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vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

Rickety Cricket posted:

Are you taking a Beech 99 into DCA?

Negatory. CRJ.

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Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
Anyone ever done the skyline route through NYC? gonna try it out tomorrow with a flight of three. Hope I don’t get violated!!

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Bob A Feet posted:

Anyone ever done the skyline route through NYC? gonna try it out tomorrow with a flight of three. Hope I don’t get violated!!

At what time? If I’m around I can take pics

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

PT6A posted:

Planes do not enjoy being flown, this is why they inflict their vengeance on pilots with a baffling number of odd bruises, cuts, strains and miscellaneous discomforts :v:

It is amazing how a seat that probably costs 6 figures to replace can be so uncomfortable.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Rickety Cricket posted:

Are you taking a Beech 99 into DCA?

I hear they can fit several of those on the runway at the same time there!

KodiakRS
Jul 11, 2012

:stonk:

Rolo posted:

It is amazing how a seat that probably costs 6 figures to replace can be so uncomfortable.

I'm pretty sure that your average Brazilian pilot is about 5' tall and never lands in a crosswind because it's the only rational explanation for why the 175 seat and yoke are designed the way they are.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

Animal posted:

At what time? If I’m around I can take pics

It’ll be about 1230 if we do it. Looking at ForeFlight though it looks like the whole east coast is in the goo right now :(

AWSEFT
Apr 28, 2006

Ex-CEO of Pinnacle Airlines shot in Memphis

two_beer_bishes
Jun 27, 2004

Holy poo poo

Rickety Cricket
Jan 6, 2011

I must be at the nexus of the universe!

Hey I just came from there. Totally unrelated.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Rolo posted:

It is amazing how a seat that probably costs 6 figures to replace can be so uncomfortable.

All of my students, to start out, always complain about being either too tall or too short for the 172. Lies! There is no right size to be, it's always awkward and vaguely uncomfortable. The man for whom they originally designed the plane must have had some exceedingly strange proportions.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
My instructor (~6'2", 200lb) often complains about the size of the 152 and admittedly he is about as big as you can physically be and still fit in the plane.

Me (5'11", 152lb ironically), I put that plane on like a pair of pants and it's lovely :3:

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

You guys have no idea about uncomfortable aircraft until you fly the Grumman Cougar. That thing was miserable if you were over, say, 5'9" tall (like I am); my head would sit up against the roof, and there was no way at all to adjust the seat height since you were basically sitting on a rail fixed right to the wing spar.

I have no idea how my 6'7" classmate managed to do his multi/multi-IFR ratings, not without extensive visits to a physiotherapist at least...

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
I’ve been a little surprised how comfy the Warrior I’ve been flying is. I mean it’s cozy but pretty pleasant. Just wish the yoke was a smidge higher so I could check the controls without smashing my thighs.

a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY

Sagebrush posted:

My instructor (~6'2", 200lb) often complains about the size of the 152 and admittedly he is about as big as you can physically be and still fit in the plane.

Me (5'11", 152lb ironically), I put that plane on like a pair of pants and it's lovely :3:

I'm 6'2" 215lbs and I fit into a 152 just fine. A little bit like putting on a glove that's a *bit* too small.

172s are weird because if you put your feet flat on the floor under the pedals it makes them fall asleep after awhile. That's when I play the "seat all the way back, have fun finding trim again" game

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

Fly a 20 or 30 series Lear sometime. That airplane is small and bad and gently caress you. Even the 747, the queen of the skies, has a severely sloped overhead panel you’d whack your head against if you didn’t stoop halfway while getting in the seat. So yeah, airplanes are always and forever more uncomfortable to sit in than your average Camry.

Arson Daily fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Sep 29, 2018

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Let's put two pilots over 6'4 225lb in a Lear 36. They'll both fit, sure, but watching them climb in would probably make for a very specific kind of porno.

e: beaten! Now that I think about it, any video of someone trying to get in the cockpit of a Lear 20-30 would probably make a very specific kind of porno.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
The seat in the PC-12 seemed pretty good once you were in, but getting in and out was a wee bit of a pain.

