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Nah, 3's endgame is indeed grade-A horseshit. Now if we were talking the DS version instead...haha you would not have played that far in that absurd piece of garbage. And if, yes, it would be worse.
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Barudak posted:That and having a character who withholds information being seen doing it very selectively among the group and over cluing in the player versus other characters when it was necessary.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:05
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Simply Simon posted:Nah, 3's endgame is indeed grade-A horseshit. Uh, wasn't the original FF3 like an NES game that never got released here? I thought the version everyone played was the DS one.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:06
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Excels posted:Uh, wasn't the original FF3 like an NES game that never got released here? I thought the version everyone played was the DS one. EDIT: Basically any excuse to poo poo on FFIIIDS.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:07
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Momomo posted:Yeah, I liked that Auron wasn't really hiding all that much during the story. The only really important thing I can think of was that he was dead, everything else he either tells you or is obvious (having to use a guardian for the final summon, for instance). Plus it helps clue the player in on whats going on with Tidus when somehow a dead dude was able to spend 15 years in Tidus's life. Auron is awesome.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:10
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Barudak posted:Auron is awesome. /thread
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Mar 13, 2014 21:11
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Excels posted:/thread FFX-3 should just be a Bayonetta style action game where you play as Auron.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:12
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Both versions of FF3's end game are pretty bad, but DS's game balance is pretty off at times, where the game over-compensates for the three-enemy limit by buffing the enemies to crazy levels, while a lot of jobs were nerfed in favor of balance in a game built around directly upgrading jobs. The NES one still doesn't have save points and it's still easily possible to wipe if you're unprepared and end up having to do a lot of content over, but at least once you get Sages you pretty much never have to worry about MP again since they have an insane amount and get all forms of magic (including the superior version of summons). I personally like FF3 NES's end game because I'm insane (and because the music's great), but it does have a lot of bullshit that I'm surprised they never bothered to fix in the later versions, like the lack of save points in long dungeons, or the point of no return where you can accidentally fight an unbeatable boss. FF3 DS still boggles my mind with its design decisions.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:14
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I'm replaying FFX in the HD collection and the one thing that stands out to me having not played it for a while is goddamn is the opening badly paced. As bad as FFXIII's was at least you were going straight forward to a specific goal. They could have cut the entire 'Tidus looks for firewood' segment and lost absolutely nothing for example. It gets better once you get to the first Sin boss fight but man does that take a while. FFX-2's opening is breakneck in comparison.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:19
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ImpAtom posted:I'm replaying FFX in the HD collection and the one thing that stands out to me having not played it for a while is goddamn is the opening badly paced. As bad as FFXIII's was at least you were going straight forward to a specific goal. They could have cut the entire 'Tidus looks for firewood' segment and lost absolutely nothing for example. It gets better once you get to the first Sin boss fight but man does that take a while. FFX-2's opening is breakneck in comparison. They should have just started FFX immediately at sin destroying the city during the blitzball game and gone from there, no flashbacks necessary.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:21
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I was playing the GBA 2 and the DS 3. I'm just glad that they're both over. Time for 4...I might skip After Years because I finally tracked down a copy of 5 for the GBA at a hole in the wall video store, and I want to get to it.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:22
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After Years isn't very good anyway, so it's not like you're missing much. Though it does have a cool subplot involving Rubicante and Edge.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:25
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There is so much porn of grown-up Rydia for some reason.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:26
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Excels posted:There is so much porn of grown-up Rydia for some reason. Take away the positive that every-time they decide to draw grown-up Rydia, they aren't drawing child Rydia.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:28
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Excels posted:There is so much porn of grown-up Rydia for some reason.
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Endorph posted:Thanks for sharing. You're welcome. As a further point, most of it involves Edge.
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Excels posted:There is so much porn of Fake edit: I do not believe I've ever gotten to the first boss of FF3 DS. My brother couldn't either, back when he tried it. I should probably just sell it.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:41
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ImpAtom posted:I'm replaying FFX in the HD collection and the one thing that stands out to me having not played it for a while is goddamn is the opening badly paced. As bad as FFXIII's was at least you were going straight forward to a specific goal. They could have cut the entire 'Tidus looks for firewood' segment and lost absolutely nothing for example. It gets better once you get to the first Sin boss fight but man does that take a while. FFX-2's opening is breakneck in comparison. I used to have a save at the start of Besaid, which is where the game picks up. Zanarkand opening is cool but after that it's tedious as hell.
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LordHippoman posted:I was playing the GBA 2 and the DS 3. I'm just glad that they're both over. Time for 4...I might skip After Years because I finally tracked down a copy of 5 for the GBA at a hole in the wall video store, and I want to get to it. I'm doing the exact same thing as you right now (playing all of them), and am just about at the end of FF4:TAY. I'd say skip TAY altogether and just do the main FF4. Like someone said earlier, the stories are mostly a rehash of FF4. After doing each character story's challenge dungeon I almost don't have the motivation to finish the final story (The Crystals). I'm so sick of Cait Sith types and their dumb Blaster move. On a good note, having done all the challenge dungeons my characters are really powerful to the point where I accidentally killed some Eidolons instead of waking them up. I don't plan on using Rydia anyway, I like Palom & Porom for my mages.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:54
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Excels posted:You're welcome. As a further point, most of it involves Edge.
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Mar 13, 2014 21:56
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Endorph posted:Former WWE Champion Adam 'Edge' Copeland?
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Endorph posted:Former WWE Champion Adam 'Edge' Copeland? With a name like Sexton Hardcastle who else could it be?
