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 e: derail snipes are the worst sorry, have some old Wyse/Dynix library terminals, I legit miss these. Aside from messing around with ascii art on them I did guess the admin password at my school ("DEWEY") which made me feel like a l33t hax0r for 5 minutes, they changed it by the next day.   meanwhile my local library used physical cards for everything right up until the 2000s. The Sausages has a new favorite as of 00:17 on Jan 14, 2024 |
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This is a very cool and good detail for this thread, good job all around, guys
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Jan 14, 2024 00:19
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The Sausages posted:meanwhile my local library used physical cards for everything right up until the 2000s. This is the worst thing that has ever happened to the digital forensics community. It's not encryption, cloud services, or the increase in mobile device security. It's that we can no longer make a great analogy with the recovery of deleted data by comparing it to removing library index cards but leaving the book on the shelf until that space is needed for a new book.
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The Sausages posted:meanwhile my local library used physical cards for everything right up until the 2000s. Card catalog memory unlocked, for some reason my brain just assumed that we all wandered around libraries looking for books until you posted this
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My old library was apparently the second one to get an installation of what's now the dominant electronic library system in Norway? Huh. It's annoying that I can't find any pictures, but I liked the amber terminals they had when I was there as a kid. Something like a Wyse Wy-150, maybe?
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The Sausages posted:
My high school used these until well into the 2000s. They were slow and frustrating to use but good news, they were replaced by some browser-based bullshit that was much slower and even more frustrating to use.
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My high school library had some sort of amber terminals that would crash about every 3rd request. I was a library nerd and knew to just hit the reset button and hope. One day the IT guy was just 100% convinced that they had the Michelangelo virus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo_(computer_virus) he got real mad when i slammed that reset button
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There was no infection.
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The Sausages posted:
These were extremely good and I regret their loss every time I use the godawful browser-based catalogs at libraries these days. Fond memories of sitting at the catalog desk in my little branch library, tracking down Discworld books to request via ILL. Amberpos forever.
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Jan 14, 2024 19:43
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as a non librarian I didn't really notice the gradual death of the card catalog, but I'm sure someone will explain what was lost in the transition to computer cataloging.
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By popular demand posted:as a non librarian I didn't really notice the gradual death of the card catalog, but I'm sure someone will explain what was lost in the transition to computer cataloging. Cards, mostly.
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The like one time in my life I had to use the card catalog (or maybe two times, I swear there was a card catalog puzzle in a Monkey Island game?) it was so hard precisely because I grew up in an area where they had already digitized access by the mid 1980s so I was probably technically using the Internet even earlier than I normally claim
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By popular demand posted:as a non librarian I didn't really notice the gradual death of the card catalog, but I'm sure someone will explain what was lost in the transition to computer cataloging. Card catalogs aren't a better way to find specific things, but they can be a much better way to find new things. It's another way to browse every book the library has, organized by category
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Why would you ever want to find new things, here in the tech relics thread
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I miss card catalogs and wish I owned enough books to make a personal one worth the effort.
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Desert Bus posted:I miss card catalogs and wish I owned enough books to make a personal one worth the effort. I try to avoid buying physical books if they are something that I can read on a Kindle but I still collect books that don't really work as ebooks or are out of print specifically Photography, Cooking and Firearms books. I use a site/app called Libib to track what's in my collection with separate libraries for each topic. I also use Discogs for Vinyl and Gameye for Video Games. While a card catalog would be neat the fact that I can pull up my collections in their respective apps/websites on the go is a godsend to make sure I'm not buying duplicates of something I already have. If you really wanted to you could export your Libib collection as an Excel file and then mail merge print it onto index cards and have a card catalog. Then just make cards for the books you add as you go....
