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Dukemont posted:do you support the military action taken against southern slave owners? i have some serious reservations about the plan being kicked around among Republican Abolitionists to mandate the freedom of black-skinned agricultural equipment in exchange for "fair market compensation" should the government also have the authority to unilaterally redistribute our land? our labor? our homes? our wives?
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 05:46 |
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(no, only the jarl of Valhalla DRO should have that authority, and we all have the right to duel him if we disagree)
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 05:49 |
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Caros posted:I'm going to break it down in a few hours when I get home, but I just want to point out the obvious. You're right. I meant to write "John Podesta's emails" but I conflated the effect the stolen emails had on Hillary's campaign with the actual person who they belonged to. I didn't type what I intended to. I'm not ill informed, I'm human and mistakes happen.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 05:52 |
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RealTalk posted:You're right. I meant to write "John Podesta's emails" but I conflated the effect the stolen emails had on Hillary's campaign with the actual person who they belonged to. Seriously I'm just asking for you to define a few terms. Quit dodging.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 05:55 |
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RealTalk posted:They know this because the speed with which the data was downloaded exceeded the capacity of any known internet connection. The data was downloaded onto a thumb drive by someone who had physical access to the servers that the data was stored on. Oh. It is dumb as hell.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:04 |
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Dukemont posted:do you support the military action taken against southern slave owners? Personally, I support the plan drafted by the abolitionist (and individualist anarchist) Lysander Spooner. A snippet: quote:We present to you herewith “A Plan for the Abolition of Slavery,” and solicit your aid to carry it into execution. The entire thing is worth reading: http://praxeology.net/LS-PAS.htm Lysander Spooner opposed Abraham Lincoln's waging of the Civil War. He saw the Republican Party as being hypocritical on the slavery issue. He understood that Lincoln did not fight the war to end slavery, he fought the war to preserve the Union. Therefore abolitionists like Spooner simultaneously defended the right of the States to secede from the Union while advocating an immediate end to the institution of slavery. Given the horrendous violence that was inflicted upon blacks after nominal emancipation, during Reconstruction and through the early part of the 20th century, it is dubious that a Civil War was the best method of emancipation. The late, great Lincoln historian Lerone Bennett Jr. did some tremendous historical work on Abraham Lincoln. He was interviewed on C-SPAN to discuss his book "Forced Into Glory". It's well worth watching: https://www.c-span.org/video/?158187-1/forced-glory
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:06 |
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Why does jrod always make assertions and then say "read this book" or "watch this video" instead of condensing and presenting the arguments himself?
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:11 |
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praxeology.net are you fuckin kidding me
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:15 |
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paragon1 posted:If we had internet forums in the 1850s RealTalk would be posting threads about the dangers of those extremist abolitionists, He'd just have paid for these to be distributed whenever an abolitionist was scheduled to speak:
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:16 |
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RealTalk posted:Personally, I support the plan drafted by the abolitionist (and individualist anarchist) Lysander Spooner. I’m not asking whether you agree with someone else’s plan for abolition, I’m asking if you support the military action taken against the southern slave-owners
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:17 |
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Polygynous posted:praxeology.net "I voted for Jill Stein" says Jrod as 3 Mises.org links fall out of his hands like limes out of the arms of that dude in that one picture. You know the one.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:19 |
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RealTalk posted:I would suspect that you would never overlook such rank "bigotry", regardless of the other merits of the person, or the fact that they would never impose their personal views on others. Further, you'd probably excoriate me for even associating with such a person even if I was only associating with them based on other areas where we agree. So you think minorities should attempt to play nice with people who might hate them, holy poo poo congratulations dude, you just invented the concept of "day-to-day life as a minority", never would've thought to do that before, certainly never been closeted at a job or anything like that, thanks for showing me the light you loving simpleton
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:22 |