Rickety Cricket
Jan 6, 2011

I must be at the nexus of the universe!

MrChips posted:

You guys have no idea about uncomfortable aircraft until you fly the Grumman Cougar. That thing was miserable if you were over, say, 5'9" tall (like I am); my head would sit up against the roof, and there was no way at all to adjust the seat height since you were basically sitting on a rail fixed right to the wing spar.

I have no idea how my 6'7" classmate managed to do his multi/multi-IFR ratings, not without extensive visits to a physiotherapist at least...

I'm about 5' 9" and loved everything about the Cougar

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Sagebrush posted:

My instructor (~6'2", 200lb) often complains about the size of the 152 and admittedly he is about as big as you can physically be and still fit in the plane.

Me (5'11", 152lb ironically), I put that plane on like a pair of pants and it's lovely :3:

The only awkward thing about somebody that big in a 152 is initially getting used to the instructor reach.

I was given a briefing on the instructor reach before we started so that I wouldn't think he was being weird.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

Man, I instructed for Phil at KSWO for a year. Liked to party, liked to drink beer - as did I. What a weird end.

Captain Apollo
Jun 24, 2003

King of the Pilots, CFI

ausgezeichnet posted:

Man, I instructed for Phil at KSWO for a year. Liked to party, liked to drink beer - as did I. What a weird end.

You’re a flying Aggie?

helno
Jun 19, 2003

hmm now were did I leave that plane
Is anyone here using a Stratux while up in the flight levels?

If so send me a PM. Might have some new hardware for you to test.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

helno posted:

Is anyone here using a Stratux while up in the flight levels?

If so send me a PM. Might have some new hardware for you to test.

Was just flying with a guy yesterday who was using one. Seemed to work great and made me want to get one.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

Captain Apollo posted:

You’re a flying Aggie?

Affirm. A long time ago.

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'
Speaking of stratux, do any of you guys have experience with it versus the stratus or sentry? Are you pretty much just paying for the form factor and internal battery?

Rickety Cricket
Jan 6, 2011

I must be at the nexus of the universe!

dupersaurus posted:

Speaking of stratux, do any of you guys have experience with it versus the stratus or sentry? Are you pretty much just paying for the form factor and internal battery?

And paying for the fact that it's sold at Sporty's. Save your money and build a Stratux

two_beer_bishes
Jun 27, 2004

dupersaurus posted:

Speaking of stratux, do any of you guys have experience with it versus the stratus or sentry? Are you pretty much just paying for the form factor and internal battery?

I have about 200 hours of use with my Stratux and wouldn't trade it for anything. My boss keeps a Stratus in the plane too but it didn't provide anything other than the GPS position when I connected to it so I just use my stratux. I'm sure it's just a configuration thing but I didn't feel like loving with it when mine works just fine.

RazNation
Aug 5, 2015

CBJSprague24 posted:

The only awkward thing about somebody that big in a 152 is initially getting used to the instructor reach.

I was given a briefing on the instructor reach before we started so that I wouldn't think he was being weird.

I guess that would be my biggest fear.......instructor saying 'Here, let me fix that for you!', while reaching across. :ohdear:

Ormy
Apr 5, 2005
It might have taken the CAA nine whole weeks to process my application but I finally have my UK PPL. Can you stick me on the list?

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Ormy posted:

It might have taken the CAA nine whole weeks to process my application but I finally have my UK PPL. Can you stick me on the list?

9 weeks? Transport Canada could learn a thing or two it sounds like, they took 86 days to process my instructor rating, and the temporary rating was good for exactly 90 days so I was getting a wee bit nervous :v:

Congratulations!

Ormy
Apr 5, 2005

PT6A posted:

9 weeks? Transport Canada could learn a thing or two it sounds like, they took 86 days to process my instructor rating, and the temporary rating was good for exactly 90 days so I was getting a wee bit nervous :v:

Congratulations!

Thanks. Oh wow, it isn't just over here then. At least you got issued something temporary!

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

The 1500 hour rule stays in place and, it appears, may not even have been up for debate in the Reauthorization bill which passed today.