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Barudak posted:Auron is awesome. 
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X is another FF that's fun to break.
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Excels posted:You're welcome. As a further point, most of it involves Edge. ...well, yeah? Edge hits on adult Rydia at multiple points, and they're about the only cast members that don't have a clear love interest by the end of the game. Who would you think it would involve?
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FFX's post game consumed me. If everyone in the world put in 200 hours in Skyrim or Morrowind or whatever, then my Skyrim was Final Fantasy X. I did blitzball. I mean, I owned blitzball. I consumed that poo poo. I broke it down. I conscripted all the guys. Chocobo races? Dodged all them balls man. I beat all the bonus bosses, all the secret dungeons, I ransacked the sphere grid...it was the first time my game time ever broke three digits and even then I could barely beat just a handful of the Original Creations, and I couldn't dodge the lightning bolts for poo poo either. To think of even remotely attempting that again...it makes me winded.
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MarsDragon posted:...well, yeah? Edge hits on adult Rydia at multiple points, and they're about the only cast members that don't have a clear love interest by the end of the game. Who would you think it would involve? Octomammoth?
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MarsDragon posted:...well, yeah? Edge hits on adult Rydia at multiple points, and they're about the only cast members that don't have a clear love interest by the end of the game. Who would you think it would involve? to be honest i completely forgot most of ffiv's plot immediately after finishing it.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:and I couldn't dodge the lightning bolts for poo poo either. This reminded me, FFX came out at a time when I went to a boarding high school, and for some reason I was the only one who was any good at the lightning bolt dodging, so I know I ended up doing it for at least a couple friends in addition to completing it on my own file.
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S-Alpha posted:Isn't that the one with the copious swearing in basically every other line? Or the stupid honorifics everywhere? Or randomly untranslated words? Not all translations are bad. The Super Famicom Dragon Quest 3,5,6 english patches were solid and don't have terrible forced accents like in DQ4's DS remake. Simply Simon posted:Yeah, I guess "the one I have" indicates that he owns it, my bad. I never played 3NES, but I know that there's a fan translation and, you know, emulators. Not even save state and frame skip makes FF3 worth playing. Even when you do the memory trick to get a shitload of items early on it's still the worst of all FF games. Even FF2 is better, especially the iOS version.
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Still trucking through Bravely Default and it rules. Yeah, it's technically not Final Fantasy but it's only missing Chocobos and Moogles basically so, eh, gently caress it. All the spells are the same, and it even has Doomtrain. Anyway, guessing everybody in the thread has it already probably, but there is no reason to subject yourself to things like FF3DS when Bravely Default exists.Barudak posted:FFX-3 should just be a Bayonetta style action game where you play as Auron. Also there should be an EDF style game where you are the Crusaders and have to fight off Sin and a fuckton of Sinspawn. Every game should have an EDF style spinoff.
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Krad posted:My favourite VII mod is the one that makes everything look like Advent Children and lets you play the game on your PS3. Sadly, I don't think it'll ever be released by now. They took the time and cost of making that three-minute tech demo, multiplied it by the length of the game, then threw their hands up in the air and shouted "It's impossible! It'd take 10 years to make! Let's develop a new game instead". Then work began on Final Fantasy Versus XIII.
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That loving Sned posted:Then work began on Final Fantasy Versus XIII. Don't lie.
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Nihilarian posted:Edge Maverick? Excuse me, his name is EDGE MAVERICK.
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Barudak posted:Auron is awesome. http://youtu.be/VqCAhsWVH_g?t=18s When I played FFXII for the first time people said how great it was that Vaan was openly mocked at several times nd his obnoxiousness was treated as such. And while it's true Tidus gets away with being an annoying twit a lot of the time, Auron laughing in his face is the best thing in the whole drat game so I don't care.
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:This reminded me, FFX came out at a time when I went to a boarding high school, and for some reason I was the only one who was any good at the lightning bolt dodging, so I know I ended up doing it for at least a couple friends in addition to completing it on my own file. One of my friends was having such a hard time with the lightning dodge mini-game and asked for my help. That's when I found out she was trying it without 'No encounters.' We got the the Venus Sigil in about twenty minutes.
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Sunning posted:One of my friends was having such a hard time with the lightning dodge mini-game and asked for my help. That's when I found out she was trying it without 'No encounters.' We got the the Venus Sigil in about twenty minutes. I did it without No Encounters because I felt like it was cheating. I was stupid sometimes. 
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:This reminded me, FFX came out at a time when I went to a boarding high school, and for some reason I was the only one who was any good at the lightning bolt dodging, so I know I ended up doing it for at least a couple friends in addition to completing it on my own file.  Well, I wasn't good at dodging lightning bolts, but I was a freshman and therefore had the least seniority. If I wanted my turn playing FFX, it was as one of the upperclassmen's monster farming bitch. But oh man, I wanted to play FFX so badly that I didn't mind.
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I'm at the end of FFX again. For some reason, I don't mind just killing dudes and cruisin the sphere grid. Kinda fun to see your characters (needlessly) get more powerful and get weird abilities and stuff. I forgot how tedious some of it is though. The sidequests. Dodging lightning. Getting rare materials to craft up awesome armor, even if you bribe and do everything you can to get them faster. Jesus.
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NikkolasKing posted:http://youtu.be/VqCAhsWVH_g?t=18s I forgot how good Auron's VA was in a game full of Edit: I actually really think Tidus' voice actor is a great fit for his character. Yuna was my only really big complaint other than the HA HA HA scene.
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