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Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Internet Kraken posted:

Oh my loving god that looks amazing.

But I'm already slightly disappointed. When I heard "Crown of the Sunken King", I immediately assumed it would be about the ocean. A Heide Knight was in the trailer so I thought you would explore the sunken ruins deep being Heide to recover the crown of the king that ruled it. You would end up going into a hosed abyss full of all sorts of wonderful aquatic horrors. I would kill for Deep Souls :negative:

Um...but that's what the trailer seems to be showing?

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sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009

Rather irritating that they obviously decided from the get-go to pump out several DLC packages of stuff that was likely just cut from the main game. And priced all at "full" DLC rates to boot.

Gonna be pissed if any of them are shorter than Prepare to Die DLC was.

Any bets on new weapons they'll add? It looked like the Heide knight might have been using a mace, for one.

Dreggon posted:

Looking forward to adding license01.bin, license02.bin and license03.bin to my DLC folder

There's no way they won't patch that out by the time they release paid DLC.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Genocyber posted:

Um...but that's what the trailer seems to be showing?

He apparently wants to go swimming and diving in a Dark Souls game and fight sharks and horror-octopuses or something :rolleyes:

Yeah the trailer looks fantastic. Its definitely supposed to be a sunken temple type thing.

Wading through water in Dark Souls is brutal enough, we don't need swimming.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!


New armor set? Or have I just not seen this one?

sushibandit posted:

Rather irritating that they obviously decided from the get-go to pump out several DLC packages of stuff that was likely just cut from the main game. And priced all at "full" DLC rates to boot.

Don't think of it as DLC, think of it as expansion packs.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Genocyber posted:

Um...but that's what the trailer seems to be showing?

Literally right on the last page dude.

quote:

Crown of the Sunken King, the first chapter in the trilogy, sends you on a journey to reclaim the crowns that Drangleic’s King Vendrick once owned. Crown of the Sunken King features an entirely different world within the DARK SOULS II universe, where stepped pyramids span a vast underground cavern. It is said that one of the ancient crowns lay buried deep within these dark caverns; but surely such a valued item cannot sit unguarded. Players that seek adversity and glory will be rewarded with a crown that holds the strength of lords from times long past.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

sushibandit posted:

Rather irritating that they obviously decided from the get-go to pump out several DLC packages of stuff that was likely just cut from the main game. And priced all at "full" DLC rates to boot.

I doubt that. Unlike Dks nothing in Dks2 felt unfinished, and the game itself is considerably longer than Demon's and Dark. I think its more likely these areas were planned at some point, but cut early on and kept around as ideas for DLC. i.e. We were never going to get them without DLC.


quote:

There's no way they won't patch that out by the time they release paid DLC.

They might not, since given the text in the file it seems whoever got handled that was kind of grumpy about it. Obviously these expansions would work differently (I mean, you're going to have to download the assets and poo poo).

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

sushibandit posted:

Rather irritating that they obviously decided from the get-go to pump out several DLC packages of stuff that was likely just cut from the main game. And priced all at "full" DLC rates to boot.

Gonna be pissed if any of them are shorter than Prepare to Die DLC was.

Any bets on new weapons they'll add? It looked like the Heide knight might have been using a mace, for one.


There's no way they won't patch that out by the time they release paid DLC.

Nice, DLC just announced and there's already bitching about it!

25 bux for 3 DLC is not a bad deal, especially if the episodes are a decent length.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

CJacobs posted:



New armor set? Or have I just not seen this one?


Don't think of it as DLC, think of it as expansion packs.

Dark Souls 1 DLC was amazing. It added lots of new armor, so I don't see why this one wouldn't too.

It also added the best boss fights in the game.

I am excite.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Internet Kraken posted:

Literally right on the last page dude.

"entirely different world"

Which to me sounds like they're saying it will be different to everything from the base game, and probably connected in some odd fashion, like the Dks DLC. I'd be very surprised if it's not Heide.

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.
Given the pricing and release schedule I have to imagine each of these packs will be shorter than AotA but all three as a whole will probably be bigger. Maybe half an Artorias each, to completely invent an estimate based on absolutely nothing.

Fat_Cow
Dec 12, 2009

Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.

I am ready for DLC Hexes.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Opposing Farce posted:

Given the pricing and release schedule I have to imagine each of these packs will be shorter than AotA but all three as a whole will probably be bigger. Maybe half an Artorias each, to completely invent an estimate based on absolutely nothing.

To also completely talk out of my rear end, that would make sense and be pretty cool. I doubt they'll be very short.

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.

Fat_Cow posted:

I am ready for DLC Hexes.
I want to see something like Black Flame at least.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Genocyber posted:

"entirely different world"

Which to me sounds like they're saying it will be different to everything from the base game, and probably connected in some odd fashion, like the Dks DLC. I'd be very surprised if it's not Heide.

It says right in that DLC blurb its about getting Vendrick's crown. You're disagreeing about one of the few things we already know. :psyduck:

scamtank
Feb 24, 2011

my desire to just be a FUCKING IDIOT all day long is rapidly overtaking my ability to FUNCTION

i suspect that means i'm MENTALLY ILL


CJacobs posted:



New armor set? Or have I just not seen this one?