My school just got R-ATP approval and we have a ton of students who are ineligible for the time reductions because there's no grandfathering, which is a joke. I have students who just started instrument who are ineligible because they started before it took effect. :(

RazNation posted:

I guess that would be my biggest fear.......instructor saying 'Here, let me fix that for you!', while reaching across. :ohdear:

That instructor was very clear about what was going on and didn't want me to think he was coming onto me, which I later found out was in part because he was known to be slightly homophobic. (Neither of us were gay and he'd get jabbed about it from time to time by other instructors).

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Oct 4, 2018

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

CBJSprague24 posted:

The 1500 hour rule stays in place and, it appears, may not even have been up for debate in the Reauthorization bill which passed today.

My school just got R-ATP approval and we have a ton of students who are ineligible for the time reductions because there's no grandfathering, which is a joke. I have students who just started instrument who are ineligible because they started before it took effect. :(

R-ATP is one of the most glaring bits of cronyism in recent memory, and any congresscritter involved with it at any level should be tarred and feathered.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
It's complete bullshit. At least up here all we have to deal with is stupid college programs promising a guaranteed interview with a regional airline after you graduate! (spoiler alert: they'll interview you, but only actually hire a 300-hour graduate slightly after the second coming of christ).

I think the 1500 hour requirement is absurdly high to act as co-pilot, as I am led to believe the US now requires, but I also think there's absolutely nothing that replace actual experience flying planes, and any regulation that suggests otherwise is asinine. The college program I spoke of used to fly Tecnam P2006Ts as their twin trainer -- lol just imagine going from that to something that flies at... even the speed of a Seneca, much less a Beech 1900 or something.

AWSEFT
Apr 28, 2006

PT6A posted:

I think the 1500 hour requirement is absurdly high to act as co-pilot, as I am led to believe the US now requires, but I also think there's absolutely nothing that replace actual experience flying planes, and any regulation that suggests otherwise is asinine.

Funny thing to me about these college programs is they're so structured the students graduating (and qualifying for lower hiring minimums) have only flown to a handful of airports. That isn't real flying experience.

The 1500 rule helps with experience but the glaring mistake is that it doesn't require that you've flown into x number of airports or x number or types. You could earn all that time flying to from one airport dragging a banner but once you hit 1500 you're just as qualified as the 1500 hour guy driving a PC-12 around the country (in ice, heat, small strips, Class B airports, etc).

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

MrYenko posted:

R-ATP is one of the most glaring bits of cronyism in recent memory, and any congresscritter involved with it at any level should be tarred and feathered.

I'm going to have to fight going full dumbshit at Schumer on Twitter if enough students I tell "You went through the program here, but still have to get all 1500, sorry. Yell at your Congressman? :shrug:" verbally disembowel me, because the other coordinator and I get to filter through the unwashed hordes of ironically more-trained Instrument/Commercial/Multi/CFI/CFII/MEI-certified students soon. :shepicide:

That's where I wish there was a grandfathering system where if you took the classes and did IR and COMM in the last (period), you're good. They took the same classes, with the same instructors, and flew with many of the same CFIs to be further along in their training, yet they don't get the time break? :ramsay:

PT6A posted:

It's complete bullshit. At least up here all we have to deal with is stupid college programs promising a guaranteed interview with a regional airline after you graduate! (spoiler alert: they'll interview you, but only actually hire a 300-hour graduate slightly after the second coming of christ).

I think the 1500 hour requirement is absurdly high to act as co-pilot, as I am led to believe the US now requires, but I also think there's absolutely nothing that replace actual experience flying planes, and any regulation that suggests otherwise is asinine. The college program I spoke of used to fly Tecnam P2006Ts as their twin trainer -- lol just imagine going from that to something that flies at... even the speed of a Seneca, much less a Beech 1900 or something.

That's what they used to do here. Delta Connection Academy's whole pitch was "We're owned by Delta, so here's an interview with ASA/Comair/Chautauqua/Skywest/Eagle when you graduate (successful placement not guaranteed)!"

I've never said 250 is right, but 1500 sure as poo poo isn't either. I could've lived with 500/750/1000 or 750/1000/1250 for Bachelor's/Associate's/no degree, not approved, mom-and-pop FBO training to make it a bit more reasonable.