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Babylon Astronaut posted:I looked this up, because it sounded dumb as hell. They said it was uploaded at 20mbps, a speed unheard of in these modern times. Then I went ahead and checked my own internet speed: Sorry, you're the dumb one. Citing an article in The Nation: "On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second. These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed." https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/ MegaBYTES are not the same as megaBITS. Your 100 mbps download speed is at the very high end of what's available in 2018, but you'd still only be able to download 11.92 megabytes in a second. The hack allegedly took place in 2016. And the hackers were in Russia. The internet speed that the Russian hackers would need to have to download the data in the time reported would be between 200 and 300 mbps. And this is a best case scenario. Hacking a computer system halfway around the globe, you are highly unlikely to be able to download the contents at your maximum potential speed. No Russian hacker would have been able to remotely hack the DNC server and download the contents at this speed in 2016.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:23 |
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libertarian thread 2018, your home for hot hillary's emails discussion
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:31 |
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RealTalk posted:After all this time, there has been no actual evidence produced to verify the core claims about collusion. https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:32 |
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Lol. "We shouldn't have prosecuted the war, just conspired to free and arm the slaves and have them destroy their masters and sieze their property." Don't get me wrong, it's a great plan and I support it. The only problem being that the plantation class was paranoid as gently caress and believed that Lincoln's election meant that that very thing was about to start happening, leading to the secession and forming of the Confederacy and thus the war. You moron.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:35 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:37 |
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https://www.cato.org/economic-freedom-world i hope we haven’t forgotten this little jrod episode
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:37 |
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my favorite part was page 4 https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/884789839522140166
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:46 |
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So why did they wait a month after registering their website to send it? How do we even know these two documents had the same custody chain? edit: actually, forget I asked. I really don't want to go down the rabbit hole of this nonsense. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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treasured8elief posted:my favorite part was page 4 https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/884789839522140166 gently caress, I missed the best bit.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:48 |
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Going back through the thread has paid off with forgotten gems:
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 06:51 |
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RealTalk posted:Sorry, you're the dumb one. Dude, this contention is so wrong to be approaching flat earth or time cube. Gigabit and faster services have been commercially available for a long time.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:03 |
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did jrod gently caress a watermelon? we may never know.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:06 |
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Lol, he got perma'd while I was in the movie? The gently caress did you guys do?
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:08 |
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Polygynous posted:
Good night, sweet prince
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:09 |
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RIP. Rest In Permaban.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:11 |
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Caros posted:Lol, he got perma'd while I was in the movie? The gently caress did you guys do? The topic turned to the civil war and he quite plainly outed himself I knew he couldn’t resist the bait
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:14 |
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i think the first day he started posting his identity was confirmed figured it would be fun to watch him dig his own grave
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:16 |
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I am glad I was here with all of you, thread. Here at the end of Jrodefeld 2: RealTalk Harder.
Live and Let Die 2020
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:21 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:22 |
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R. Guyovich posted:i think the first day he started posting his identity was confirmed Fair enough. I'm a little sad he credit card frauded, because he survived a long time posting in this thread. It was only when he started making GBS threads up other threads that he became a problem and got the ban that earned him his perma. Could we let him keep posting under condition that he remains in the quarantine zone? He is like a fun retarded puppy. Dwarf fortress definition of fun, but still.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:25 |
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Polygynous posted:
WampaLord posted:Good night, sweet prince Ratoslov posted:RIP. Rest In Permaban. Grace Baiting posted:I am glad I was here with all of you, thread. Here at the end of Jrodefeld 2: RealTalk Harder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSz16ngdsG0
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:49 |
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Caros posted:Could we let him keep posting under condition that he remains in the quarantine zone? He is like a fun retarded puppy. Apparently the string and bubblegum that these dead gay forums run on no longer supports training people to specific threads. It's why idiot pissbabby zaurg still has free run of BFC instead of being confined to his trainwreck () of a thread.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 07:56 |
