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Covok posted:Digimon World: ReDigitize any good? nonononononono It's really really bad. Really bad. Really very bad.
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Mar 17, 2016 04:17
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Burkion posted:At the very least, it's sort of implied that that wasn't a REAL Apocalymon, and just the weird disguise of Mephistomon. I think. Most people I've seen talk about generally think it's an actual Apocalymon(and might even be the Adventure one reborn through the timey-wimey weirdness that technically ties Adventure and Tamers together through Ryo) he just devolves into Mephismon through either getting his rear end kicked by Omegamon or due to crossing the dimensional boundary, and then sought an alternate evolution much like Diablomon did in movie 4
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Mar 17, 2016 04:19
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mikeycp posted:nonononononono I remember playing the original Digimon World game when I was a kid and never understanding it. Used to think the problem with it was that I didn't get it. Wasn't a good game even if I understood it?
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Mar 17, 2016 04:20
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Covok posted:I remember playing the original Digimon World game when I was a kid and never understanding it. Used to think the problem with it was that I didn't get it. Wasn't a good game even if I understood it? The same sentiment applies to the original Digimon world. It you REALLY want to you can take out the last sentence in it, but that's it. They're both completely awful.
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Mar 17, 2016 04:22
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Burkion posted:At the very least, it's sort of implied that that wasn't a REAL Apocalymon, and just the weird disguise of Mephistomon. I think. I watched the movie years ago so I honestly don't remember, but you might have it backwards, as Mephismon's DRB profile states that "It is also a dark being born from the lingering thought-data of an Apocalymon that attempted to destroy all life". Of course, this might just be the DRB and have nothing to do with the movie, but movie villains tend to keep blatant references to their movies in those profiles, like the entire Keramon line just being a bunch of Our War Game references (with Armagemon referencing Revenge of Diablomon, of course). Also Re: Digitize is bad. Do not play it. The original World is not as bad, and it has some potential, but it's such a weird game with a lot of things that are just not explained even remotely to the player.
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Mar 17, 2016 04:22
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jivjov posted:Or, if you're on the tokusatsu side of things, the new stuff from the movie turns up again for another episode around the time the DVD comes out. which is what makes me worried for future Shout Factory Sentai DVD sets since they currently don't have the rights to the movies. You'll get things like the Shogun Engines in Go-onger or the Dino Song from Kyoryuger (which shows up actually pretty early, I think the movie was still in theaters when it was brought in to the show)
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Mar 17, 2016 05:00
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The first world game and re:digitize are neat in idea, since they're expanded versions of the v-pet games. Just chill, goof around, and see what you get and advance the plot along. But with the v-pet games, there were way less stats you had to micromanage (sleep disturbances, care mistakes, number of battles, and sometimes overfeeding), rather than care mistakes, weight, number of battles, and a very specific rpg stat range for evolution criteria. Things being hidden from you is not as bad with the v-pets, since they're just ye olde toilet games, but everything being hidden is just intolerable when you're expected to be playing it for 1hr+ a day. sometime i should play the side games. the only other ones i've played are the ds games which become tolerable with a fast-forward button and liberal use of a exp x2 cheat
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Mar 17, 2016 05:11
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I know the question was "best Digimon game without qualifiers" BUT I liked Digimon World Dawn for DS a lot even though it was grindy and had a lot of script errors. The Digimon selection was substantial, and it scratched my Pokemon itch something fierce. There were also a handful of bosses that the game threw at you that you couldn't actually get. Still. I thought it was good.
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Mar 17, 2016 05:34
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I mean the best digimon game without qualifiers is just Cyber Sleuth surely
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Mar 17, 2016 05:40
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I liked Digimon World and Re:Digitize, but maybe that's because I just used the evolution items and stuff to skip requirements.
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Mar 17, 2016 06:05
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Digimon World was an interesting game with a number of unique mechanics that remained unique because they were godawful. Always really dug the v-pet angle, though. It'd be pretty cool if that could somehow be polished and fit into a proper game without being completely frustrating. But I loving love random bullshit. And chugging sewage
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Mar 17, 2016 07:01
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Best Digimon game is a hard tie between Cyber Sleuth and Digital Card Battle. A distant third for me would be World 3 but I know people are more fond of the World games on DS than the PSX ones. I mostly just have a lot of nostalgia for World 3.
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Mar 17, 2016 10:12
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TriffTshngo posted:Best Digimon game is a hard tie between Cyber Sleuth and Digital Card Battle. A distant third for me would be World 3 but I know people are more fond of the World games on DS than the PSX ones. I mostly just have a lot of nostalgia for World 3. I, too, have a fondness for terrible grindfest Digimon World 3 but I admit that it's not very good. Better hope you don't have specific megas in mind going into that or you'll be there for months grinding.
