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Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Coolguye posted:

the ming destroyed the vibrant trade networks that made china so rich and awesome around that time and it's not arguable. like all merchants had to submit a full inventory of goods to the state monthly, and that was before the emperor failed to make a profit on an insanely decadent trade voyage that was really just an extended luxury cruise (he had a loving giraffe on the flagship junk for gently caress's sake) and forbade all external trade period because if he couldn't make a profit nobody could. the entirety of the cool stuff in the dynasty is just coasting on the lead the Song dynasty had built up.

The majestic Qilin was not a luxury. :colbert:

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Ok what was the deal with the giraffe?

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Ok what was the deal with the giraffe?

Coolguye said "a loving giraffe" so presumably the emperor wanted to be able to gently caress it while at sea.

Lollerich
Mar 25, 2004

The little doctors are back,
they want to play with you!
I read that Giraffes are delicious, so we can all guess what happened to it in the end.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Giraffes were the Supreme shirts of 800 AD

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
Ok I'll explain. It's actually kind of interesting how this all played out.

I'm sure you're all familiar with this guy:



The animal picture on top of the can. The Japanese call this mythical beast a Kirin, but the idea originally came from the Chinese, who refer to it as a Qilin. The beer company draws it as a hoofed lion/dragon but like most fake things from Asia it doesn't really have a concrete definition. It's an animal that's made up of a bunch of different animal parts and has magical nature powers or something. Very lucky if you see one!

Anyway, as Coolguye mentioned, they managed to sail all the way to Africa at one point, saw a bunch of crazy new animals, and brought them back to impress everyone and also probably eat them. They were especially stoked by the giraffe, which they decided was the mythical Qirin despite it just being a horse with a long neck and not having any lion/dragon/scorpion/dog/etc features. A chabuduo Qilin.

Somehow news of this eventually got to Japan. As a result, the word in Japanese for giraffe is, to this day, "kirin" (キリン). Not a nickname or anything, that's literally the only word they have for giraffe. The beer Kirin Ichiban is obviously referring to the mythical animal but it technically also translates to Number One Giraffe Beer. The end.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
So that's why all the English schools in China are called happy giraffe?

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

So that's why all the English schools in China are called happy giraffe?

the long neck deer variety of giraffe is a chain of english schools for kids

if you're a good enough foreign monkey there you get to don hanfu

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
How many kids in your English school have undiagnosed special needs?

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

big time bisexual posted:

the long neck deer variety of giraffe is a chain of english schools for kids

if you're a good enough foreign monkey there you get to don hanfu



plz don't doxx me

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
also, living like an hour outside of shenyang, figure out what kind of lifestyle you could have here, compared to your city

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Shenyang

i've spent a while on this website this morning, it's great lol

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

The Great Autismo! posted:

also, living like an hour outside of shenyang, figure out what kind of lifestyle you could have here, compared to your city

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Shenyang

i've spent a while on this website this morning, it's great lol
I could make a quarter of the minimum wage, eat a three course meal for two formless than a meal for one is here but I'd have to pay more for kindergarden lol.

The cheese, bizarrely enough, costs the same, as do basic utilities and m2 of apartment space.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Red Hanfu? Scrub tier.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


https://my.mixtape.moe/iccljl.mp4

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
genuinely shocked that whoever was filming didn't run him over

cnut
May 3, 2016

China has surely eaten a lot of dicks over the years.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I would blow Dane Cook posted:

How many kids in your English school have undiagnosed special needs?

