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Verranicus posted:Genji does not immobilize himself. Yes, I know, I wasn't talking about Genji. He was already covered by "reflects" before I went on to discuss another, similar mechanic.
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Ravenfood posted:. I've got the same problem. I love the skin, but goddamn am I a bad Widowmaker. All i want are the Zarya and Mercy skins. I like them. I'm good with them. Please Blizz.
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Aug 3, 2016 23:45
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Hace posted:Genji is very balanced and easy to counter though?? He probably could have 2 seconds chopped off his ult and be much more reasonable tbh
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Macaluso posted:KOTH picks can surprise you sometimes though! That's not a bad team at all. Roadhog and D.Va are difficult to kill and draw a lot of attention, freeing up your Junkrat and Tracer. Widowmaker should be going at least 1 for 1 -- and at worst she's drawing off someone from the enemy team to go deal with her instead of helping to burn Roadhog and D.Va down. And I think this is the crucial part, Ana is an excellent tank healer. You can't really miss either of these two tanks and she has the best throughput in the game. Ana heals for 75 hp/sec if you nail every shot and can amplify that even further with jarate. Mercy heals for 50. If your team is running two or three tanks then you should strongly consider picking Ana.
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Aug 4, 2016 00:02
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Honestly, if we're talking Genji nerfs, he could stand to lose the ridiculous range of his ult melee attacks. His health should also probably be dropped to 150 like Tracer since even a bad Genji is every bit as mobile as she is and a good one makes her irrelevant outside of KOTH contest spam.
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I'm blind and can't find the Canada flag player icon. Please send help.
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Canemacar posted:Honestly, if we're talking Genji nerfs, he could stand to lose the ridiculous range of his ult melee attacks. His health should also probably be dropped to 150 like Tracer since even a bad Genji is every bit as mobile as she is and a good one makes her irrelevant outside of KOTH contest spam.
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theres no canada hero so we don't get a flag.  bummeror, in oforums terms: blizzard this is a SLAP IN THE FACE please stop TREATING us like SECOND CLASS CITIZENS
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Aug 4, 2016 01:18
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I'd like to see annoying genjis have to worry about the same instant-death threats as tracer with 150 health, but I'm worried about the overall impact a nerf would have because you know all the weeabos will leave him and slam pick hanzo
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Aug 4, 2016 01:29
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Mei isn't canadian anymore because there's a 15% tax.
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Soothing Vapors posted:theres no canada hero so we don't get a flag. Is it the same guy who was slapped in the face Mr Gaz?
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Aug 4, 2016 01:35
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THe only people who think Genji is fine are genji mains or people who play with a genji main
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Stupid question, but when I get killed by Hanzo the kill cam will often have him aimed a good 5 degrees away from where I am, but when I tried him I land a shot 5 inches in front of a guy and it plinks off the wall. Is this some visual effect of lag in the replay, or does he have some aim-assist factor that I don't know how to use? On PC if that matters.
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MUSCULAR BEAVER posted:I'd like to see annoying genjis have to worry about the same instant-death threats as tracer with 150 health, but I'm worried about the overall impact a nerf would have because you know all the weeabos will leave him and slam pick hanzo I hate to tell you this but this already happens and will continue to happen as long as Hanzo remains in the game.
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Bruceski posted:Stupid question, but when I get killed by Hanzo the kill cam will often have him aimed a good 5 degrees away from where I am, but when I tried him I land a shot 5 inches in front of a guy and it plinks off the wall. Is this some visual effect of lag in the replay, or does he have some aim-assist factor that I don't know how to use? On PC if that matters. Replay fidelity is imperfect, yeah.
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Soothing Vapors posted:theres no canada hero so we don't get a flag. Slap a lumberjack skin on Genji and he becomes a de facto Canadian. Pretty sure Genji is Canadian anyway. Sword -> Axe Small sword -> Hatchet Ninja stars -> Saw blades Robot suit -> Plaid shirt + Jeans + Boots + Tuque
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Just a word of caution: If you manage to to Lucioball and swap heroes, do NOT pop your ult if you land on roadhog. drat thing nearly crashed the game instance.
