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The comical loser robot is literally the first POV character in the saga. e: I just realized that although I meant that the beginning of ANH is told from the droids' perspective, 3PO also gets the first actual POV shot in TPM. It's almost like these things have some sort of meaning. Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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jivjov posted:Finn at least has some degree of attraction toward Rey. Listen to the jealousy in his voice when he asks if she has a "cute boyfriend" back on Jakku. yeah he's jealous about the cute boyfriend but thats not because he's attracted to rey, pal.
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Oct 3, 2016 15:58
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Serf posted:What movie did this dude watch? Finn obviously has a crush on Rey, Kylo Ren has a real creepy vibe towards her in the interrogation scene, and who could forget Chewie hitting on the space medic?
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Oct 3, 2016 16:15
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temple posted:Creepy rape vibes, something I relate to. Great addition to the Star Wars universe. It's not a new thing: 
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Oct 3, 2016 16:19
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Equeen posted:It's not a new thing:
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Oct 3, 2016 16:32
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temple posted:That doesn't evoke the same image as Ren sexually threatening a woman in a torture chair with mind powers but you can have it. I'm not denying the nasty implications of the interrogation scene, but I find it a bit more troubling that the only major female OT character was captured as a literal sex slave.
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I imagine Kylo's mind-grasp is just like when Avon Barksdale has mind-battles with Anderson in the new Dredd movie.
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Oct 3, 2016 16:52
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Corek posted:Let's check in with how the RLM fanbase is reacting They're just mad that the only main white character they can cling to is BB-8.
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Corek posted:Let's check in with how the RLM fanbase is reacting 
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Equeen posted:They're just mad that the only main white character they can cling to is BB-8. little white CUCK BALL
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I'm not surprised that the review doesn't focus on TFA that much and instead derails towards Abrams, Listicles, Ring Theory, and fandom. Anyone who's even halfheartedly checked in on RLM material could tell you that Mike loved TFA, and with only 1/3rd of the NT available it was always going to have less focused than the reviews of the fully finished PT.
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Corek posted:Let's check in with how the RLM fanbase is reacting 
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Equeen posted:I'm not denying the nasty implications of the interrogation scene, but I find it a bit more troubling that the only major female OT character was captured as a literal sex slave.  Rey is asexual and most of the characters are outside of Finn's boyfriend line and Ren's rape stare. I tried to ignored that Ren scene because it was just a perspective not supported by anything else. But imo he's looks rapey as all hell. 
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temple posted:Creepy rape vibes, something I relate to. Great addition to the Star Wars universe. Addition? Vader's interrogation of Leia in ANH is about as rapey as you can get.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:10
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Corek posted:Let's check in with how the RLM fanbase is reacting Fix your Cleartype, jeez.
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Neurolimal posted:I'm not surprised that the review doesn't focus on TFA that much and instead derails towards Abrams, Listicles, Ring Theory, and fandom. Anyone who's even halfheartedly checked in on RLM material could tell you that Mike loved TFA, and with only 1/3rd of the NT available it was always going to have less focused than the reviews of the fully finished PT. Because there's not a lot to talk about with regards to TFA. It's a fine movie, entertaining, there's nothing really to discuss about it. The prequels were a lot more polarizing. Some people like them, some people hate them, there's a lot to talk about. They're interesting movies even if you don't like them. Like midichlorians, Jar Jar Binks, all that weird cultish poo poo with the Jedi: even if you think those things are terrible, they're at least terrible in a baffling "What was George thinking?" kind of way. The Force Awakens is competent and entertaining, and actually has a few bits of genuine goodness (the characters), but it also feels a bit by-the-numbers. Millenium Falcon, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Princess Leia, stormtroopers, another Death Star type thing, the Empire. The prequels were Lucas doing his own thing; TFA is more design-by-committee. Hopefully that'll change in future movies, but who knows.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Addition? Vader's interrogation of Leia in ANH is about as rapey as you can get.
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Blue Star posted:Because there's not a lot to talk about with regards to TFA. It's a fine movie, entertaining, there's nothing really to discuss about it. The prequels were a lot more polarizing. Some people like them, some people hate them, there's a lot to talk about. They're interesting movies even if you don't like them. Like midichlorians, Jar Jar Binks, all that weird cultish poo poo with the Jedi: even if you think those things are terrible, they're at least terrible in a baffling "What was George thinking?" kind of way. The Force Awakens is competent and entertaining, and actually has a few bits of genuine goodness (the characters), but it also feels a bit by-the-numbers. Millenium Falcon, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Princess Leia, stormtroopers, another Death Star type thing, the Empire. The prequels were Lucas doing his own thing; TFA is more design-by-committee. Hopefully that'll change in future movies, but who knows. Plus, the legacy of TFA is really going to be colored by the next two films. If TFA were the last film, it'd be fantastic on its own, if that helps.