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not sure where to put this but goddamn it's intense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGdPE_C9u8
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LifeSunDeath posted:not sure where to put this but goddamn it's intense EVE Online is one of the sponsors  Just embracing the meme
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EVIL Gibson posted:EVE Online is one of the sponsors lol perfect
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xubbVvKbUfY
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History Comes Inside! posted:Why would you ever want to find new things, here in the tech relics thread 
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my turn in the barrel posted:I try to avoid buying physical books if they are something that I can read on a Kindle but I still collect books that don't really work as ebooks or are out of print specifically Photography, Cooking and Firearms books. I use a site/app called Libib to track what's in my collection with separate libraries for each topic. Apparently the CueCat is great for scanning books and that's about all these days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat
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Desert Bus posted:Apparently the CueCat is great for scanning books and that's about all these days.
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Right now my collection is sorted roughly by author, how much i like them, size, and potential secondary market value? My big worry is cheap shelves collapsing under the weight of all that paper. Some of these books are like half a tree, and wood is heavy. Don't be me, buy good shelves BEFORE you start collecting fist edition hardcovers.
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Desert Bus posted:Apparently the CueCat is great for scanning books and that's about all these days. I used to leave mine behind my PC so that it was a tether light I could use when I needed to crawl under my desk and plug in cables.
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I use a Cue Cat to quickly and easily pay any paper invoices I still get. "Oh you can just use your phone camera and the banking app willNO, NO YOU CAN'T."
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It's a solid piece of tech in a funny form that doesn't really work for the intended purpose anymore.
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Did it ever work for its intended purpose? I never encountered a CueCat barcode outside of the documentation that came with them.
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For what it's worth you can get secondhand purpose-specific USB barcode scanners like they use at retail stores for $10-15 shipped on Ebay, that's what I got when I decided a while back to keep track of my books. Works great except for all the books that predate ISBNs and barcodes 
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What's the ISBN for De Historia Piscium?
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Porfiriato posted:For what it's worth you can get secondhand purpose-specific USB barcode scanners like they use at retail stores for $10-15 shipped on Ebay, that's what I got when I decided a while back to keep track of my books. Works great I think that answers the question I was about to ask: Does a CueCat have any possible benefits over a used Motorola or whatever, or is the only benefit that they were and remain very cheap?
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Since we're talking library management here, I want to derail a little bit to ask if anybody knows of good digital library management software which actually concerns itself with managing the files too. I want to be organize PDFs and ebooks with something that'll allow full-text searching. A nice UI is less important than good metadata & indexing.
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Pham Nuwen posted:Since we're talking library management here, I want to derail a little bit to ask if anybody knows of good digital library management software which actually concerns itself with managing the files too. I want to be organize PDFs and ebooks with something that'll allow full-text searching. A nice UI is less important than good metadata & indexing. Calibre?
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History Comes Inside! posted:Calibre? Is the correct answer. https://calibre-ebook.com/
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Calibre is very good, when I was on my kindle a lot I used it to manage my books. It's got a plugin / process to bring in books I bought from Google Play and let me send them to the kindle, which I used a lot
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History Comes Inside! posted:Calibre? Wasn't aware it does fulltext search, I've been using it for years to manage books on my kindle so I'll explore a little deeper, thanks!
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Computer viking posted:I think that answers the question I was about to ask: Does a CueCat have any possible benefits over a used Motorola or whatever, or is the only benefit that they were and remain very cheap? It's small and lightweight? And powered from USB.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGbHD65z4Ak “The Windows 95 core energy emanating off of this could kill a medieval peasant instantly.” (19:55) 
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I have Calibre set up to decrypt my Kindle books that I download from Amazon. So they're mine forever.
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Pham Nuwen posted:Wasn't aware it does fulltext search, I've been using it for years to manage books on my kindle so I'll explore a little deeper, thanks! Yeah there’s an option in there somewhere that’s disabled by default for indexing the contents of everything you add to the library, once that’s on and it’s had the time to do its thing you should be good to go. The only thing calibre can’t do that I wish it could is set up collections for a kindle. It can do it with plugins and a jailbroken device running an associated collection management homebrew, but I upgraded to a nice new paperwhite last year and it’s not on an exploitable firmware so I’m stuck doing it the hard way with the kindle’s clunky UI.
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