That's just the Mastodon armor with Alva's hat and boots, you bonghit.

Cyberventurer
Jul 10, 2005
I wonder how long each of the DLC areas ends up being. Hopefully a little longer than Oolacile in Dark Souls 1. I don't know how much that one cost since I got the game at a massive Steam discount but it seemed a little short. Really beautiful, but short.

Hopefully some new spells to play with, though. :getin:

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Internet Kraken posted:

It says right in that DLC blurb its about getting Vendrick's crown. You're disagreeing about one of the few things we already know. :psyduck:

quote:

Crown of the Sunken King, the first chapter in the trilogy, sends you on a journey to reclaim the crowns that Drangleic’s King Vendrick once owned.

Crowns, plural. Suggesting they're all about getting crowns Vendrick once owned, which are likely all crowns from other, past kingdoms. Hell, we all but know that's the case with the second DLC, being about the Old Iron King.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

quote:

EDIT: More baseless speculation; the Ivory King in the 3rd DLC is the Giant Lord and you're going to travel to the forgotten realm of the Giants.

It will be revealed that the player character is in fact responsible for every giant having an anus-face.

Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.

Fat_Cow posted:

I am ready for DLC Hexes.

They better put that drat barrel armor in the DLC.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Fat_Cow posted:

I am ready for DLC Hexes.

Considering the Dark Souls 1 dlc spells became hexes in this, watch them introduce a new category of spells called something like "fey magic" or some poo poo.

Gonna cast the hell out of some "Butterfly bead " with my rainbow wand.

Flytrap
Apr 30, 2013

Cowcaster posted:

Considering the Dark Souls 1 dlc spells became hexes in this, watch them introduce a new category of spells called something like "fey magic" or some poo poo.

Gonna cast the hell out of some "Butterfly bead " with my rainbow wand.

I would unironically love this.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Cowcaster posted:

Considering the Dark Souls 1 dlc spells became hexes in this, watch them introduce a new category of spells called something like "fey magic" or some poo poo.

Gonna cast the hell out of some "Butterfly bead " with my rainbow wand.

Great Magical Friendship deals damage that scales based on how many friends you've made while playing Dark Souls 2!

As a result its entirely useless.

omeg
Sep 3, 2012

Sunken king reminds me of Lovecraft. Hoping for some more original bosses in there.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Ohhhh gently caress yes DLC for the next three months! :getin:

my cat is norris posted:

A new patch is forthcoming. Bino-boosting and parry-walking are both going away. No set date, yet.

:siren: http://info.darksouls.jp/other/pc/information_detail/2014-06-04-01.html :siren:

Any translations for this?

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



VisAbsoluta posted:

Ohhhh gently caress yes DLC for the next three months! :getin:


Any translations for this?

Just google translate:

quote:

Update file ver1.05 (PS3/Xbox 360), ver1.03 (Windows)
Notice of delivery

Thank you very much I received for your continued support of From Software than daily .

DARK SOULS Ⅱ Niokimashite (PlayStation3/Xbox 360/Windows),
I am planning the delivery of a new update file to update the program .

It should be noted that the adjustment in the current delivery schedule , as soon as they are determined , you will be notified at this page at a later date .

We apologize for the inconvenience to everyone , thank you enough for your understanding .
[ Date and time ]

Delivery schedule during the adjustment
[ Platforms ]

PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Windows
[ Items to be improved by the latest update files ]

Modification of the phenomenon that she can move at high speed
Modification of the phenomenon that she can move floating in the air

This latest update file after application , each version of the title referred to the upper right of the screen will be as follows .
PlayStation3/Xbox 360
Ver [1.04 ⇒ 1.05]

Forgall
Oct 16, 2012

by Azathoth
Pretty sure I remember them saying there won't be any DLC and the game will be a "complete product". So that's a bit disappointing.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
I do hope they got some time to properly digest the player feedback before immediately starting working on this. Artorias of the Abyss really benefited from it IMO.

EDIT:

Forgall posted:

Pretty sure I remember them saying there won't be any DLC and the game will be a "complete product". So that's a bit disappointing.

They actually said there was "potential" for DLC before release. It was pretty much always a given they'd work on it eventually. I honestly don't get this attitude anyway, you absolutely can have DLC for a complete product.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Forgall posted:

Pretty sure I remember them saying there won't be any DLC and the game will be a "complete product". So that's a bit disappointing.

Nope. The director said more that there wouldn't be any need for DLC (i.e. There were no areas cut from the game due to time constraints), and that they might end up releasing DLC depending on how things went.

Even if that wasn't the case, who loving cares. More content is more content, there's nothing bad about that.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Genocyber posted:

Crowns, plural. Suggesting they're all about getting crowns Vendrick once owned, which are likely all crowns from other, past kingdoms. Hell, we all but know that's the case with the second DLC, being about the Old Iron King.