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Fix your Cleartype, jeez. I found that on Twitter and didn't take it. 
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Corek posted:Let's check in with how the RLM fanbase is reacting I have the feeling that when he brought up the diversity and then proceeded not to make any real statement on it that he was trying to get that reaction on youtube comments.
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Even if it has rape undertones, thats not the same as exploiting rape or casting it in a good light. Rey overpowers her attempted-rapist, [literally] becomes a stronger person from her success, and does not become emotionally traumatized. It's about the same as complaining about depictions of murder in a scene where a hero saves someone from their assailant.
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temple posted:The interrogation happened but it was just him and a robot with needle. Leia wasn't even restrained. No, just cornered in a tiny room where she is then visually enveloped by the giant guy. Who has a needle.
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temple posted:Idk, Leia was always a sexy princess in comparison to Rey's asexuality. Even in ANH she lounged around in her cell like a typical damsel in distress There's clearly a rape subtext between Kylo Ren and the captured Rey -- it's an evil man trying to dominant a vulnerable woman, for God's sake -- but I only have an issue with you saying this a new thing for Star Wars. In the beginning of ROTJ, Leia wore a humiliating metal bikini and an actual collar; Jabba treated her like his property. At least Kylo didn't act like Rey was an object he can possess.
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To balance the scales, Finn has to wear a metal speedo and be saved by Poe in Episode IX.
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Equeen posted:There's clearly a rape subtext between Kylo Ren and the captured Rey -- it's an evil man trying to dominant a vulnerable woman, for God's sake -- but I only have an issue with you saying this a new thing for Star Wars. In the beginning of ROTJ, Leia wore a humiliating metal bikini and an actual collar; Jabba treated her like his property. At least Kylo didn't act like Rey was an object he can possess.
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temple posted:I apologize for saying addition. I hope this reaches you and brings peace. I feel so relieved 
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Corek posted:Let's check in with how the RLM fanbase is reacting As far as I'm concerned this is the audience that RLM deserves for that loving Ghostbusters video.
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Equeen posted:They're just mad that the only main white character they can cling to is BB-8. What about Poe Dameron?
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Guy Goodbody posted:What about Poe Dameron? Oscar Isaac is Guatemalan.
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Serf posted:Oscar Isaac is Guatemalan. That doesn't mean that every character he plays automatically becomes Guatemalan.
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Guy Goodbody posted:That doesn't mean that every character he plays automatically becomes Guatemalan. Right. Steve Martin was a black man in The Jerk.
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homullus posted:Right. Steve Martin was a black man in The Jerk. How does Arnold Schwarzenegger, with a thick Austrian accent, so frequently play a character named John?
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Who would have guessed that these libertarian Star Wars nerds would become figureheads of the alt right.
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Guy Goodbody posted:That doesn't mean that every character he plays automatically becomes Guatemalan. All I'm pointing out is that the actor is not white. Actually, wasn't there an interview with Isaac about how the Rebel base exterior in Episode IV was from Guatemala, and they decided that Poe would be from that world? I remember thinking that was very sweet.
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Guy Goodbody posted:That doesn't mean that every character he plays automatically becomes Guatemalan. It also doesn't make them automatically white either.
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homullus posted:Right. Steve Martin was a black man in The Jerk. There's no Guatemala in space, so the character of Poe Dameron can't be Guatemalan. So whether or not the actor portraying him is Guatemalan has nothing to do with what race Poe Dameron is.
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Guy Goodbody posted:There's no Guatemala in space, so the character of Poe Dameron can't be Guatemalan. So whether or not the actor portraying him is Guatemalan has nothing to do with what race Poe Dameron is. Finn: The Guato system? What's that? Poe: It's where I'm from! Finn: There are too many systems nowadays.
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Guy Goodbody posted:There's no Guatemala in space, so the character of Poe Dameron can't be Guatemalan. So whether or not the actor portraying him is Guatemalan has nothing to do with what race Poe Dameron is. There is no race in space, or even in much of Western history. Race is a construct born of the imperialism of the past ~700 years.
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