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blk posted:Christ, it's so bad. the worst part is there's no give in creases. somebody doors your car normally, the pannel bends and bends back. They hit right on a "character line" and there's a big loving dent that reflects the light in all sorts of stupid ways and shines like a god drat diamond.
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So people are saying all cars look the same these days? No idea what they're on about, never seen that little window thing before of that little line that kicks up off the rear door before in my loving life.      Is there a 'car design cue' magazine that comes out every year that designers get delivered to their desks or something? "20 hot new ideas for you new boring shitmobile to make it stand out" The BMW gets points for at least playing with the bodyline a bit more than the others. Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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atomicthumbs posted:
What the hell is that? A new Camry?
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And yet, this is still probably the best angle for this POS.
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88h88 posted:"20 hot new ideas for you new boring shitmobile to make it stand out" 
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LionArcher posted:What the hell is that? A new Camry? It doesn't look like a sedan to me. GRIS says Lexus RX.
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Sep 14, 2015 10:18
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I can't get over how fat that thing looks. It looks like a joke car.
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On this page: People almost realising why the new Prius is Cool and Good.Powershift posted:so if they have super secret specs from ford, the GT is going to be amazing, and the raptor could end up being a turd. The Raptor has always been a turd sold to oil field workers as a pre-bro'd brotruck. Anyone who actually gives a poo poo about going offroad has always been better served by a Tacoma or JKU that even after mods costs substantially less and isn't a weak-framed fatass F-150.
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Here you can see the driver texting someone about how awful and bulbous this new nissan turd is. Either that or he's crying deeply. Wheeee posted:
This is also very much the truth.
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Well no one has said anything about offroading except you? Powershift was just commenting on the acceleration from a stop, as it is well know that the only legitimate use for a pickup truck is drag racing. Because what you really need offroad is a high hp high strung small displacement turbo engine. The 10 speed transmission should help the 0-60 times a bit though. Maybe they'll do what VW has done with the Anorak and eliminate low range. because the transmission already has 10 gears?
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Oh I forgot, if you care about offroading and want a giant brotruck the Powerwagon also dumps on the Raptor. I've recently relocated to a much denser region with more urban driving and much better roads which is making me start eyeing up the Fit and the Golf however, so maybe I'm not the best informed source of opinions on which hilariously overpriced and useless compensation truck is more desirable. It's the Escalade
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Throatwarbler posted:Well no one has said anything about offroading except you? Powershift was just commenting on the acceleration from a stop, as it is well know that the only legitimate use for a pickup truck is drag racing. I was commenting on the performance model lacking performance. power and weight determine more than acceleration from a stop. The 10 speed will probably hurt the 0-60 because most modern fords are programmed to dump power while shifting to save the transmission. With a worse power/weight ratio than the average f-150, that 10 speed is just going to be popping up and down the range trying to keep the truck moving with as little effort as possible. The 10 speed is all about fuel economy. besides, if you bought a 94 civic for $3000, you'd have $57,000 to turn it into an offroading machine that would crush the raptor for the same price. The power wagon is dumb because it's a gas 3/4 ton. It can go offroad, but you better hope there's a gas station out there.
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Powershift posted:the worst part is there's no give in creases. somebody doors your car normally, the pannel bends and bends back. They hit right on a "character line" and there's a big loving dent that reflects the light in all sorts of stupid ways and shines like a god drat diamond. Those same creases strengthen the body panel and make it less likely that the shopping cart or whatever damages the sheet metal. Or it allows the manufacturer to make the panel with less metal to save money and weight.
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Funny, there was a Power Wagon at the grocery store last night and I took a pic because I thought it was so ridiculous: I had thought it was some stupid custom job that was like the "Pussy Wagon" from Kill Bill but (slightly) more tasteful. 
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Power Wagon is something I expect a kid's toy to be named.
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I like that "lighter" and "more powerful" makes the new raptor a turd. What is wrong with you? Of course, maybe I'm the idiot, because I actually think the new RX looks pretty great, other than that overhang. Much better than the normal boring CUVs out there. Of course, I like oddball cars, which is why we bought a flex instead of an explorer when we needed three rows.
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eyebeem posted:I like that "lighter" and "more powerful" makes the new raptor a turd. What is wrong with you? it's all relative. when the winks and nudges and numbers from the rest of the line suggested 500hp and 5300lbs, 450hp and 5700lbs is a disappointment. The company that built the supra and soarer is now building the RX. Just like when a company has built the S15 and R34 skyline, the new maxima is a disappointment. They are even now suggesting the Z-car replacement is going to be a crossover.   It would be cool if it was a rally-fighter type deal, but the back end shrouded in darkness suggests it might have too many doors. one of the other teasers shows a prndl and a 6500rpm redline which screams fun.
