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Inspector Gesicht posted:Theranos is closing down. At least 1 billion in investments lost. 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Theranos is closing down. At least 1 billion in investments lost. Wonder how much Siemens paid to get their hands on the upgrades Theranos made on their equipment. Across Germany R&D departments are probably working around the clock to unravel the secrets.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Elon please keep tweeting New thread title. Bates posted:Wonder how much Siemens paid to get their hands on the upgrades Theranos made on their equipment. Across Germany R&D departments are probably working around the clock to unravel the secrets. The secret was in their hearts all along.
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Sep 5, 2018 09:49
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Marijuana posted:You're right! Capital is is freakin shook. Hey guess who is back as part of WNYC and is now union-organized: http://gothamist.com/2018/04/26/gothamist_self_aware_jday.php
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Sep 5, 2018 10:30
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I'm the multi-billion $ note-taking application.
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Sep 5, 2018 11:44
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Hey guess who is back as part of WNYC and is now union-organized: The first paragraph is enough to make me wish they stayed dead.
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Sep 5, 2018 13:34
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Theranos is closing down. At least 1 billion in investments lost. CNN link
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Theranos is closing down. At least 1 billion in investments lost. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes posted:In May 2018 author John Carreyrou released his book Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup. A movie based on the book is in development with Jennifer Lawrence in the role of Holmes and to be directed by Adam McKay.
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Sep 5, 2018 16:08
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Theranos is closing down. At least 1 billion in investments lost. I would have lost their money for half that.
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Sep 5, 2018 16:13
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1037249325464600578?s=21 Lmao
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Sep 5, 2018 17:03
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oh my god lmao
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Sep 5, 2018 17:04
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Is it possible for an investor's board to have a gag order on their CEO?
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Sep 5, 2018 17:58
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plot twist: the cave rescuer does turn out to be a huge pedophile im just kidding, calm the gently caress down
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Sep 5, 2018 18:53
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Get this, Tesla 'sold' over 15k Mod. 3's in August. A record for plug-in cars. If they would just tie Musk to a chair ala Clockwork Orange and make him watch "how to behave" films.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:05
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VideoGameVet posted:Get this, Tesla 'sold' over 15k Mod. 3's in August. It's not just Musk embarrassing himself, the company itself is also obviously a disaster, with constant reports of cars falling apart or people receiving vehicles with all sorts of hilariously terrible problems (or not receiving them at all). It's a situation sorta like Theranos where it seems like everyone who questioned Musk's various terrible decisions was fired (or chose to leave), leaving nothing but a bunch of Musk cultists who will follow his every word, no matter how stupid.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:36
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Ytlaya posted:It's not just Musk embarrassing himself, the company itself is also obviously a disaster, with constant reports of cars falling apart or people receiving vehicles with all sorts of hilariously terrible problems (or not receiving them at all). This is a dumb comparison. Theranos never had a working product. They couldn't even do the basic stuff they fell back on after their fantasy groundbreaking machine failed to materialize. But they lied about it by faking experiments and falsifying test results, and spent most of their time trying to contain stories. Model 3s have quality problems, but that's because Tesla is struggling to scale production, not because what they are trying to do is impossible. If/when the board fires Musk and hires a competent CEO who has manufacturing experience, things will get back on track.
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Sep 5, 2018 21:47
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enraged_camel posted:. It's because it's a moronic car design from top to bottom that is impossible to build correctly. Much like Elon Musk ideas in general.
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fishmech posted:It's because it's a moronic car design from top to bottom that is impossible to build correctly. Much like Elon Musk ideas in general. What design flaws does it have that is preventing Tesla from switching to automated manufacturing?
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Sep 5, 2018 23:14
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enraged_camel posted:What design flaws does it have that is preventing Tesla from switching to automated manufacturing? The more they automate the more flaws the cars have?
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Sep 5, 2018 23:15
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enraged_camel posted:What design flaws does it have that is preventing Tesla from switching to automated manufacturing? the owner is headbutting cars going down the assembly line
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Sep 5, 2018 23:18
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exploded mummy posted:the owner is headbutting cars going down the assembly line yea that was pretty drat funny
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I can't find any other threads talking about this subject, and this place seems like the closest thread to cover the subject. I listened to a portion of the recent house hearing that questioned the CEO of Twitter. It's interesting that this conversation is finally happening. The government is finally interested in learning and potentially holding companies accountable for the data they collect, study, sell, etc. For Twitter they discussed targeting their users with content suggestions and ads, policing their user base content, and how they attempt to make this a transparent process to the user. The conversation goal in the hearing seems to be trying to focus on understanding the problem and additionally the impact or extent of the damage. I was wondering if anyone had any good insights they would like to share.
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Sep 5, 2018 23:24
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enraged_camel posted:What design flaws does it have that is preventing Tesla from switching to automated manufacturing? All of it. Have you missed that? They outright announced, months before "production" started, that they were going to skip key prototyping steps: https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-is-making-manufacturing-mistake-with-model-3-2017-5 https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-skips-traditional-manufacturing-steps-model-3-588503 This choice is explicitly why they've failed to bring up functional production, unlike the Model S and X.
