A Man With A Plan posted:

FYI everyone Trump does actually have a florida office, not sure where that rumor got started. I remember an article saying that calls to their Florida office went unanswered during the convention, implying they had virtually no staff, but I'm pretty sure they've had an office for a while.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/florida

e: on a quick google I see references to the address and trump as far back as january

smg77 posted:

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/759916266144473089

Mike Pence really wants to be shadow president.

smg77 posted:

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/759916266144473089

Mike Pence really wants to be shadow president.

Ice Phisherman posted:

Which one?

Castomira posted:

Why does somebody on my Facebook news feed seem absolutely convinced Mitt Romney is going to endorse Gary Johnson? Is that a libertarian fever-dream, or something actual grown-ups have speculated has a nonzero chance of happening?

Bunleigh posted:

Utah.

smg77 posted:

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/759916266144473089

Mike Pence really wants to be shadow president.

Ice Phisherman posted:

That's what I was thinking, but isn't Utah a deep, deep red state? I checked 538 and despite Silver trying his hand and failing at being a talking head a while back it's only clocked at a 7% chance of winning for Hillary. How exactly would Romney increase her chances enough to matter?

A Man With A Plan posted:

FYI everyone Trump does actually have a florida office, not sure where that rumor got started. I remember an article saying that calls to their Florida office went unanswered during the convention, implying they had virtually no staff, but I'm pretty sure they've had an office for a while.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/florida

e: on a quick google I see references to the address and trump as far back as january

Positions - Donald J Trump posted:

PAY FOR THE WALL - It's an easy decision for Mexico. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall.

quote:

Compelling Mexico to Pay for the Wall

Introduction: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 - the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:

* On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31 CFR 130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.

* On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico.

* On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.

* Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from any tariffs themselves. Mexico needs access to our markets much more than the reverse, so we have all the leverage and will win the negotiation. By definition, if you have a large trade deficit with a nation, it means they are selling far more to you than the reverse - thus they, not you, stand to lose from enforcing trade rules through tariffs (as has been done to save many U.S. industries in the past).

* Cancelling visas: Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Mexico is totally dependent on the United States as a release valve for its own poverty - our approvals of hundreds of thousands of visas to their nationals every year is one of our greatest leverage points. We also have leverage through business and tourist visas for important people in the Mexican economy. Keep in mind, the United States has already taken in 4X more migrants than any other country on planet earth, producing lower wages and higher unemployment for our own citizens and recent migrants.

* Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall. This includes fees on border crossing cards, of which more than 1 million are issued a year. The border-crossing card is also one of the greatest sources of illegal immigration into the United States, via overstays. Mexico is also the single largest recipient of U.S. green cards, which confer a path to U.S. citizenship. Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.

Conclusion: Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States. The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity, including the cost of trials and incarcerations. Not to mention the even greater human cost. We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.

Ice Phisherman posted:

That's what I was thinking, but isn't Utah a deep, deep red state? I checked 538 and despite Silver trying his hand and failing at being a talking head a while back it's only clocked at a 7% chance of winning for Hillary. How exactly would Romney increase her chances enough to matter?

SSNeoman posted:

Meh. I've seen worse. Like that Tammy Duckworth tweet and the follow-up non-apology

Lightning Knight posted:

Ice Phisherman posted:

That's what I was thinking, but isn't Utah a deep, deep red state? I checked 538 and despite Silver trying his hand and failing at being a talking head a while back it's only clocked at a 7% chance of winning for Hillary. How exactly would Romney increase her chances enough to matter?

Bunleigh posted:

He wouldn't. He could maybe help Gary Johnson take it.

Pakled posted:

"due to the disastrous decisions of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, a once stable Middle East has now been overrun by ISIS"

lol neither of them were even old enough to vote the last time the Middle East was remotely stable

Lightning Knight posted:

Robo Captain posted:

I'm pretty skeptical about the idea that a wall along the entire border will only cost 10 billion.

Lightning Knight posted:

I mean, I'm legitimately shocked they didn't unironically put forward the idea that guy on Freep had a few years back to just dump a few million tires on the border and create a pest and waste infested toxic dump no one could cross and which would spread death and disease like nobody's business.

Robo Captain posted:

I'm pretty skeptical about the idea that a wall along the entire border will only cost 10 billion.

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

If Trump's Florida campaign HQ is set up like his Illinois one, then the number is based out of New York and the message tells you to email the campaign.

To volunteer: volunteer@donaldjtrump.com

To give advice to Donald: info@donaldjtrump.com

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

To give advice to Donald: info@donaldjtrump.com

Epic High Five posted:

You're forgetting the key part of that plan - the tire-filled trench was to be 10 yards wide and on fire, likely in response to somebody asking why they couldn't just walk over the tires

smg77 posted:

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/759916266144473089

Mike Pence really wants to be shadow president.

ImpAtom posted:

So am I incorrect or didn't Humayun Khan die in 2004?

A Man With A Plan posted:

FYI everyone Trump does actually have a florida office, not sure where that rumor got started. I remember an article saying that calls to their Florida office went unanswered during the convention, implying they had virtually no staff, but I'm pretty sure they've had an office for a while.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/florida

e: on a quick google I see references to the address and trump as far back as january

acejackson42 posted:

From what I understand, Mormons hate Trump with a burning passion. Romney might be able to push some of them Hillary's direction with his condemnation of Trump, but in the end I think it's going to come down to the same reason a lot of the people are going to vote for Hillary -- the Supreme Court.

As horrific as a Trump presidency would be for liberal progression in the SCOTUS, it's the equal for conservative and religious regression if Hillary becomes president. I imagine the Mormons were apoplectic when the whole gay marriage thing went through, and further positive steps in that direction with other social issues would do the same. So they hold their nose and vote for Trump because otherwise their lovely way of life will get more and more marginalized.

Gyges posted:

Yes, Trump had an office for the primary. Notice that the link you gave goes to a page still touting the primary election date with the voting hours.

After the primary the office was abandoned and in June when someone went to the door to see if anyone was there, all that was there was a note on the door promising they'd be back after the convention.



Trump is a loving idiot who closed his only office in Florida because he doesn't have enough staff in the whole country to hold a convention without closing offices. He has one loving office in Florida, and it's in Sarasota of all the loving places. If you're only going to have one office in the Florida as a Republican, you're probably going to want it in one of the very few largish cities in the nation that's Republican dominated, Jacksonville. Especially since that city is pretty much what keeps Republicans in statewide power due to being the only place with enough votes to counter South Florida.


I'm actually interested to see how Tim Kaine plays in Utah. He's got that geegolly niceness down pat.

Dirt posted:

It's the medias fault guys.

Dirt posted:

It's the medias fault guys.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Trumps repetitive gimmicks on Twitter are just getting so tired.

Lightning Knight posted:

He did. Hm. It seems we can't recall who was President then. Funny. Must've been Obama. Maybe Bill.

Why were we in Iraq again? God I just can't seem to recall.

quote:

The important thing is Hillary Clinton voted for the war, Bush who exactly?