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Mar 17, 2016 10:19
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ghost sex posted:Digimon World was an interesting game with a number of unique mechanics that remained unique because they were godawful. I really love the original Digimon World (I've beaten it with my first Digimon before), but it is definitely not for everyone. It's also not very fun if you don't know it inside and out.
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Mar 17, 2016 11:47
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mateo360 posted:which is what makes me worried for future Shout Factory Sentai DVD sets since they currently don't have the rights to the movies. You'll get things like the Shogun Engines in Go-onger or the Dino Song from Kyoryuger (which shows up actually pretty early, I think the movie was still in theaters when it was brought in to the show) I honestly don't think that will feel too terribly jarring for those of us who follow along with the fan subbing community; subs for movies don't exist until a DVD release is out and has been acquired by the team; so exact timeline placement and the first appearance of movie exclusive power ups tend to get a little fuzzy anyway. Plus, as was brought up before, the writers can't really make the assumption that every single person that watches a show is going to go see the movie; a smart writer won't make the film crucial to understanding or enjoyment.
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Mar 17, 2016 12:15
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Emong posted:I really love the original Digimon World (I've beaten it with my first Digimon before), but it is definitely not for everyone. It's also not very fun if you don't know it inside and out. I had a guide and still couldn't figure it out. There are only like three people in the whole world who know that game inside and out,
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Mar 17, 2016 12:49
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Emong posted:I really love the original Digimon World (I've beaten it with my first Digimon before), but it is definitely not for everyone. It's also not very fun if you don't know it inside and out. For me, all the arbitrary event triggers and obfuscated mechanics really lent it a sense of mystique and discovery at the expense of being kind of terrible to play. Could've given the player actual control over their digimon during combat without losing a goddamn thing, though.
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Mar 17, 2016 13:43
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Rina is adorable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgjpWn6CG3I
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Mar 17, 2016 16:34
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CharlestheHammer posted:I had a guide and still couldn't figure it out. There are only like three people in the whole world who know that game inside and out, Yeah and Numemon was the worst game over ever.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:45
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Rudoku posted:Yeah and Numemon was the worst game over ever. Numemon was the easiest path to power in the game. Get to Toy Town, evolve it into Monzaemon, bam. Nearly no-effort high-power Perfect level.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:47
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Blaze Dragon posted:Numemon was the easiest path to power in the game. Get to Toy Town, evolve it into Monzaemon, bam. Nearly no-effort high-power Perfect level. Not if it's your first Champion anywhere before Toy Town.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:58
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dis astranagant posted:I, too, have a fondness for terrible grindfest Digimon World 3 but I admit that it's not very good. Better hope you don't have specific megas in mind going into that or you'll be there for months grinding. Shout out to everyone who did the Veemon side quest
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Mar 17, 2016 20:13
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Raserys posted:Shout out to everyone who did the Veemon side quest I did it two or three times but every other time I just cheated him onto my team because gently caress it.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:22
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I own Digimon World 3 from a trip to a thrift store a few months back. Only played like 10 minutes. Seemed okay, but its a grindfest? That blows as grinding is my least favorite activity.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:47
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i love digimon 3 but it is hella grindy yes
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Mar 17, 2016 20:49
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You don't HAVE to grind if you don't want to, but you won't be able to get certain Digimon otherwise. I will warn, the game is pretty unforgiving. Very little direction in the game about where to go or what to do, and it's super easy to just wander into an area with enemies that are literally 20+ levels higher than you. I like it well enough though, and it's one of the ONLY games to have Slash Angemon, the single most anime Digimon ever made.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:51
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Burkion posted:You don't HAVE to grind if you don't want to, but you won't be able to get certain Digimon otherwise. More like "you won't be able to get past the first part of the game". Good luck getting to the second gym without grinding to Perfect. Hell, good luck beating the first without a bit of grinding, or even getting there without hitting level 5 in the first area. The game's horribly grindy and encounters give low exp so you'll spend a lot of time getting bored out of seeing the same Digimon over and over again. If you can get past that, it's a decently fun RPG, and it definitely has more charm than the dull DS installments, but man I don't recommend anyone to play this without cheating for more exp.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:58
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Blaze Dragon posted:More like "you won't be able to get past the first part of the game". Good luck getting to the second gym without grinding to Perfect. Hell, good luck beating the first without a bit of grinding, or even getting there without hitting level 5 in the first area. I admit, I got *SUPER* lost when I played it as a kid, so I didn't so much as Grind as "Figure out where the gently caress things were" I reached Mega Level before getting to the Tiki mask dude just because I kept getting lost and running around in circles. On the plus side, Gallantmon was worth it.