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Yeah the ranking baffles me. I go from 55 to 50 and think "Ok i guess thi sis my natural state" and then I'll kick rear end and go up to 55 again. What the hell. It seems less a measure of your ability or skill and more a lottery on making sure everyone else has comparable skill to you whether that is good or not.
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i think the thing is that the zone from like 40-60 is the lion's share of "bog standard average overwatch skill", so fluctuating wildly within that range is to be expected. it's only once you start tipping over 60 or dropping below 40 that you start consistently finding people who are genuinely highly skilled or genuinely rock chewers.
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Jastiger posted:Yeah the ranking baffles me. I go from 55 to 50 and think "Ok i guess thi sis my natural state" and then I'll kick rear end and go up to 55 again. What the hell. It seems less a measure of your ability or skill and more a lottery on making sure everyone else has comparable skill to you whether that is good or not. The problem is that the skills ratings don't cover a wide enough range imo. I think they should widen up the bell curve a little. Make it easier to get rank 1 and 100 if you truly are that bad and good, instead of now, where there are only a handfull of players worldwide anywhere near the extremes.
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Cowcaster posted:i think the thing is that the zone from like 40-60 is the lion's share of "bog standard average overwatch skill", so fluctuating wildly within that range is to be expected. it's only once you start tipping over 60 or dropping below 40 that you start consistently finding people who are genuinely highly skilled or genuinely rock chewers.
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Well it means a player at 58 is probably as skilled as 50 since it is so crowded in there. I think thats silly and poorly done. It also means that the really good players cant break out and the really bad ones dont get dropped out so you have this mish mash of roullete that determines whether you can or cant break out.
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Hahahahaha http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20747905428?page=7#post-134 . Scroll down for the blue post.
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Ravenfood posted:This is one reason ranking everyone from 0-100 when the ranks 40-60 are almost 70% of the population is a little silly. Add more granularity to that system and you'd probably see fewer wild rank changes, or at least more rapid stabilization. At the very least, maybe it'd reduce the perceived frustration. They probably wanted a nice normal distributin of ranks and forgot/didn't care that if you scale it so 100 is 3-sigma then you also get 70% in 35-65.
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Aug 4, 2016 04:19
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Honestly, rank is more of an indicator of your ability to communicate and coordinate rather than your ability to shoot mans.
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Well it IS kinda lovely you cant buy thr item out right. Put the poo poo in boxrs for the 1.50 or have it for sale for like 7.50. Gamble on boxes or buy it outright done deal.
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The more I see people rage out over random cosmetic boxes the less sympathetic I find myself becoming towards them. Like yeah, I guess it's lame? But goddamn, they're cosmetics and they don't matter, if it seems like a lovely deal to you then don't buy loot crates, problem solved, whether or not you have a new Zarya skin isn't actually going to make you play any better.
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Duck and Cover posted:Hahahahaha http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20747905428?page=7#post-134 . Scroll down for the blue post. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BpI_I3NNm8 Sometimes you need to roflstomp some newbies as Bastion with the precision that only a mouse can give you.
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Soothing Vapors posted:Seems pretty reasonable to me. It's about 1000x more reasonable than people screaming "but think of the children!"
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I honestly don't understand why people are getting so worked up about their ranking in a shoot-mans game. 
