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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I'm starting to think there is a scheme to cut staff in half by combining two departments here. Babies will take building blocks and repeatedly smash them together. Hope this helps. God bless.
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I'm starting to think there is a scheme to cut staff in half by combining two departments here. Middle management loves to show that they are doing something. It is mostly upside to them: anything positive can be attributed to their changes, any negatives can be attributed to the economy or some other external factor.
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Middle managers are kind of like sharks; they have to constantly change poo poo or they sink. The good ones finetune poo poo that already works, the lovely ones implement whatever dumb assed flavour of the day strategic synergy crap the good idea fairy shat down their throats that week. See: Agile, open plan office, most ERP implementations.
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Dec 2, 2017 19:41
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I just received this wonderful email this morning: quote:Hello [Pussy Quipped], 
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Dec 4, 2017 22:00
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Hahaha what the gently caress?  Unless you work as part of the NICS background check system that is so ridiculously uncalled for.
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Dec 4, 2017 22:07
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Pussy Quipped posted:I just received this wonderful email this morning: People will die because you delayed the inspection process, I guess. Sounds like you have a tough job
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Dec 4, 2017 22:07
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Pussy Quipped posted:I just received this wonderful email this morning: I hope you, your supervisor, and HR take his threat against you and your workmates' lives seriously.
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Dec 4, 2017 22:08
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I work in the natural gas industry for a distributor. He works for a utility company. My boss was copied on the email and is the process of raining hellfire down upon them.
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Pussy Quipped posted:I work in the natural gas industry for a distributor. He works for a utility company
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Dec 5, 2017 00:01
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Pussy Quipped posted:Ok yes I blew you off last week, I'm sorry dude. But.... what?! uhhhhhhhhhh Why can't he just passive aggressively resend the same e-mail with [second request] in the subject header. That always sets me off when I get it, even if it's completely justified. holy gently caress that's creepy
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Dec 5, 2017 02:04
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[second request] also does not put you on any FBI watch lists
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I don't send second requests.
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So on the topic of golden handcuffs, my last job (same company, different location) was great. My current job/project sucks rear end. I am very tempted to leave but... the money, the retirement benefits(9% 401k matching), the per diem (if you own a house and are away from it) is soooo goood. I loved working with my old team and stay in touch with them regularly. But after 9 months my new team is frankly a bag of dicks. New Team/project is too large with too many people. Too many chefs want to stir the pot and not enough "gently caress you, you got your pot, this is my pot." As a result, people are making decisions are not necessarily the ones "in the know". I talk to my current supervisor about it and he is all "Well Big Boss said he wants a YYY." Me->Supervisor->Boss->Big Boss (Big for the project.) I've told him(supervisor) before about him needed to push back occasionally and part about being a good employee is telling your big boss when their idea is not going to work. (For the record he is in his 40s, and is the supervisor. I am in my 30s but have been with the company 8 years while he has been around maybe a year or two.) This has led to such gems as:  The big boss man says to do change this procedure to do XXX. That's a nice idea but the corporate procedure does not allow for it. That procedure does not work that way. You need approval from corporate first then you can change it. Even then I doubt they will give permission. Big boss says he needs XXX, we've go to do XXX. I know he says he needs it, but that is not how that it works. Here is a post from our CORPORATE DEPARTMENT BIG CHEESE that says projects are not to deviate from corporate without prior permission. Well we still need XXX because big boss says he needs XXX. Make it XXX. Do you or Big Boss even know what you're talking about? Jesus loving christ. I told you, talk to Corporate. Management needs to talk to management, this is not something you can do on a 'whim'. You need to talk to Big Boss about doing XXX. Okay, I will. Big boss, said you wanted XXX but corporate does not allow for it. What's the deal? Yeah.... we're going to revise this now and we will worry about the corporate side of it later... If you say so...It just seems ironic to me that at my last job our team and others in the project (with about maybe 1/4 of the resources this new project has) were in lock step with one another. And I had daily interfaces with local and corporate senior management. (As in board of directors) I was able to get poo poo done and everyone was pretty happy with my performance. This was at a project that if things did not go well could have huge reprecussions between us and our best client. At a location most people in the company could not have handled. Now at my new project I don't even get to go to the daily schedule meetings. I get stuck receiving and communicating procedural changes from "on high". (Changes that frankly make me look bad since I am the one communicating them.) Additionally, I will get stuff as far as I can get and then my boss inexplicably takes away my deliverable I have been working on for weeks/months to make last minute changes. (Because we must get it pushed through "today" he exclaims.) I'm not "British" but... there is a proper way to help someone out and expedite things beyond just taking items directly from their control then throwing it back in their lap afterwards. (To me that just seems like a huge slap in the face...) loving government jobs.... loving mother fuckers.... Senor P. fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Nobody likes being jerked around, whether they're English (???) or otherwise. I'm not going to tell you, "hey you should be grateful because a lot of us have to deal with all that poo poo AND crappy pay," because if you're hating your job and there's no end to the project in sight that you can look forward to, it will grind you down and do harm to your overall quality of life. Best thing to do is to just start looking for new work. Simply taking steps to extricate yourself from the bad situation will improve your mood, and you might find something out there with similar pay, and/or a project or industry that actively excites you. You're not committing to leave, you're just exploring.