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Weatherman posted:Apparently the string and bubblegum that these dead gay forums run on no longer supports training people to specific threads. It's why idiot pissbabby zaurg still has free run of BFC instead of being confined to his trainwreck () of a thread. Wah wah. Well, thanks for another I guess.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 08:08 |
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R. Guyovich posted:i think the first day he started posting his identity was confirmed
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 09:42 |
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Babylon Astronaut posted:I can't be the only one comforted by there only being one jrod. Well, 2, counting the cybernetic one. I'm a little sad, tbh. I checked in on him every so often with a google to see how he was doing, and there has been less and less of him over time, with most of his comments being along the line of "Why is Walter Block leading a libertarians for trump movement, that isn't very libertarian." He looked like he was getting better, or at least not getting worse. Then he shows up here and well, full retard. Edit: He even voted for Jill Stein. He voted this time, guys! Caros fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jun 3, 2018 |
# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:03 |
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the thing where a post begins with "I want to talk about X right now." is a dead giveaway
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 10:39 |
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I should have never doubted in Jrod.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 11:12 |
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RealTalk posted:Are you familiar with the work of Ray McGovern and Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity? Forensic evidence of the big event (theft of Hillary Clinton's emails) prove that it wasn't a hack, it was a leak by an insider. They know this because the speed with which the data was downloaded exceeded the capacity of any known internet connection. The data was downloaded onto a thumb drive by someone who had physical access to the servers that the data was stored on. While it is a little late to talk about this, I really do feel like pointing out how hilarious this whole post is, if only for posterity. Who knows, perhaps Jrod is looking down on us from with tears in his eyes. Either way. The first and most hilarious part, is of course, the bandwidth bullshit that I bolded above. If you don't know what he's talking about, allow me to enlighten you. The claim Jrod is making here originated in a report summarized by The Nation. Now, if you'll follow that link, (or if you don't) you'll note that the very top of the article now has this wonderful disclaimer: quote:Editor’s note, 9/1/2017: For more than 150 years, The Nation has been committed to fearless, independent journalism. We have a long history of seeking alternative views and taking unpopular stances. We believe it is important to challenge questionable conventional wisdom and to foster debate—not police it. Focusing on unreported or inadequately reported issues of major importance and raising questions that are not being asked have always been a central part of our work. So, in short, they published an article that made serious claims about the veracity of the DNC leak, despite the fact that anyone who looked at it with editorial zeal would have to admit that there were numerous alternate explanations, and in addition, They failed to mention that there was serious internal dispute amongst VIPS itself as to their assessment. So that sure is convincing. But yeah, back to the claims. The VIPS claim is, as Jrod said, that the DNC hack could not have been possible as suggested by the ICA assessment. The claim is that that the volume of the hacked material and that at 22.7 megabytes/second it simply was not possible in 2016 to accomplish a hack at that speed from a normal household internet connection. This does appear to largely be correct. But, before we continue, I think a few important facts need to be established. The first, and most important, is where this information is coming from. In this case, it comes from an anonymous source named, and I poo poo you not, Forensicator. I guess The Forensicator would have been too on the nose. This doesn't really have any bearing, I just want to let people know that the information Jrod is using comes from Forensicator. Anyways, there are a ton of issues with Forensicator's claims. Rather than type them all out in a poor summary, lets let someone else do it. quote:Background: This document provides an independent technical review of statements made in Patrick Lawrence’s article “A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack” that appeared on The Nation on August 9, 2017. Claims made in the article were built upon a digital forensic analysis published by a pseudonymous researcher named “the Forensicator” and a memo published by the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS). In addition, related to documents provided by “Guccifer 2.0,” there was also a review of information provided by Adam Carter. The focus of the Forensicator’s analysis was on the NGP/VAN file archive, distributed by WikiLeaks, in relation to security compromises of computing resources managed by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in 2016. So yeah. As usual, Jrodefeld saw a headline that he liked, that the DNC hack wasn't 'real', and bit down hard on the evidence provided, even though that evidence was created by someone named Forensicator and missed a half dozen likely methods through which the thief could have accomplished his goals. Also, those two consortium links are pro-clicks if you are in the mood for level of crazy
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