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Powershift posted:it's all relative. when the winks and nudges and numbers from the rest of the line suggested 500hp and 5300lbs, 450hp and 5700lbs is a disappointment. It's still a real improvement over the old model, and it looks better in my opinion, to boot. I can't find much to complain about when it should be faster, more fuel efficient, and likely more capable. The company that built the supra and soarer also made the corolla and the sc430. Why are you comparing those cars to their new crossover? Maybe that point makes sense if you're bitching about the FRS or rc-f, is-f being the sportiest things in their stable, which is a legitimate complaint. The rx isn't related to that market. The new z will be a disappointment if it is worse than the old z. That's a valid point. The old raptor was, like it or not, a well reviewed success of a vehicle, and if the new one is faster and lighter, I don't see how that makes it a "turd." A disappointment if you were expecting it to outrun a 458 Italia, I suppose. Also, I'm not completely insane. The new Maxima looks like something from a cartoon. In a bad way.
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Wheeee posted:The Raptor has always been a turd sold to oil field workers as a pre-bro'd brotruck. Anyone who actually gives a poo poo about going offroad has always been better served by a Tacoma or JKU that even after mods costs substantially less and isn't a weak-framed fatass F-150. I'm not exaggerating when I say that probably 75% of the Raptors I see on the road are festooned with all sorts of retarded oil field trash stickers
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The only reason to buy a raptor is because someone paid you to buy it and export it out of country for them
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Nodoze posted:The only reason to buy a raptor is because someone paid you to buy it and export it out of country for them Piffle, it ain't shitbox Ford trucks that have a war named after them. No self-respecting warlord would ever buy American.
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Wheeee posted:Piffle, it ain't shitbox Ford trucks that have a war named after them. 
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I like how even the violent fundamentalist militant driving that F-250 doesn't have the tow mirrors extended like a douchebag.
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88h88 posted:Power Wagon is something I expect a kid's toy to be named. It's not a real Power Wagon unless it says "Dodge"  
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Camaro performances numbers are out: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/14/2016-chevy-camaro-performance-figures/#slide-3619751 0-60 in 4.0 seconds with an SS1 AT.
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it's awesome that they're still adding power, and not just coasting by on the weight savings.
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Powershift posted:it's awesome that they're still adding power, and not just coasting by on the weight savings. "gently caress it, let's see how far we can go before they bring the hammer down on us"
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Powershift posted:it's awesome that they're still adding power, and not just coasting by on the weight savings.
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I want to sit in one of the new ones to see how the new interior stacks up. The comments from the press test day make it sound like the interior is a lot better, but outward visibility is still horrendous.
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ilkhan posted:yeah its nice. But you're still stuck driving a Even the 2.0T is getting to 60mph in 5.5 seconds. Why can't we have an engine like that in something with more visibility like... a Miata. Which already does 0-60 in 5.6 or something doesn't it? Imagine how much faster it could be.
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davebo posted:Even the 2.0T is getting to 60mph in 5.5 seconds. Why can't we have an engine like that in something with more visibility like... a Miata. Which already does 0-60 in 5.6 or something doesn't it? Imagine how much faster it could be. Just get the Camaro convertible then
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davebo posted:Even the 2.0T is getting to 60mph in 5.5 seconds. Why can't we have an engine like that in something with more visibility like... a Miata. Which already does 0-60 in 5.6 or something doesn't it? Imagine how much faster it could be. According to FR-S/BRZ drivers, because it would ruin the purity and balance and blah blah blah.
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PT6A posted:According to FR-S/BRZ drivers, because it would ruin the purity and balance and blah blah blah. I would actually consider buying a used FRS/BRZ if there was a V8 swap kit for it.
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TODAY IS YOUR LUCKY DAY! http://shop.weaponsgradeperformance.com/products/wgp-brz06-frs-brz-ls-swap-kit
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PT6A posted:According to FR-S/BRZ drivers, because it would ruin the purity and balance and blah blah blah. No, for the miata drivers it's "purity and balance". For the FRS/BRZ drivers it's "because 200hp is enough, almost too much"
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Wrar posted:TODAY IS YOUR LUCKY DAY! 8 grand and they can't even be bothered paint the brackets? Maybe I'll wait 15 years, just before they get cheap enough for the drift car scene to ruin them.
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MustardFacial posted:8 grand and they can't even be bothered paint the brackets? Maybe I'll wait 15 years, just before they get cheap enough for the drift car scene to ruin them. I can't imagine a FRS's third owner bothering to change spark plugs at 100k miles.
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Powershift posted:I can't imagine a FRS's third owner bothering to change spark plugs at 100k miles. The gently caress do I care? I'm just going to dump the engine and drop in an LS3 anyways.
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At that point why not just buy a used corvette, it'll probably cost the same
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Mange Mite posted:At that point why not just buy a used corvette, it'll probably cost the same You get more than a value proposition when you buy a Corvette, you also buy into the 'culture' and you can't escape. Some people don't want that.
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