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Apparently a certain large Telecommunications company that years ago sold off most of its cell towers for a quick buck(3.5 Bil or so) and has had to lease access for exorbitant fees ever since has recently laid off a large amount of people. My [family member] that works there is a few years from retirement, and were asked if they wanted to be laid off for severance, and whatever sorry version of almost-retirement that comes with it. Of course, they declined, and now are receiving "additional responsibilities" with the apparent purpose of degrading their (normally exemplary) performance review to get them on the next cut list.  This after hearing about GE loving with 401k investment returns/targets. -- I took the one year match of 401k that I actually put money in and am using it to recover from the burnout from 13 years of [REDACTED] And unrelatedly, if you sell/run web ads, I'd keep an eye out for traffic bursts at the end of third weeks of months (ads are typically sold a month at a time for a certain number of impressions), especially if they all come from the same referrer and follow the same crawl pattern. (Tangentially, heard a persistent rumor much prior of a VP paid some ridiculous amount to run "ad arbitrage" and that they had botnets) Also, having to explain to the soulless HR Obelisk what ones job responsibilities were in a way that leverages a higher severance (then say... TWO loving WEEKS) without outright threatening them is almost impossible, especially without a bloodthirsty lawyer. RubberBands Hurt fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Dec 5, 2017 08:40
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How does one write a handover document when one has not done said work for over six months? 
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Senor P. posted:loving government jobs....
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Convexed posted:How does one write a handover document when one has not done said work for over six months? The same way one writes a monthly status report when one has had nothing to do for that month. 
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Dec 5, 2017 13:11
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Pussy Quipped posted:I just received this wonderful email this morning: That is truly amazing. Thanks for sharing.
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Pussy Quipped posted:I just received this wonderful email this morning: Send that to your hr, their hr, and possibly file a police report
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Am I the only one who thinks that was exceptionally tone deaf and stupid but not actually threatening?
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Volmarias posted:Am I the only one who thinks that was exceptionally tone deaf and stupid but not actually threatening? You are not.
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Dec 5, 2017 16:14
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Volmarias posted:Am I the only one who thinks that was exceptionally tone deaf and stupid but not actually threatening? It could be a threat, and the responsible way to deal with it is as a threat because if it is a threat people are in danger.
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Volmarias posted:Am I the only one who thinks that was exceptionally tone deaf and stupid but not actually threatening? Doesn't matter, poo poo like that shouldn't be allowed in a professional method of communication.
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Volmarias posted:Am I the only one who thinks that was exceptionally tone deaf and stupid but not actually threatening? I don't read it as threatening, but given the chance to nail some rear end in a top hat to the wall over something dumb they said, I'd take that opportunity 100% of the time.
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Suddenly coming face-to-face with the reality that your employer now considers you irrelevant always hurts real bad. You should explore the option of following the example of countless sufficiently experienced government employees and switch to Just Cashin' Checks Mode, either indefinitely or while you look for a better job.
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Volmarias posted:Am I the only one who thinks that was exceptionally tone deaf and stupid but not actually threatening? Not necessarily but if they're going to go tattling like that and then claim being blown off about loving valves is exactly the same as letting a mass shooter get a gun, then yeah the OP deserves to have his turn playing that game.
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Crazy rule: don't say things that could be construed as threats
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Shugojin posted:Crazy rule: don't say things that could be construed as threats don't falsely accuse someone of a serious crime just because you think they're an rear end in a top hat! Jeb Bush 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:no-one's saying that the guy who sent that e-mail is fine, just that filing a police report over it would be real hosed up until it turns out it's not false and I end up on the evening news as someone who "failed to see the warning signs" e: I can already see the GBS thread and everything
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:no-one's saying that the guy who sent that e-mail is fine, just that filing a police report over it would be real hosed up
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Renegret posted:until it turns out it's not false and I end up on the evening news as someone who "failed to see the warning signs" Yawgmoth posted:If you bring the phrase "active shooters" into an angry business email, don't be surprised if the boys in blue pay you a visit. In fact, don't even mention guns or shooting or violence at all in a business email, ever. This is Office Behavior 080.
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by bad you mean...good...yes?
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:this seems like an extremely bad way to make any kind of decision I'm curious, what to you is the right course of action? All I've seen you say is that what other people think is wrong, but what he did was "not fine"
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Hoshi posted:I'm curious, what to you is the right course of action? All I've seen you say is that what other people think is wrong, but what he did was "not fine" you're asking me to explain how you can handle someone sending an inappropriate e-mail without calling the police?
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:you're asking me to explain how you can handle someone sending an inappropriate e-mail without calling the police? No I'm asking what you think the correct course of action to that email is
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Just heard from a colleague in a different department that not only is my department definitely moving to the main site next month, but they've made an offer to someone to take over the long-open manager position therein! Of course I couldn't hear about this from anyone in charge of these decisions, or from the guy who has been ostensibly our boss since April. I have to hear about it second-hand from someone I haven't seen or spoken to in months. So I'm just going to pretend that it's not true (please God don't make me move to the main site).
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Hoshi posted:No I'm asking what you think the correct course of action to that email is so yes, you are in fact asking me how you can handle an inappropriate e-mail without calling the police
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:you're asking me to explain how you can handle someone sending an inappropriate e-mail without calling the police?
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Yawgmoth posted:there is a whopping difference between calling someone a fag in an email and implying in any way that they have or could be involved in an active shooter situation hth the e-mail didn't actually imply that, but that's also besides the point. the e-mail is clearly insanely inappropriate and it would not be surprising to see someone get fired over it! it's also very clearly not a threat, and you shouldn't try to get the cops involved "just in case"
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