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Isn't dryer lint also surprisingly radioactive, too? Y'all are cowards. PainterofCrap posted:I have seen what that does to a house. It ain't pretty. We finally remembered to clean ours and the hookup between the dryer and the port in the wall into the crawlspace ducting had scorching on it.  We now have a calendar reminder + empirical test the chimney sweep suggested to us. (Dry towels and time it. Then if you ever think it's slowing down a little dry those same 6 towels again and time it. If it's gone up at all it's overdue for cleaning.) I'm very glad our new house has 6" run of duct between inside and outside.
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I've been eyeballing one of the newer fancy all-in-one ones that have heat pump non-vented dyers and I can't wait to actually buy one.
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Unvented? What happens to the moisture?
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It's like a dehumidifier. It condenses to liquid and goes out the washer drain.
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We have one of those, it's great. There is some humidity in the room when it's running, but that's basically it
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Internet Explorer posted:I've been eyeballing one of the newer fancy all-in-one ones that have heat pump non-vented dyers and I can't wait to actually buy one. For what it's worth, these are frequently installed on sailboats (space considerations, not needing a vent) and they're almost universally hated and torn out for ones with a vent, because they don't get the clothes dry enough. Might work better in non-humid climates / be different for one designed for residential, but I don't think I'd ever go with one.
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I have an LG combo washer/ventless dryer (Lg Wm3488hw) and it takes some getting used to. Honestly if/when we remodel, I'll be replacing it with standard machines without thinking twice about it. This machine was in the house when we moved in 3 years ago and appears to be 5 years old. I was curious to try it out. Here are my observations. Pros
2x - drain pumps ($30-50 ea.) and an hour of your time. 3x - shocks ($60) 1x - cold water inlet valve ($30) and about 30 minutes For my wife and I, I would guess we run a load every day or every other just to keep from amassing a pile of clothes. On laundry days its running all day. Maybe its just this model, maybe they've gotten better over the years.  When we were in Barcelona over the summer, that Airbnb had a pair of bosch machines and they were ventless and they seemed better in terms of performance. From this experience I'll be looking for a standard set of machines at some point when we remodel our bathrooms to accommodate full size machines. I would much rather clean out a lint trap and exhaust hose every now and then vs all the maintenance needed on this thing.
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TrueChaos posted:For what it's worth, these are frequently installed on sailboats (space considerations, not needing a vent) and they're almost universally hated and torn out for ones with a vent, because they don't get the clothes dry enough. I believe that your information may be out of date. There are a few larger, high-end models out. GE, LG, etc. There are also heat pump dryers that are not all-in-one units that are unvented.
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Heat pump dryers take something incredibly simple and add an air conditioner to it. I wouldn't do it unless absolutely required. And all in one's are how I would definitely dry all the jeans and sweaters into 3 sizes too small.
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Verman posted:I have an LG combo washer/ventless dryer (Lg Wm3488hw) and it takes some getting used to. We have the "LG WM3997HWA Ventless 4.3 Cu. Ft." which I think is/was the largest ventless unit on the market in 2019 https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LIAP2ZY Not for sale anymore but that's a picture of it It's been... Fine? The best part is: Put dirty clothes in at night, wake up to clean dry clothes. No intermediary "set a timer or remember to go swap the cold wet clothes to the other machine, probably dropping some of them on the floor" step If we go baby #2 we're definitely getting one of those euro sized 2.0 cu ft models for our master bathroom Strong agree on needing to monitor load sizes on it though, the clothes need excellent air flow to dry in a reasonable amount of time. We also do ~half loads. This is totally fine though due to the dirty clothes in -> clean dry clothes out If your workflow involves doing 12 loads on Sunday then this isn't the appliance for you Hadlock fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Feb 5, 2024 |
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H110Hawk posted:Heat pump dryers take something incredibly simple and add an air conditioner to it. I wouldn't do it unless absolutely required. Eh, I have a bosch and I really like it. The advantage is the same as any heatpump, you're getting more heat per watt compared to a resistive heating element. That makes a big deal in countries where the cost of electricity is high. it also scavenges its own heat, ie : the condenser is pulling moisture out of the hot air which feeds heat back to the process. It uses a moisture sensor to detect when to stop which is probably what causes people issues. Some materials don't wick the moisture to the outer surface and if they're stuck up against the sensor the rest of the load can still be damp when it shuts off. On the like three occasions that happened in the three years I've had it I just pull the offending item and rerun. It's self cleaning aside from the lint trap and has been entirely maintenance free.
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Yeah, I get it that they are overall very cool, I just am pretty worried about the repair and replacement story there. Same with water heaters. With water heaters it's a much bigger issue due to them dying due to non-heat-pump related issues which people are never going to improve on. A regular "bulk heat" (gas, restive electric) ones are very resilient to failure and cheap to repair. Suddenly everyone has to be an HVAC tech to manage these. Moisture sensors leaving clothes damp makes me want to scream - are there ways to override that on heat pump dryers? (Like I can for now on my gas dryer.)
