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RabbitWizard posted:I'm the hair-transplant at 1:29 I'm the entire audience giggling at 11:15 because the mocap actor is talking to an empty seat edit: tax my dog https://i.imgur.com/OVKV2or.gifv Nicholas fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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G0RF posted:Bored gets halfway there by describing the business model as “Development as a Service.” It would be far more accurate to say CIG’s model is “Monetizing Development Hell”  hahahaha
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Oh my god that looks so bad. They've had to redo all of that by now, haven't they? Well, duh, of course, CIG has fallen into the catch-up Hell. They have to redo the whole game every 2 years, otherwise it looks dated. By the time they've upgraded all their assets and worked on a bit of gameplay, another 2 years has elapsed, and they've got to do it all over again. Most games would simply swallow it and release. Or better: do it the right way, work on gameplay first and finalize the assets/graphics towards the end of the project only. But Chris cannot do that. His entire strategy as a company has been to sell stuff that looks good to attract backers early and fund development. The game has to look the best in its generation at the moment it releases, otherwise the sky will be falling. It's pretty funny when you think about it. He's stuck the company in a dead-end, but still hasn't realized. Nyast fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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SC was always doomed to fail since Robbers is attached but I imagine it would be a lot farther along if someone convinced chris to go with graphics that are stylized as opposed to MUH FIDELITY. You can have simulationist gameplay without rendering every hair surronding your spacemans rear end in a top hat, Chris. Elderbean fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Jun 25, 2019 22:09
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Yeah I have to think at the very least they've had to redo ALL those faces. That mocap looks pretty dated. That's barely up to LA Noir level. Oh no, I was wrong- they did actually release a fully redone version, with the vertical slice from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHR1aEdTA4M Keep in mind that pretty much everything in there is likely faked up demo stuff as well. But, at least they had NPC's running around! PS I really love the idea of all this hurr-durr chest puffing milsim carrier gameplay for a ship that carries 2 loving fighters, it cracks me up how goofy all of it is
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Oh, well... That looks fine, I guess. Still not on the level of Uncharted or anything, but it looks like a modern game at least. So... It's basically COD in space? Doesn't sound awful, but not something I'd be creaming my jeans over. I'm kind of bored with that very linear style of game unless it's really compelling and crazy, like the new Doom.
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My favorite part of SQ42 gameplay is probably when the creepy unexplained voice narrates your inner thoughts whenever you're asked a question.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Oh, well... That looks fine, I guess. Still not on the level of Uncharted or anything, but it looks like a modern game at least. Basically. It would be COD in space if it were released. But it's not released, and the video is all anybody has seen of this latest iteration of the game. Just like the last video, and the video before that. This is CIG's whole schtick- every couple of years they gin up a demo video and try to fundraise and churn up hype over it. In the meantime they take the art assets they're making for these demos and sell them for the MMO, but kind of just kick them out the door without any functionality. Watch closely- you'll see it cut and jump around, and switch from "Live action" to prerecorded scenes constantly. It's extremely on rails and nowhere near being actually done. It is, in a word, fake. It's already over a year old and nothing more has come of it. They seem to be on a 2 year turnaround for these, so likely there won't be another big one this year at the "Con." Just more ship sales and promises. If they actually show somebody playing the game, it will be a first.
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Elderbean posted:SC was always doomed to fail since Robbers is attached but I imagine it would be a lot farther along if someone convinced chris to go with graphics that are stylized as opposed to MUH FIDELITY. It wasn't so much the graphic fidelity for me, but like I expected the game would have hit 1.0 years ago. But like, it would start out really simple, large universe but basic, few ships, no FPS yet, no landing on planets, etc. and it would gradually, reasonably, build up to having all of these mechanics and features over a period of years, but the foundation would be laid down first. It baffles me that Star Citizen didn't go this route.
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Sarsapariller posted:
Right? They have this huge briefing room to brief 2 pilots...
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Right? They have this huge briefing room to brief 2 pilots... Hey, fidelity over quantity! I'll bet those guys really punch above their weight class. Eh? Eh?
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i just realised vertisce's name. its a vertical slice of vertical slice.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Maybe he's saying women are smarter than men I seem to recall there being statistically slightly fewer idiots among women than among men, so it makes sense there would be fewer Star Citizen whales among women.