AWSEFT posted:

Funny thing to me about these college programs is they're so structured the students graduating (and qualifying for lower hiring minimums) have only flown to a handful of airports. That isn't real flying experience.

The 1500 rule helps with experience but the glaring mistake is that it doesn't require that you've flown into x number of airports or x number or types. You could earn all that time flying to from one airport dragging a banner but once you hit 1500 you're just as qualified as the 1500 hour guy driving a PC-12 around the country (in ice, heat, small strips, Class B airports, etc).

That's my concern. A few of our students are scoped out and get to do some right seat corporate flying with operators on the airport as they progress if they're deemed worthy (which occasionally leads them to 91 flying), but doing the CFI thing isn't going to put you into known icing or thunderstorms.

As for the airports, DCA had 2-3 pre-determined XCs for each required XC all the way through training and that was it. If one really wanted to make it easy at DAY during Private, they could go to Columbus on all three (Day dual- OSU, Night dual- CMH, Day solo- OSU again); if the visibility is decent enough, the skyline starts to appear about 5 minutes into the flight.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 4, 2018

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

AWSEFT posted:

Funny thing to me about these college programs is they're so structured the students graduating (and qualifying for lower hiring minimums) have only flown to a handful of airports. That isn't real flying experience.

The 1500 rule helps with experience but the glaring mistake is that it doesn't require that you've flown into x number of airports or x number or types. You could earn all that time flying to from one airport dragging a banner but once you hit 1500 you're just as qualified as the 1500 hour guy driving a PC-12 around the country (in ice, heat, small strips, Class B airports, etc).

Yeah, I agree with this.

I can't say I really have, or will soon have, much experience flying to different airports either, though. I mean, I've probably been to 12 different airports but they're all pretty much the same stuff. Luckily our base, CYBW, is busy as gently caress and located in a Class C control zone, so you certainly get a lot of experience dealing with busy airspace (my personal record being number 6 or 7 to land), but everything else is just the same dinky little uncontrolled strip in the middle of nowhere (or a slightly larger class D with limited commercial service).

CBJSprague24 posted:

I've never said 250 is right, but 1500 sure as poo poo isn't either. I could've lived with 500/750/1000 or 750/1000/1250 for Bachelor's/Associate's/no degree, not approved, mom-and-pop FBO training to make it a bit more reasonable.

I think 1500 is a fair minimum for an actual ATPL, with the proviso that it's ridiculous to require an ATPL for all co-pilots. Here, you can get a type rating to act as a co-pilot provided you've written the ATPL exams, or if you write the separate IATRA exam. You aren't going to get hired doing anything particularly glamorous, obviously, but a lower-end regional will consider you at maybe 500-800 hours these days.

What I'm concerned about is the students who feel like they will be ready for an airline gig at 300 hours. That indicates a dangerous lack of self-awareness. I'm over 400 now and I still don't know jack poo poo; one of our former instructors who's just now upgrading to captain at Georgian admitted he felt the same way even after he'd got his ATPL. Being a safe pilot means realizing you always have new stuff to learn.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

CBJSprague24 posted:

As for the airports, DCA had 2-3 pre-determined XCs for each required XC all the way through training and that was it. If one really wanted to make it easy at DAY during Private, they could go to Columbus on all three (Day dual- OSU, Night dual- CMH, Day solo- OSU again); if the visibility is decent enough, the skyline starts to appear about 5 minutes into the flight.

Is there a distance requirement in the US? We need to have a solo 150nm flight with full stop landings at at least two other airports, and then for the CPL a 300nm radius flight with three other full-stop landings beyond your departure point.

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

PT6A posted:

What I'm concerned about is the students who feel like they will be ready for an airline gig at 300 hours. That indicates a dangerous lack of self-awareness. I'm over 400 now and I still don't know jack poo poo; one of our former instructors who's just now upgrading to captain at Georgian admitted he felt the same way even after he'd got his ATPL. Being a safe pilot means realizing you always have new stuff to learn.

How many hours does the typical military transport pilot have when they hop in the right seat?

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