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H110Hawk posted:Suddenly everyone has to be an HVAC tech to manage these. The GE one is pretty clever - the entier sealed system is a field replacable unit. No refrigeration knowledge necessary. But in general, I'm with you on this. They are new to the US, the parts chain is thin, the repair knowledge even thinner, and like many "high effeicieny" appliances (especially water heaters and heating/cooling equipment) the highest efficieny ones don't seem to pay back in the real world as their lab-tested efficiency results often are wildly optimistic and don't pan out in the field where their bespoke parts don't exist on trucks or even local distribution and the techs spend more time opn the phone with them naufacturer than doing work. We're not in a great place with these things right now. The manufacturing needs to shake out and settle on "standard" parts and controls. I really like the heat pump dryers and want to see them do well. Even better if an all in one that I can put in my closet and attach to nothing more than hot/cold/drain and 120v becomes an affordable, serviceable, reliable reality.
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Internet Explorer posted:I believe that your information may be out of date. There are a few larger, high-end models out. GE, LG, etc. There are also heat pump dryers that are not all-in-one units that are unvented. Entirely possible, though the posts above mention similar downsides - I do know the info is current for sailboats right now, not that it means anything for residential!  Hopefully the technology has improved with the high-end models out now. Was more intended as a potential caution with ventless technology. 
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Just give me a single unit air conditioner / heater / water heater / dryer / dehumidifier with a single heat pump and be done with it.
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Tesla does this now on most (all?) of their cars now, I think they call it the octopump
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Motronic posted:The GE one is pretty clever - the entier sealed system is a field replacable unit. No refrigeration knowledge necessary. That is good to know. Really until these are mandated (  I live in California, only a matter of time) and we get some kind of regulation around reduction in waste / mandatory 10-years parts+labor warranties ( living in America) none of this is going to matter. Cars have gotten some of this stuff, but it's not enough. Dr. Eldarion posted:Just give me a single unit air conditioner / heater / water heater / dryer / dehumidifier with a single heat pump and be done with it. Forgot refrigerator! Truly ironic is that I could use a HRV style system to dry my clothes 9 months out of the year and only need to "top up" the heat during the winter months. Even just doing a heat exchanger type thing with some fans would get it done and avoid the need for filtration, but if it truly just pulled in outside air to blow through the drum and straight back out I could dry my clothes "for free." It would need a HEPA filter to not wind up with smog+pollen covered clothes though so heat exchanger is the better choice. Use one of those pipe-inside-a-pipe exhaust/intake pipes like for water heaters.
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H110Hawk posted:Isn't dryer lint also surprisingly radioactive, too? Hah, I had to google this up. Surprise! Very low though, obviously. Electrostatic accumulation of the radon out of the air?? Weird. Back in boy scouts we would use a shitload for firestarters. Maybe huffing all that burning lint wasn't the best.
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Dr. Eldarion posted:Just give me a single unit air conditioner / heater / water heater / dryer / dehumidifier with a single heat pump and be done with it. There is a concept of a "refrigeration rack" used in commercial settings that very likely could translate to this type of thing if only we had actual standards. Which will never happen. (cue the: "Standards are great: there are so many to choose from.")
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Dr. Eldarion posted:Just give me a single unit air conditioner / heater / water heater / dryer / dehumidifier with a single heat pump and be done with it. toilet and refrigerator, too, please
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Arctic blast brand heat pump bidets.
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One central appliance pod that does it all - the same place you poo poo also toasts your bread
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We bought a whirlpool heat pump dryer for when I relocated the washer/dryer to the 2nd floor. Much easier not having to run a gas line and cut a hole in the roof for the vent. It takes longer to dry than a traditional gas fired dryer. But I've got solar and it's effectively free. I'm happy with the decision even if I do need to run two smaller loads that each take close to two hours. Just the two of us doing laundry but I could see it being a problem if you had three teenagers or something.
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That's why I think the all-in-ones could be interesting. If I can just throw in a load on a timer and wake up to a done load, that works for my purposes. Just the two of us as well.
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Upgrade posted:One central appliance pod that does it all - the same place you poo poo also toasts your bread Point the water nozzle up, bidet. Point it down, drinking water!
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H110Hawk posted:Yeah, I get it that they are overall very cool, I just am pretty worried about the repair and replacement story there. Same with water heaters. With water heaters it's a much bigger issue due to them dying due to non-heat-pump related issues which people are never going to improve on. A regular "bulk heat" (gas, restive electric) ones are very resilient to failure and cheap to repair. Suddenly everyone has to be an HVAC tech to manage these. Yes- the moisture sensor can be both overridden using a timed program, or can be calibrated using a 'dryness level' option for all the standard cycles. I agree they're more complicated than the resistive/gas options, but if anything a drier is the simpler implementation of all the things using heatpumps save for fridges/freezers just because the air path is a short run inline between the condenser and evaporator. I think the bosch uses a self-contained module that can be swapped out on-site rather than needing vented/filled. The overriding factor imo is the cost to run. With post-ukraine fuel prices in europe and a push to phase out fossil fuels in general, the slightly higher up front cost is paid back in a year of regular use, and repair under warranty costs about the same between the different options.