The base game talks a lot about Vendrick's end, and I suspect these DLCs will shed more light on his beginning. It sounds to me like something from Crusader Kings - like, Vendrick went a-conquerin', and either killed the kings before him or made them his vassals. Presumably these actions were before he invaded the Giants' homeland.

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug

Forgall posted:

Pretty sure I remember them saying there won't be any DLC and the game will be a "complete product". So that's a bit disappointing.

Well, the game is already a "complete product". So just don't buy the DLC.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Zaphod42 posted:

Oh my god they have poison statues that move now?!?! :stare:

No. No. Please. ANYTHING ELSE. Not THIS!

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Forgall posted:

Pretty sure I remember them saying there won't be any DLC and the game will be a "complete product". So that's a bit disappointing.

They said they didn't expect there would be any, not that there wouldn't be any.

Edge posted:

"For Dark Souls 2, we don't even expect any additional downloadable content because we want to deliver a full game, the full experience, to fans who purchase the package from day one," he told Edge.

Then, shortly before the game's release, they said this:

quote:

"There is definitely potential [for DLC]," he explained. "Again, it's all about fan feedback. Right now we are concentrating on completing what we've got, but I think there are next steps on how we can expand on Dark Souls 2.

"So I'm not really ready to say look forward to more information, but I think the potential is definitely there."

I seriously can't fathom how anyone is disappointed by this news. Just because a video game has downloadable content does not mean it was scraped from the full game so that the developers can make $$$ off of you. That's a preconceived notion that way too many people have nowadays.

edit: Season passes are still loving stupid though, I don't care if it's a season pass for a good game or not.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jun 4, 2014

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Fair Bear Maiden posted:

They actually said there was "potential" for DLC before release. It was pretty much always a given they'd work on it eventually. I honestly don't get this attitude anyway, you absolutely can have DLC for a complete product.

Yeah I don't get it. It took me 40 some hours to beat the first time on a blind playthrough and I've spent 200 hours on the game. It's not an incomplete game at all.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
The Sunken King area looks like it borrows a bit from Lost Izalith in terms of textures.

I think the probable existence of DLC could be inferred from the back side of the monument in Majula, which basically screamed "this will have a purpose eventually but not right now." Another possible intro mechanism is that huge book in the Majula mansion.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Clearly the portal to the DLC will be that door in the bastille that opens to a solid concrete wall with a skeleton embedded in it.


how did you even get in there skeleton

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Ice Fist posted:

No. No. Please. ANYTHING ELSE. Not THIS!

Prepare to die.

kazil posted:

Yeah I don't get it. It took me 40 some hours to beat the first time on a blind playthrough and I've spent 200 hours on the game. It's not an incomplete game at all.

Yeah, meanwhile most FPS games you can beat in like 8 hours. :confused: A single run of DS2 takes like 20-40 hours, and there's tons of replay value between ascetics, NG+, different builds, multi, etc.

Dark Souls 2 had tons of content and some DLC is a great thing.

I can understand hating DLC because most devs get it totally wrong. From Software does it right though; they're mini-expansions.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jun 4, 2014

Coolwhoami
Sep 13, 2007

Zedd posted:

Just google translate:

quote:

Modification of the phenomenon that she can move at high speed
Modification of the phenomenon that she can move floating in the air

This makes me tremendously happy.

Nibble
Dec 28, 2003

if we don't, remember me

Suitaru posted:

The base game talks a lot about Vendrick's end, and I suspect these DLCs will shed more light on his beginning. It sounds to me like something from Crusader Kings - like, Vendrick went a-conquerin', and either killed the kings before him or made them his vassals. Presumably these actions were before he invaded the Giants' homeland.

I've always wondered if these other kings we hear about only ruled over smaller areas, or if they ruled over all of Drangleic, but at a different point in time. It seems plausible to me that the Old Iron King ruled Drangleic from the Iron Keep until his downfall, whoever ruled Heide did the same until their castle sunk, and Vendrick came along after them and built a new, slightly more inhabitable castle.

I do like how the concept of a sunken king ties in with DkS1 lore, too.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Cowcaster posted:

Considering the Dark Souls 1 dlc spells became hexes in this, watch them introduce a new category of spells called something like "fey magic" or some poo poo.

Gonna cast the hell out of some "Butterfly bead " with my rainbow wand.



(Now I know what my second wizard-y character is gong to be called/look like, by the way.)

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Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

CJacobs posted:

They said they didn't expect there would be any, not that there wouldn't be any.


Then, shortly before the game's release, they said this:


I seriously can't fathom how anyone is disappointed by this news. Just because a video game has downloadable content does not mean it was scraped from the full game so that the developers can make $$$ off of you. That's a preconceived notion that way too many people have nowadays.

edit: Season passes are still loving stupid though, I don't care if it's a season pass for a good game or not.

The vibe I get from this change in position is they initially didn't intend to do DLC, but at some point midway through development they realized they had some areas they wouldn't be able to finish in time, so instead of letting the work they'd already done go to waste or trying to jam those areas in half-finished they decided to polish them up for a DLC release.

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