybervrspace internet where you troll the vex gods on their vex facebook-throne world.

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