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StarkingBarfish posted:repair under warranty costs about the same between the different options. What does this mean? Surely you aren't saying they have the same cost to repair for what should be the overwhelming portion of their service life, which is "out of warranty", or perhaps a very shortened service life because they cost too muchb to repair.
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Che Delilas posted:Point the water nozzle up, bidet. Point it down, drinking water! Bidets are just funny looking drinking fountains
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Hadlock posted:Tesla does this now on most (all?) of their cars now, I think they call it the octopump Yes, the Octovalve, not sure if it has filtered to all Tesla models but possibly, engineering changes seem to move fast these days, faster than Wiki etc. can keep up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_Y#Heat_pump I like Sandy Munro so here's him explaining the Octovalve in case you wanted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGffUODWWSE
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After a lot of swearing and one (unnecessary, with hindsight) freakout that I was shooting water into my walls, I successfully swapped out my shower mixing cartridge. Shoutout to Motronic for telling me the name of that thing so I could replace it!
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Motronic posted:What does this mean? Sorry that's bad phrasing on my part. When I was buying an extended warranty beyond that which was free at purchase cost the same between technologies. I would imagine there are more expensive ways a heatpump drier can break out of warranty but that cost didn't translate to a higher price of extended warranty.
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I have a dream of a service that can do basic handyman stuff and do some basic cleaning stuff. Like someone who doesnt mind painting a wall, washing dishes and replacing an outlet. Or someone who can help me put away tools and organize my garage for $50-75/hr. I've got several days worth of these little jobs and chores and I don't like doing them. Does that exist? How can I hire these handy cleaners?
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Back when my brother in law lived in a 1 bedroom apartment they hired a Task Rabbit to pack all their stuff into boxes at like $50/hr I think all in it was like $300 for six hours one Saturday afternoon It's been probably 5 years since I tried out the app but are you looking for something like that? You could sort by skill, etc. Leaky faucets, squeaky door, house cleaning, food delivery etc Washing dishes seems to be the one thing nobody wants to do, maybe because of liability when a dish finally breaks Hadlock fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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CarForumPoster posted:I have a dream of a service that can do basic handyman stuff and do some basic cleaning stuff. Like someone who doesnt mind painting a wall, washing dishes and replacing an outlet. Or someone who can help me put away tools and organize my garage for $50-75/hr. I've got several days worth of these little jobs and chores and I don't like doing them. I guess it depends on the area how well it would work out for you but there’s an app for it https://apps.apple.com/us/app/handy-com/id604419063
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CarForumPoster posted:I have a dream of a service that can do basic handyman stuff and do some basic cleaning stuff. Like someone who doesnt mind painting a wall, washing dishes and replacing an outlet. Or someone who can help me put away tools and organize my garage for $50-75/hr. I've got several days worth of these little jobs and chores and I don't like doing them. This company had a franchise in my city, I called them up to get a quote for some drywall work and it was competitive with the other quotes I got. They offered quite a range of services, though I don't know if cleaning was one of them. This might fit the bill if they have a location near you. Edit: The company is Handyman Connection. Sirotan fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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Still haven't finished the sink, although I'm nearly there - I decided to leave it out while the electrician work was done. The broken dishwasher and fridge have both been taking away, and the new appliances are ready to go! Except neither of them fit, despite having the same measurements as the appliances they are replacing. So now I get to disassemble the cabinets and replace the 2x4s the previous owners were using to hold up the countertop with something a bit thinner so I can put the dishwasher in, and I have to... I don't loving know, shave the walls for the fridge nook back by a 1/12" so it fits in? That part seems less straightforward. How do I slightly enlarge a fridge sized and shaped wall recession? GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Feb 8, 2024 |
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MarcusSA posted:I guess it depends on the area how well it would work out for you but there’s an app for it Thanks I’m checking them out Sirotan posted:This company had a franchise in my city, I called them up to get a quote for some drywall work and it was competitive with the other quotes I got. They offered quite a range of services, though I don't know if cleaning was one of them. This might fit the bill if they have a location near you. What company?
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GlyphGryph posted:How do I slightly enlarge a fridge sized and shaped wall recession? Bad ideas only: If it's a non-structural wall, just cut out the wall where the fridge will go, leaving the drywall on the other side intact, giving you a ~1.5" deep pocket + however thick your old drywall was; sand and paint the cavity in the wall you've created, maybe add some trim If it's a structural wall, the same as above but just get a structural engineer to approve building what's basically a fridge-shaped window in your exterior wall
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CarForumPoster posted:What company? My bad, apparently I got distracted and forgot to include the link: https://handymanconnection.com/
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