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Even if Star citizen explodes spectacularly at some point, I fear that it will take it's biggest mystery with it: who is Mirificus? Once this is all just a distant memory, I'll still be wondering who this hero or heroine was that waded through all the bizarre poo poo so we didn't have to.
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Bofast posted:I seem to recall there being statistically slightly fewer idiots among women than among men, so it makes sense there would be fewer Star Citizen whales among women. Lots of traits are expressed more extremely in males than females, both the good and bad ones. Half of the male dna doesn't have a backup from the other parent that can pull you back to the average.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Lots of traits are expressed more extremely in males than females, both the good and bad ones. Half of the male dna doesn't have a backup from the other parent that can pull you back to the average. Yup.
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Sarsapariller posted:Oh no, I was wrong- they did actually release a fully redone version, with the vertical slice from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHR1aEdTA4M Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay reveal - 16M views But it might not be fair to compare SQ42 to probably most hyped game of present, so let's compare it to something smaller. How about this niche game with outdated graphics made (originally) by one person on old computer - Stardew Valley. Trailer 2M views Multiplayer update trailer from 11 months ago - 454k views. Hm, I am sure SQ42 will be smash hit. 
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Lord Stimperor posted:Even if Star citizen explodes spectacularly at some point, I fear that it will take it's biggest mystery with it: who is Mirificus? MAybe it is this guy?? https://twitter.com/NicholiFinest/status/1141388746551627782 reverend crabhands fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Dwesa posted:SQ42 pre-alpha (what else?) gameplay reveal - 262k views All of their engagement numbers have been absolute poo poo across the board for years. They all point to the same conclusion that there are around 30k diehard middle aged neckbeards keeping this whole mess afloat, and the few dozen of us laughing at it all on this dead gay forum. The rest of the gaming community lost interest years ago. But Citizens still think that Store Citizen is THE biggest thing in gaming, and everyone is just waiting for Chris to save a PC gaming industry that was already saved years ago by real companies like Valve and is now bigger than ever.
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I read the text here as being halfway critical of the game before remembering who said it. Like, "Development as Service" is a very apt description of what's happening, they've managed to move directly to the additional monetization of live service games without the pesky "ever releasing the game" part. It'd be a pretty good racket except that apparently the funding is finally going dry. At this rate SQ42 may get released just because they finally have to put out something, but we'd be looking at something more broken than Colonial Marines on Day 1. Not to mention, since it's not really a game designed as an FPS, it'll kinda suck anyway since good FPSes require a lot of design consideration as to the player experience.
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Sectopod posted:Wait, those are not his favourite pornhub videos, those are porn-mods for games? I have no idea wtf all that is ethier... and normally I hate not knowing stuff but this is one of those few times I'm comfortable with my ignorance.
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colonelwest posted:All of their engagement numbers have been absolute poo poo across the board for years. They all point to the same conclusion that there are around 30k diehard middle aged neckbeards keeping this whole mess afloat, and the few dozen of us laughing at it all on this dead gay forum. The rest of the gaming community lost interest years ago. But Citizens still think that Store Citizen is THE biggest thing in gaming, and everyone is just waiting for Chris to save a PC gaming industry that was already saved years ago by real companies like Valve and is now bigger than ever. Was saved, flourished, and is now being slowly choked to death again by corporate horseshit and consumer exhaustion with the software as a service model. Really looking forward to the re-pivot to single player titles. Like Star Citizen! See, Chris was right all along. He was decades ahead of his peers!
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Hav posted:Stopped clock is accurate twice a day. What if it's a digital clock???
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Hav posted:I have suggestions. These suggestions are not things I haven't done before.
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G0RF posted:
This is indeed weird!  It's almost like there's some kind of pattern! Like this has happened before! And that just maybe, if you weren't so hell bent on only seeing "I hope this is the game I always wanted!", that just maybe you could see some sort of a repeating system happening here. A system entirely designed to take your money and not deliver a finished product. But I mean you'd need to really be a super genius to see that so I guess it's time to buy some more space ships. I think I want that Hydra carrier thing! Or maybe that science ship with all the science pods! What? They aren't in the game yet??? What do you mean I don't understand!