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Soothing Vapors posted:Seems pretty reasonable to me. Papercut posted:It's about 1000x more reasonable than people screaming "but think of the children!" Lies and misdirection generally does. It's pretty amazing horse armor was $2.50; people now are fine with spending $15 for a skin (not me, idiots), oh but that's not good enough let's charge 1 to infinite dollars because we can. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Aug 4, 2016 |
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Kai Tave posted:The more I see people rage out over random cosmetic boxes the less sympathetic I find myself becoming towards them. Like yeah, I guess it's lame? But goddamn, they're cosmetics and they don't matter, if it seems like a lovely deal to you then don't buy loot crates, problem solved, whether or not you have a new Zarya skin isn't actually going to make you play any better. It's really irrelevant that the items impact gameplay mechanics, even though there's an argument to be made that the visuals/silhouettes are a mechanic. The cosmetics are a functional part of the game that is blocked behind a gambling based paywall at worst. At best it's a timed rng pool as part of a larger pool that is obviously there to keep people playing. Blizz didn't add it in for no reason.
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TG-Chrono posted:It's really irrelevant that the items impact gameplay mechanics, even though there's an argument to be made that the visuals/silhouettes are a mechanic. The cosmetics are a functional part of the game that is blocked behind a gambling based paywall at worst. At best it's a timed rng pool as part of a larger pool that is obviously there to keep people playing. Blizz didn't add it in for no reason. Limited, random, no-good-guarantees lootcrates are obviously a transparent attempt to milk as much money out of their playerbase as possible, I don't think anyone can really dispute that. I also agree that they could have done any number of things to preserve the limited "gotta get'em while they're hot" nature of them while improving the overall QoL of them. At the same time as someone who used to be into Magic: the Gathering back in my insanely idiotic youth, a game where the random gambling nature and inflated secondary market prices were actual gatekeepers of whether you could compete at higher levels or not, pay-to-random cosmetics that don't affect gameplay in the slightest seems like a pretty silly hill to plant a flag on. It's lovely the same way all gambling is fundamentally lovely but they're completely up-front about the deal you're getting and if it seems like a bad deal then the solution is to not buy any lootboxes. The amount of sheer outrage this whole thing is generating is grossly disproportionate to the amount of impact your ability to have McCree wear an American flag actually has, calling cosmetics a "functional part of the game" is technically correct I guess but even the visual/silhouette argument isn't that strong because unless I'm mistaken there's an option for you to simply disable skins and have every character appear as their default look if that's truly an issue, and beyond that it's literally just playing dressup with virtual dolls.
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I don't really care strongly, but it'd be nice if summer boxes were just summer loot, or at least it'd be nice if they didn't dilute the whole "at least one summer item per box" thing with a bunch of sprays and icons. That's my two cents after playing for a few hours tonight and getting a lame spray from my crate.
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Soothing Vapors posted:Seems pretty reasonable to me. 
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The main thing that makes me feel unhappy about the ranking system at this point is, well. This is basically my first FPS. After doing quick play for a while I did my competitive placement and got ranked at 40. At first, play was frustrating, but I've practiced a lot and I feel like my game has really improved. My aim is better, my tracking is better, I'm more confident in my ability to keep track of what's going on and in general I feel like my skill level has risen as a result of that practice (and by now I can use that on most of the heroes in the game). Sometimes strangers even say nice things! But, my ranking is still basically the same. I've managed to climb up to 43, but my winrate is still not too far from 50% and it pretty much just zig-zags up and down without ever really changing much. It all winds up feeling kind of random.
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I feel like I've demonstrably improved as well, and occasionally for some reason I'll get stacked up against people with very low levels (yes I know level doesn't equal skill, but there's nonetheless going to be an experience gap between someone at level 100+ and someone at level 15) and I see people doing things that remind me of me two months ago and it's like dang, I remember the days of being Reinhardt and just slowly backing up with my shield while someone tried getting in my grill instead of murdering them with a fireball and a rocket-powered hammer. At the same time though there are a lot of people playing Overwatch and I'm reminded basically every time I play that a lot of them are a lot better at me, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that I'm in the low 40's because of that. Plus I don't really have the time to sit down every day and devote myself to being the baddest rear end I can be in a video game, so even as I improve I'm still probably not ever going to see truly significant gains, and I'm definitely not blessed with any sort of inherent talent that's going to awaken any day now, so it is what it is.
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