The most frustrating kids at my school are more likely to take the extra English classes. Reasons include their mom wanting a little break and/or socialization in a controlled environment. These kids usually cluster together so I can understand not wanting to get the contact info for your idiot kid's idiot friend.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
My wife found this post on a BBS and thought it was funny. I might translate some more from this guy. Seems really funny to me

quote:

我终于决定要练习画画和涂颜色了,觉得有生之年没有好好的去做点自己的兴趣爱好,
真的是少点什么,所以马上就买了48色的彩色铅笔,其实买之前我也咨询过,说是新手
的话,32色的就足够了,但是我还是想一步到位吧。

虽然我还不能画出来很漂亮的,也不能画的很快,但是凡事总得有个开始,才能进行下
去,谁也不是一上来就画的那么好的。(就算是自我安慰吧)

目前买了几本画画的书,还有教涂颜色的,还没有收到货,都是网购的,基本都是花鸟
虫鱼之类的,人物的暂时还没敢考虑,人物以后也是画漫画,其他的都像素描之类的,
对于我来说就太难了,而且不花费大量的时间练习的话,肯定也画不出来满意的样子,
所以只能暂时先放弃。

我要是能画好简单的也就知足了,尤其是花朵和漂亮的鸟,能画好就行。

quote:

I finally decided that I wanted to learn to paint and draw. I felt that if I didn't do something in my life for myself that I really enjoyed, then something would just be missing. So I went straight away to buy 48 colored pencils. Before I bought them I actually asked around, and people said that--if you're a beginner--32 colored pencils is plenty. I just wanted to get it all done at once, so I bought 48 anyway.

I can't draw anything that really looks good, and I can't draw fast at all, but everyone has to start somewhere. No one ever started out doing amazing drawings, talent has to be worked toward. (At least this is how I comfort myself...)

I've bought some drawing books as well as some coloring books, though the packages haven't arrived yet since I ordered them online. All the books are about drawing birds, bugs, etc. I'm not even thinking about drawing people yet. All the other kinds of books are like sketchbooks, and they look too complicated for me. Also, if I'm going to spend most of my time practicing something, I want it to be something rewarding, not something that just makes me want to give up.

Even if I can only paint simple stuff, it's totally satisfying to me. Especially if I can paint flowers and pretty birds, then that's good enough for me.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


lol

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

https://twitter.com/baldingsworld/status/910335592155590657

Lol

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012


:chanpop: What the gently caress university is that?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



Alternatively, I am specifically banned from mentioning China in my classes.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

quote:

本来我玩的大型网游《完美国际》已经有点腻了(其实不是不想玩,是时间不够,任务
做不完),但是加入了游戏里的一个帮派,做任务的时候可以一起,帮主还可以带任务
,瞬间就又觉得好玩了。

更好玩的是,我们帮派还有个微信群,当然啦群主就是帮主,时不时的还给我们发个红
包,哈哈哈,虽然经常都是1分钱,几毛钱,但是娱乐么,钱多钱少不重要的,主要是
为了活跃气氛,然后谁几点有时间玩游戏,几点去做任务,可以在微信群里知会一声,
大家一起去,这样任务很快就做完了,我感觉这个游戏我又可以继续玩下去了。

帮主年龄还不小,46岁了,看来是个资深玩家啊,有时候屏幕那一边是他儿子玩的,我
们都不知道,但是如果他半天不打字不说话那就说明是他儿子,不错,都有接班人了。p

quote:

Joined a guild in an MMO, feeling it's way more fun now

When I first started playing an MMO (Perfect World), I was already feeling a bit bored of it (actually though, it wasn't that I didn't want to play, it's that I didn't have enough time to complete all the quests). Now that I've joined a guild though, we complete all the quests together, and the guild leader can even bring us on quests. Suddenly the game is a ton of fun again.

What's even more fun? Well, we have a Wechat group for our guild, and of course the guild leader is the moderator of the Wechat group, so sometimes he even give us red envelopes! (translator note: in Chinese culture you give red envelopes as gifts during almost all holidays, they are just red colored envelopes with money inside) Hahaha, even though the red envelopes are usually only one cent, it's still just so fun. It's not important whether it's a lot of money or not, the main thing is that it really creates a fun and inviting atmosphere for the guild. Whenever someone wants to play, or do a quest, they just have to post on Weixin, and then everyone goes and does it together. Doing it like this, we complete the quests really fast...let's just say I think I'm going to keep having a lot of fun with this game.

