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Spiritus Nox posted:Wait it does? quote:Meaning "undercover agent" is attested from 1942. The derogatory racial sense of "black person" is attested from 1940s, perhaps from notion of dark skin being difficult to see at night. Black pilots trained at Tuskegee Institute during World War II called themselves the Spookwaffe.
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Uh, yikes. I'll back off of that one, then.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:13
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The more this whole thing goes on the more I think about Al Capone. He committed some insane crimes, including being a literal mob boss, but was ultimately convicted of the relatively boring and kinda lame crime of tax evasion. I wonder if Donnie might go down in a similar way.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Wait it does? Yes it does. Also calling these people "spooks" even in a spy sense is hyperbolic anyway, we're talking about intelligence professionals. Most likely people in signals intelligence. Meaning that they spend the majority of their time staring at a computer screens in a cubicle not skulking around in the shadows. Personally I'm reassured that there are people in those positions.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:18
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FuturePastNow posted:Republicans in Congress are (almost) entirely on board in public. In private a lot of them, at least the ones who aren't in R+10 districts, are panicking. evilweasel posted:It caused a spate of damaging leaks, lead directly to the appointment of a special prosecutor, and led to Comey testifying publicly and numerous Republicans saying they believed him. It was definitely not a good move and made everything worse for Trump.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:20
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Sinteres posted:Imagine how many unbelievable things we know about Nixon because he was crazy enough to tape himself saying everything, and how long it took for many of those tapes to come out. Assuming Trump's lying about taping Comey, there's going to be crazy poo poo we'll never know about even if he does go down in flames. There are plenty of people who are taking notes nightly, I'm sure. The best-case scenario is that they all write memoirs that the Socialist Republic of the Americas makes free to everyone thanks to its post-scarcity replication technology.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:22
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Spiritus Nox posted:Uh, yikes. I'll back off of that one, then. Over the years there has been a frankly dizzying array of slurs dedicated to black people. It's like, holy gently caress people, surely you can get by with three or four. Maaaaybe five.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:24
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Just a reminder that Trump hates that any of his people are being questioned or brought to testify or be scrutinized. Trump thought that being President meant that all the bad stuff happens to other people, not him. He was probably expecting to get Hillary on trial by now but all of his shady poo poo keeps getting in the way. He probably believed that Obama was able to get away with being not being "American" and being bought out by Soros and thought, "well poo poo, if he can do it then I can do whatever." Trump believes that he is supposed to be able to get away with this poo poo.
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nachos posted:So June 20 is the GA-06 election but the SC election for Mulvaney's old seat is happening the same day. I haven't heard poo poo about this race or seen any polls so I'm guessing it's a lost cause? Not looking good  The Democrats nominated Goldman Sachs lol quote:Archie Parnell of Sumter, a senior adviser at Goldman Sachs, will announce his candidacy in the 5th District’s special election Tuesday, sources said Friday. E: Although looking at his website he openly calls Wall Street a gambling house filled with criminals so maybe he ain't so bad, idk what his campaign looks like though I'm not from South Carolina quote:Archie strongly supports the consumer protection laws put in place after the Great Recession, which help ensure that Wall Street does not gamble away our money. Archie will stand up to the unfair lending practices that can turn a $50 loan into thousands of dollars of debt and bankruptcy, a system that particularly affects the men and women of the armed services and their families, and will fight against criminals in the banking industry who undermine our financial system in the pursuit of trillion-dollar profits. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:Just a reminder that Trump hates that any of his people are being questioned or brought to testify or be scrutinized. Trump thought that being President meant that all the bad stuff happens to other people, not him. He was probably expecting to get Hillary on trial by now but all of his shady poo poo keeps getting in the way. Well, that and in his own hosed up sphere of the world he has normally gotten away with shady poo poo. I don't think he had even an inkling of what kind of microscope he was going to be put under. And he's like, jamming every button possible in some weird panicky/angry fugue state.
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So my prediction that John McCain would do the right thing when push came to shove may be changing. https://twitter.com/swin24/status/874437612135739393
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Spiritus Nox posted:Uh, yikes. I'll back off of that one, then. It's cool, you felt like I did when you find out. And still do whenever I go "Wait, THAT'S a slur too?" Oxxidation posted:Over the years there has been a frankly dizzying array of slurs dedicated to black people. It's like, holy gently caress people, surely you can get by with three or four. Maaaaybe five. They had to keep coming up with new ones as the rest of society started to progress. We're probably just seeing part of the history of whistle blower terms going full racist.
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VitalSigns posted:Not looking good Wasn't Gravis off by like huge margins to the point where 538 won't bother with them?
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Jun 13, 2017 02:32
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VitalSigns posted:Not looking good You're going to get a lot of Goldman or other random rich people in hopeless districts because they're the only ones who will waste the money on the campaign (primary, and general).
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enraged_camel posted:The more this whole thing goes on the more I think about Al Capone. He committed some insane crimes, including being a literal mob boss, but was ultimately convicted of the relatively boring and kinda lame crime of tax evasion. One of my many theories is that instead of a stated quid pro quo, they came across the complicated financial backing of the Trump organizations, as well as Kushner etc. If Kushner is given financing by a Russian state bank for his overextended investments, is that not in effect a gift? This might be what they are sifting through, as well as sifting through shell corporations and the like.