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Quavers posted:They should get back together and rubbing again, like back in the old Chris+Derek bromance days Honestly I'm not sure SC would have been as successful if it wasn't for Derek smart the boogie man coming in to help give everybody a common enemy and CIG smartly weaponizing the threat to quickly make this "us vs them" system where you had to save poor lil indie CIG from the horrible terror of Derek. And you help by donating money, and being toxic and hateful. 
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I think you're really, really overstating the influence Derek Smart has.
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Any group that can hate on Scott Manley should also reevaluate themselves. And that's not even going into The YouTube guy who was dying of cancer they attacked, or other people they threatened along the way. There just has to be this time of reckoning where you evaluate the weight of "being an rear end in a top hat for a game" and "really liking this game that does not seem to be ever going to come out". You don't need to be an rear end in a top hat, and people can criticize the stupid game that is in development hell. It's not like the people criticizing it have put it in this situation, the incompetence is coming from inside the loving house.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I think you're really, really overstating the influence Derek Smart has. He really has no influence at all. His blog posts were stolen from other sources and and he took credit for them.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I think you're really, really overstating the influence Derek Smart has. I don't think so. He helped to create a tangible enemy for everybody to stop. Anytime somebody said anything negative they were either Derek or goons, but mostly Derek. He was their grounding enemy. He left mostly, and everybody is kind of floundering around. This however also goes hand in hand with CIG leadership pulling out of social media with their fans too. They basically run the operation like an uncaring publisher now.
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I said come in! posted:He really has no influence at all. His blog posts were stolen from other sources and and he took credit for them. Did you forget that he is a "signal booster" 
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Give it a few years and he'll be putting a vid out called Delays As A Service
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Amazing Zimmo posted:Did you forget that he is a "signal booster" And that he built these forums
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Lowtax and Derek worked side by side, hand in hand. 
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Taking the subreddit temperature today: Thank you CIG for developing server meshing for a game of your scale x. Never been done before! That's true! Because it's a term they just made up! Naive fan asks about possible future sales. Not in this store, citizen. Lots of dreams, lots of pictures. The whales seem to be in a bit of a fantasizing stage, the shock of the last unbelievably broken patch has worn off and the next unbelievably broken patch has yet to drop. How about that wormhole charting?Let's imagine our perfect hype videos!I only have $350 to spend, what are the best two starter ships? Can't get too ambitious with so little money! Oops, a new person actually tried to play the game and is angry because it's hot poo poo on a plate. Downvote and insult him!
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big nipples big life posted:And that he built these forums There were many lol's to be had during that meltdown
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Going back to this, uh, precious individual for a moment -- is there a consensus on what drives this intense and incredibly detailed theorycrafting followed up by a series of questions? Is it just a lonely kid on the playground trying to create a complicated imaginary world where he understands how all the gears mesh together, hoping that someone else will ask him about it? Is it proof of allegiance -- ridiculous theorycrafting shows that he's a Real Star Citizen because no one else would dare ask what CIG (a company that can't make AI, a flight model, working netcode with a mythical "server meshing" breakthrough, or even a partially-complete single-player game) is doing? Is it genuine delusion? (Or is he just taking the piss, doing his version of the "procedural birds" gag, and waiting to laugh at the people who take it seriously?)
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These are men in their 30s and 40s lmao. For real though I want some psych grads to do their thesis on Star Citizen lol. There has to be some oddly specific phenomenon unique to consumerism that causes people to sink so much time and emotional energy into the dream of the perfect product. I feel like all that time spent daydreaming would be better spent on tabletop RPGs or something. On the other hand, it's a hobby with enough weirdos and it doesn't need more guys who want rape in their games. Elderbean fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I think you're really, really overstating the influence Derek Smart has. That isn't how psychology works. It doesn't matter if "Derek" has "influence." You're attaching the verb to the wrong subject. Derek is a name they use to rally around and spite fund. Considering how many times that name has been uttered by the cultists, it's impossible to deny that they use it as a rallying cry. Derek himself doesn't even need to exist. Look at how much mileage religion gets out of the devil.
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zcrow posted:i just realised vertisce's name. its a vertical slice of vertical slice.  It's an obscure sex act that involves homoerotic cyber bears.
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