Our guild leader isn't even very young! He's 46 years old, and he seems like a really experienced gamer. Sometimes his son is even playing with us on our guild leader's PC! We're not sure, but if the guild leader's character doesn't talk or type for half the day, then we know it's his son playing. Well, no problem, that just means our guild has a successor lined up!

same guy

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Holy gently caress this propaganda rag article on that guy's twitter feed. http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1066998.shtml?utm_content=buffer9eb46&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

quote:

The first period of New China's development, in 1949-76, then saw the greatest social achievements in world history.

:eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop: :eyepop:

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

The Great Autismo! posted:

also, living like an hour outside of shenyang, figure out what kind of lifestyle you could have here, compared to your city

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Shenyang

i've spent a while on this website this morning, it's great lol
Average monthly salary: 3500 RMB
Average daily number of HALLOOUUUUUs: 61.5
Average monthly cases of extreme hair cavery: 4
Average number of teeth per person: 17
Average level of personal hygiene (out of 10): 3
Average daily sightings of adults and children street making GBS threads: 29
Average daily loogies hocked by older men and women: 136
Average level of dignity for foreigners (out of 10). 2.7
Average monthly cost of hospital bills for food poisoning or STI treatment: 7000 RMB
Average daily number of times the foreigner is complimented on usage of chopsticks or pronunciation of "ni hao": 6

I like that he thought grabbing a moving car with his bare hands was possible. I don't even know why the SUV was swerving.

angel opportunity posted:

I can't draw anything that really looks good, and I can't draw fast at all, but everyone has to start somewhere. No one ever started out doing amazing drawings, talent has to be worked toward. (At least this is how I comfort myself...)
Brain...fighting...face...culture...shameful to not know something or be a beginning... better...just... be lovely at everything.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I can't make fun of a guy learning how to draw from scratch. So many people avoid learning things or developing any artistic ability because of the shameful early results. Good on the guy for learning and posting his first attempts.

What I would love someone to find and translate is the china version of this thread. Musings and anecdotes written by mainlanders about the west, preferably by people living/working/traveling there.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Bajaj posted:

Average monthly cases of extreme hair cavery: 4

the X Games are just getting out of control

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Baronjutter posted:

I can't make fun of a guy learning how to draw from scratch. So many people avoid learning things or developing any artistic ability because of the shameful early results. Good on the guy for learning and posting his first attempts.

What I would love someone to find and translate is the china version of this thread. Musings and anecdotes written by mainlanders about the west, preferably by people living/working/traveling there.

I'm not really making fun of her (found out from other posts it's a she), I mostly just am kind of sighing in sadness at the way Chinese kids are raised. Same thing happened to my wife where her parents only allowed her to study and never allowed her to do anything fun.

I mostly like these posts because they are very genuine and into stuff with no layers of irony. I think I talked about this before as one of the few things I genuinely like about Chinese culture (the way people will unironically just be into stuff)

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Baronjutter posted:

I can't make fun of a guy learning how to draw from scratch. So many people avoid learning things or developing any artistic ability because of the shameful early results. Good on the guy for learning and posting his first attempts.

What I would love someone to find and translate is the china version of this thread. Musings and anecdotes written by mainlanders about the west, preferably by people living/working/traveling there.

For me, at least, it's more about "this is the number of colours you're supposed to have as a beginner, and supposed to have as an intermediate, and to draw well you must draw fast, and before painting people you must master painting plants"

I'm not the worlds best artist but I went from ripping off cartoon strips to pencil portraits and then dabbled in landscape watercolour as my interest took me.

Plus the fact that they've immediately sprung for "pencils in a cloth wrap like top end chef knives" because that's *pro* because obviously the tools make the artist, then the self deprecation so face can't be lost (used to get this all the time with uni students, especially female uni students, false modesty to avoid face loss, pissed me right off, like you got into the most competitive university in Hk, you know you're intelligent, loving go out on a limb and make a point in class) but the posting of a sketch anyway really betraying it.