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Sinteres posted:So my prediction that John McCain would do the right thing when push came to shove may be changing. Similar to what Comey and Bharara described. He's probably pursued these kinds of relationships with a lot of people.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:35
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Trabisnikof posted:Spookwaffe "That is our word, and it's rad as gently caress!"
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Low Desert Punk posted:God, what I would give to be a fly on the wall when people are trying to talk sense into Trump. If people thought Game Change was a fascinating look behind the curtain, the books that are going to be written by people from the Trump administration are going to be the most insane thing ever.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't Gravis off by like huge margins to the point where 538 won't bother with them? I don't know, maybe? Fivethirtyeight's pollster rating list doesn't show anything like that but maybe they wrote about it somewhere else. 
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VitalSigns posted:I don't know, maybe? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/28/1520916/-Morning-Digest-This-is-the-worst-polling-debacle-we-ve-ever-seen-by-a-huge-margin This was the one I was thinking about. quote:Forget any clever ledes—we're just going to give this one to you right up front: Republican pollster Gravis Marketing blew a race by 96 points on Tuesday night. Yep, 96 points. It's by far—by far—the biggest polling disaster we've ever seen, so let's talk about it a little.
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Jun 13, 2017 02:38
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Chilichimp posted:"That is our word, and it's rad as gently caress!" Probably, most likely, definitely a fleet or department name for Goonwaffe in Eve Online.
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Skex posted:Yes it does. In the intelligence sense, a "spook" is a literal spy, not an intelligence analyst. Sure, the focus of spy agencies is more signals intel these days, but that doesn't mean we've dropped out of the humint game entirely.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And Trump ordered a stop to all investigations of right wing terror groups So, wait, hang on You, HA, are on the brink of "gently caress it, we're in a fascist hellscape"?
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Jun 13, 2017 02:39
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I'm still not sure if I think a Mueller firing would be a net positive, but I like that the idea got Rick Wilson all fired up. https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/874435986306027520
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evilweasel posted:You're going to get a lot of Goldman or other random rich people in hopeless districts because they're the only ones who will waste the money on the campaign (primary, and general). SC-05 is, at least demographically, far better for democrats than GA-06. 28% black population, average income of 41k, 51% female. Compare that to about 14%, 72k, and 49%. What am I missing about this district?
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I'm still not sure if I think a Mueller firing would be a net positive, but I like that the idea got Rick Wilson all fired up. Just saw that tweetstorm. Rick Wilson is another entertaining follow similar to David Frum who will become much less entertaining after Trump is gone.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I'm still not sure if I think a Mueller firing would be a net positive, but I like that the idea got Rick Wilson all fired up.
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Is "clickservative" equivalent to "hacktivist"? e: or rather, "slackivist"?
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nachos posted:SC-05 is, at least demographically, far better for democrats than GA-06. 28% black population, average income of 41k, 51% female. Compare that to about 14%, 72k, and 49%. What am I missing about this district? GA-06 is vulnerable due to demographic shifts (upper middle class white people loathe trump but used to be fairly republican).
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VitalSigns posted:I don't know, maybe? This is kinda cool. What was the group that trump tweeted about that said he had some really high approval rating?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:So, wait, hang on Well, let's see what happens with Mueller, but at this point Mueller's investigation seems like the last domino.
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glowing-fish posted:One of my many theories is that instead of a stated quid pro quo, they came across the complicated financial backing of the Trump organizations, as well as Kushner etc. If Kushner is given financing by a Russian state bank for his overextended investments, is that not in effect a gift? This might be what they are sifting through, as well as sifting through shell corporations and the like. If Kushner was given financing for his overextended investments, it might constitute a gift... for Kushner. I don't think the Enoulments Clause applies to him. Although it would make Trump bad by proxy. Like, does Kushner even have an official job in the federal government? I thought he was just some kind of unofficial "senior adviser" to Trump.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I almost miss neoconservatives Whatever your feelings on Christopher Hitchens, his response to Trump as president would have been spectacular. 
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buglord posted:This is kinda cool. What was the group that trump tweeted about that said he had some really high approval rating? Rasmussen, for a certain definition of "really high" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/867834190078906370 fivethirtyeight adjusts Rasmussen's approval down 5 points, it has a notable Republican lean
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Well, let's see what happens with Mueller, but at this point Mueller's investigation seems like the last domino. I don't entirely agree, but I am very slightly more nervous than I was before, because one more voice of reason may slip into hysterical laughter and screaming. And I don't know exactly how far I am from that same cliff edge.
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I just say it with me thread e-mol-u-ment
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Winkle-Daddy posted:Whatever your feelings on Christopher Hitchens, his response to Trump as president would have been spectacular. He easily could have had a lot of bad takes about how either candidate was equally bad last year. He loving hated the Clintons.
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VitalSigns posted:Rasmussen, for a certain definition of "really high" I hope he keeps making this tweet with lower and lower numbers.
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Winkle-Daddy posted:Whatever your feelings on Christopher Hitchens, his response to Trump as president would have been spectacular. His takes on the Christian Right rolling over for a non-religious, philandering rear end in a top hat would have been epic.
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If Kojima made MGS4 now, he'd have Snake told about the takes economy instead of the war economy.
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