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Mar 17, 2016 21:04
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I could never found the Digi Egg of Sincerity to get Submarimon 
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Mar 17, 2016 21:15
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My go-to tactic was to grind it out with Agumon until I got SkullGreymon, then fast-track over to the West sector and get Counter and Multi-Crests for all 3 of my dudes. From then on you can pretty much spend the rest of the game letting enemies deal their own damage to themselves as you spend turns healing and occasionally using a tech or two.
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Mar 17, 2016 21:29
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TriffTshngo posted:My go-to tactic was to grind it out with Agumon until I got SkullGreymon, then fast-track over to the West sector and get Counter and Multi-Crests for all 3 of my dudes. From then on you can pretty much spend the rest of the game letting enemies deal their own damage to themselves as you spend turns healing and occasionally using a tech or two. Yeah, but that doesn't work in the PAL version, which has an extra quest in the endgame 
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Mar 17, 2016 23:14
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Here's a comprehensive tier list of the starters in Digimon World 3: 1. Kotemon 2. Monmon 3. All the anime Digimon 4. Kumamon
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Mar 17, 2016 23:24
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Raserys posted:Here's a comprehensive tier list of the starters in Digimon World 3: Terriermon and his line wer out, starting the trend of never putting him in games for some reason.
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Mar 17, 2016 23:53
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Geostomp posted:Terriermon and his line wer out, starting the trend of never putting him in games for some reason. He's in the DS games but iirc you have to go out of your way to get him. And you can get MegaGargomon in World 3 but it comes from MetalGarurumon for whatever reason.
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Mar 17, 2016 23:56
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Playing Digimon 3 on an emulator instead of the PSOne improves the game a lot because: - You can fastforward the grinding sheenanigans - You can save state. This game is VERY unforgiving at times, you can be killing enemies just fine but suddenly a rare enemy encounter pops up and annihilates your team while you are trying to escape (Musyamon in the graveyard jungle), or you switch to the wrong screen and get into an encounter taking the one step necesary to go to the previous screen, or sudden Boss out of nowhere with insane stats (Bulbmon), or MagnaAngemon gets really spammy and RNGfavored with his Heaven's Gate, or you decided to check just how strong Knightmon is and can't escape now, and the save point was all the way back in town - You can fastforward THE SAVING SCREEN. This game has one of the longest saving screens I can think of. The game actually punishes you for being too cautious by taking 2 minutes out of your life. - You can save state scam the dumb RNG in Training Gyms. I cannot stress how important this is. The bulk of your stats will be earned by training at the gym since you gain very little stat growth by leveling up (when you do levelup). And you cannot affect in any way how your Digimon will perform in the training session. It's just good ol' RNG. In a game where a 20 point difference in Agility can mean the enemy getting 2 turns in a row or you blocking 2 out of 5 attacks, getting the most out of every training session is crucial. Somethings to note about using an emulator though, despite having Save states, you DO have to save from time to time. I don't really know how this game's enginge works but it appears it has a maximum amount of data it can load between each session, requiring the game to be manually loaded from the menu in order to clear it. Otherwise you will get in weird scenarios where the screen will just not clear the loading squares, or getting stuck in infinite battle loading screen limbo (this happened with ePSXe, can't confirm other emulators). Despite all this flaws, I actually like the game due to the diversity of Digimons you can get and how well animated some of their attacks were for a PS1 low budget game.
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Mar 18, 2016 03:06
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Oh man. Next Order really cranked up the edginess to eleven (spoilers for the final boss)  
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Mar 18, 2016 20:15
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Man, it's a shame that they're wasting a lot of cool stuff on what will certainly be a terrible game.
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Mar 18, 2016 20:17
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I don't get it, is that some sorta BlackOmegamon? with the sword and gun stuff switched around?
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Mar 18, 2016 20:33
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I don't get it, is that some sorta BlackOmegamon? with the sword and gun stuff switched around? It's Omegamon Zwart Alter-B, a new form introduced in the game. The Executioner? is another variant: Omegamon Zwart D (defeated)
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:It's Omegamon Zwart Alter-B, a new form introduced in the game. The Executioner? is another variant: Omegamon Zwart D (defeated) I googled what Zwart even is. It's literally just BlackOmegamon alts then.
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