The whole thing is like there is some kind of social manual on "HOW TO ARTIST" and loving hell at concept is just depressing

Not that it's uniquely Chinese, there was a family friend I knew growing up, decided he'd do Spanish Guitar as a middle aged man, took pretty much this exact approach. But this guy was an anomaly in my experience, whereas in HK and apparently also China, such a perspective is the norm.


Bloody hell, the proper number of coloured loving pencils. I ask you.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

holy poo poo how old is that blog post? id never heard of Perfect World but it looks like it came out 12 years ago, and weixin is way more recent.

When I read those posts I imagine them being bookended with :unsmith:

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

angel opportunity posted:

I mostly like these posts because they are very genuine and into stuff with no layers of irony. I think I talked about this before as one of the few things I genuinely like about Chinese culture (the way people will unironically just be into stuff)

My favorite was the highschool kid on twitter that was super obsessed with solving 2x2 rubicks cubes and would post his times


simplefish posted:

For me, at least, it's more about "this is the number of colours you're supposed to have as a beginner, and supposed to have as an intermediate, and to draw well you must draw fast, and before painting people you must master painting plants"
...
Bloody hell, the proper number of coloured loving pencils. I ask you.

Yeah thats the best part. She cares more about being viewed as an artist than actually making art.

Also with the MMO thing where she goes out of her way to explain that she wasn't bored with the game, just that the quests take too long. Doesnt that....mean you got bored?

LentThem fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Sep 20, 2017

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Baronjutter posted:

I can't make fun of a guy learning how to draw from scratch. So many people avoid learning things or developing any artistic ability because of the shameful early results. Good on the guy for learning and posting his first attempts.

Was gonna say, he did a drat better job than I could. He's modest about it and has a pretty good attitude.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Bajaj posted:

Average level of dignity for foreigners (out of 10). 2.7

wat the heck

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
It's a she, and the posts were made few a few days ago (she posts very often). I'm guessing she's between 30-40 years old from the posts I've read of hers

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

simplefish posted:




Bloody hell, the proper number of coloured loving pencils. I ask you.

check out this response, bearing in mind the picture she posted in the OP:

quote:

Prismacolor ,我最爱的彩色铅笔,我觉得48色是起码的。建议你再入一套verithin配
合使用。你有转笔刀了么?一定要买KUM 两步的那种
Fable castell 我用过polychroms 个人体验不佳,色彩不是很鲜明,而且不容易上色
,手腕累。你的这个好像是学生版,我没有用过,期待你分享体验。p

quote:

Prismacolor is my absolute favorite colored pencil brand. I think 48 colors is the absolute minimum. I suggest adding a pack of verithins to your collection. Do you have a pencil sharpener? You absolutely need to buy KUM, two of them. I've used Fable castell before, polychroms are in my personal experience not very good, the colors are just not vibrant enough. It's just not easy to get great colors with them. The ones you got seem to be for students, I've never used them before. I'm looking forward to you sharing your experiences!

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


You absolutely need to buy KUM

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEvGmpIkbKU&t=46s

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Shine on, Colored Pencils Lady. If you wanna spend a ton of money on supplies because it makes you feel more authentic, that's cool.

I was a hard-core artfag in high school. One of our core members was this rich girl who always had the most expensive materials, but didn't have much ability. The rest of us were scholarship kids and would look upon her gloopy canvases with despair. "Three whole tubes of Golden went into that painting of what appears to be a melting fairy with trisomy 21." "FFFFFFFFFF--"

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZD-ADArwXo&t=7s

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WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Shine on, Colored Pencils Lady. If you wanna spend a ton of money on supplies because it makes you feel more authentic, that's cool.

I was a hard-core artfag in high school. One of our core members was this rich girl who always had the most expensive materials, but didn't have much ability. The rest of us were scholarship kids and would look upon her gloopy canvases with despair. "Three whole tubes of Golden went into that painting of what appears to be a melting fairy with trisomy 21." "FFFFFFFFFF--"

Maybe she was planning to market it as a postmodern work? That might be how her folks got rich - selling gloss portraits of a brick on a plate.

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