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Sep 5, 2018 23:43
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Urbanize LA has posted a thorough analysis of how The Boring Company's proposed Dodger Stadium solution doesn't work. Enjoy! https://urbanize.la/post/elon-musks-solution-dodger-stadium-traffic-full-holes
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Sep 5, 2018 23:58
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Anza Borrego posted:Urbanize LA has posted a thorough analysis of how The Boring Company's proposed Dodger Stadium solution doesn't work. Enjoy!  Yea ok dude, have fun trying to buy out the Walgreens or the Jack in the Box on 6th to fuel your dumb tiny trainholes.
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Sep 6, 2018 00:11
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FilthyImp posted:Wait, holy poo poo, he wanted one of the terminus spots to be on VERMONT? I think my favorite part is that it will handle 2% of the capacity 
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Anza Borrego posted:I think my favorite part is that it will handle 2% of the capacity I'm pretty sure Musk's car is less than 2% of total road capacity around there so I don't see why that'd be a problem???
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Anza Borrego posted:I think my favorite part is that it will handle 2% of the capacity Some interesting comparisons for that: - The single train line that services Giants Stadium in NJ is capable of handling 1/8 of the capacity of Giants Stadium per hour, and usually operates for time periods around major events at the complex sufficient to move 1/2 of the stadium. - The subway and commuter rail stations on the sides of Yankee Stadium are sufficient to move the whole stadium capacity within about an hour of a game starting, and then later to remove them within about an hour of the end of a game - The single subway line that reaches to the complex of sports stadiums in South Philly can move about half the capacity of the football stadium, or 2/3 the capacity of the baseball stadium (roughly) within a few hours of a game starting and ending
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Anza Borrego posted:Urbanize LA has posted a thorough analysis of how The Boring Company's proposed Dodger Stadium solution doesn't work. Enjoy! My favorite part about articles like this is not that they involve some tech-lord who tries to solve a social problem (usually a society abandoning its poorer citizens) with a technical solution, but that their grandiose claims end up being flatly wrong on the technical/budgetary merits. Its hard to be wrong twice in one statement, but man are these guys trying to shoot the moon.
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Ytlaya posted:It's not just Musk embarrassing himself, the company itself is also obviously a disaster, with constant reports of cars falling apart or people receiving vehicles with all sorts of hilariously terrible problems (or not receiving them at all). Maybe so, but they (somehow) have the highest customer satisfaction numbers of any automaker (re: Consumer Reports). I agree that this is no way (Model 3) to build a car, but I've talked to owners and they love their new Model 3's.
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VideoGameVet posted:Maybe so, but they (somehow) have the highest customer satisfaction numbers of any automaker (re: Consumer Reports). I suspect this is similar to apple fans who think that
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enraged_camel posted:This is a dumb comparison. Theranos never had a working product. They couldn't even do the basic stuff they fell back on after their fantasy groundbreaking machine failed to materialize. But they lied about it by faking experiments and falsifying test results, and spent most of their time trying to contain stories. Since it seems like your reading comprehension is lacking, the comparison was specifically referring to the tendency to fire (or otherwise push out) anyone who questioned the bad decisions of the CEO/leadership. Musk apparently does not usually react well to engineers disagreeing with him, which likely resulted in the company self-selecting for Musk cultists over time edit: It also seems very likely that Tesla shares Theranos's "attacked employees who tried to release damning information" situation, given the whole thing with Elon calling the cops on the whistle-blower who reported the punctured batteries, among other things. VideoGameVet posted:Maybe so, but they (somehow) have the highest customer satisfaction numbers of any automaker (re: Consumer Reports). This is because Tesla buyers are likely to be Tesla fans (or fans of Tesla's "vision") even before they buy the cars, plus the fact that it's difficult to admit to yourself that maybe you hosed up and wasted over $50k on a bad car (and from what I've heard, a disproportionate percent of people who normally couldn't afford such an expensive car are buying Model 3's, which means there's even more incentive to convince yourself that it was worth it). The same logic likely applies to most products that have a strong "culture" around them (and a high percentage of purchasers who are a part of that "culture").
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If you have a Tesla Model 3 now you almost certainly slapped down $1000 or more to reserve it as early as 2 years before it was out and before most of the details of its design were even known. And you didn't take the opportunity on the way to ask for a refund to wait until it was out and see what it was like. And you either from the start ordered a higher price model or upgraded your order to one in order to even have it as they have yet to fulfill orders for the base model. There's a lot of steps in there that would wean out like, the kind of people who aren't literally invested in Tesla.
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They're never going to release the base model. I would bet money on it. Edit: Okay, I'll amend this; they'll never release the base model with Musk as CEO.
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SardonicTyrant posted:They're never going to release the base model. I would bet money on it. No business case for doing so. They can’t keep up with orders as it is. Nissan ships the 60kwh leaf this fall I believe. I wonder if the people who wanted a base model 3 will just buy that.
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VideoGameVet posted:No business case for doing so. They can’t keep up with orders as it is. The Chevy Bolt is already the thing the Tesla Model 3 was advertised as, beats it in range, and is actually available for the originally stated price.
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Theranos is basically the modern equivalent of that episode of The Dollop podcast where some conman kept selling wooden boxes to people claiming they were super advanced counterfeiting machines that could print fake money that would fool the authorities. Except imagine if that guy got billions in VC money.
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