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boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

they should let players take missions hauling other players' ships and toons around

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wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor
story happened and people got trolled, sadly goons didn't do the trolling.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/04/elite-dangerous-community-plan-event-upended-by-masterful-troll/

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

holy crap how did we not hear about this sooner?!

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

quote:

“Yes, I had anticipated her death,” wrote Wagar of Salomé in his blog. “Clearly that was a highly probable outcome. Personally I was hoping she would make it. She had a speech all ready to go—she liked speeches. That will never see the light of day now because you changed the story. But this wasn’t scripted, there was only preparation for as many eventualities as we could foresee.”

tl;dr - you nerds ruined my event and killed my space-waifu so I will never let you read my awesome speech because YOURE NOT WORTHY :argh:

Conskill
May 7, 2007

I got an 'F' in Geometry.

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

tl;dr - you nerds ruined my event and killed my space-waifu so I will never let you read my awesome speech because YOURE NOT WORTHY :argh:

And she had to be in some arbitrary location in the middle of the Bubble to give her speech in a setting with instantaneous FTL communications. Let's not even talk about that fantastical invention of the sci-fi universe called the pre-recorded phone message.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
:qq: MAI WAIFU :qq:

Phuzun
Jul 4, 2007

Well I hope the Quince passenger miss keep working through the weekend, at least. Gonna get my anaconda A rated, get a bit of slush and work on engineering. Pretty happy with my 400m in assets (all but like 30m from Quince lol). Though if they take longer, I'll have to get a python, since it's all the rage.

Maybe they fix it so you have to visit the appropriate beacons, which would mean that you just board scum harder. Or they flat out destroy in system passenger missions.

Honestly don't understand the grind in this game. The PvP is decided by engineering and teaming up in wings. And they actively throw roadblocks at new players with limiting how money is acquired, even in multicrew. For all the people that just play solo, I imagine they will drop the game when X4 is released or Star Ci... Well X4. Hell, if X3 had VR, I'd be playing that and running my virtual space trucking fleet, building stations, and enjoy the spoils of my riches.

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

holy crap how did we not hear about this sooner?!

Like on event day, when we were all watching Potter's kill video and talking about it...?

edit: oh wait :thejoke: nvm

edit2: Man I'm really not in the mood for Quince grinding, but in the process of turning my mining Cutter into a top tier warship I very quickly went from spacerich to spacepoor. Now I need like 30 million more spacebux for my last module upgrade. Ugggggggh. :smith:

Trustworthy fucked around with this message at 01:11 on May 2, 2017

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Phuzun posted:

Well I hope the Quince passenger miss keep working through the weekend, at least. Gonna get my anaconda A rated, get a bit of slush and work on engineering. Pretty happy with my 400m in assets (all but like 30m from Quince lol). Though if they take longer, I'll have to get a python, since it's all the rage.

Maybe they fix it so you have to visit the appropriate beacons, which would mean that you just board scum harder. Or they flat out destroy in system passenger missions.

Honestly don't understand the grind in this game. The PvP is decided by engineering and teaming up in wings. And they actively throw roadblocks at new players with limiting how money is acquired, even in multicrew. For all the people that just play solo, I imagine they will drop the game when X4 is released or Star Ci... Well X4. Hell, if X3 had VR, I'd be playing that and running my virtual space trucking fleet, building stations, and enjoy the spoils of my riches.

They're just calling it an exploit to please the grogs, like every other time. It will stay in until the next major patch because they don't actually care and want new players to take advantage of the :turianass: exploit :turianass: so they buy more ships and spend real money on paint jobs, purple lasers, and expansions.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Conskill posted:

And she had to be in some arbitrary location in the middle of the Bubble to give her speech in a setting with instantaneous FTL communications.

Why is everyone paying me to courier data around

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

That feeling when you swap into your battleship, fly to a res, drop in, go to launch your fighter and are reminded you didn't stop by the crew lounge in your haste to be underway :o:

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

holy crap how did we not hear about this sooner?!

We were aware of it, and we decided it was going to be an absolute poo poo show (and it was, oh it was), for a multitude of reasons, only one of which is that one of the people who claimed to be defending the waifu killed her instead. Other reasons it was a poo poo show include the defenders organisation treating everyone who didn't want to play exactly their way really bad, banning people who dissented, and banning Russian players because they may be spies. (No, really)

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



I think events like this would hugely benefit from controlled leadership next time. FDev makes and quasimanages a "main group" for either side that players can sign on with. Let people start splinters if they want but make sure there's a moderated way for people to team up. We had plenty of "insiders" playing the escortees. Next time lets get a few of them in the leadership.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

They're just calling it an exploit to please the grogs, like every other time. It will stay in until the next major patch because they don't actually care and want new players to take advantage of the :turianass: exploit :turianass: so they buy more ships and spend real money on paint jobs, purple lasers, and expansions.

Yeah, I mean I am really quite casual as a player and I made many millions in Quince tonight, enough to buy an Orca (I lost everything about a month ago, so from zero to this pretty much) and the only way I feel I might be exploiting is sometimes I log out and back in to refresh the mission board. I don't feel like it's an exploit that the beacon is a 30 second flight from the station, that's just the game environment.

I'm just going to keep plugging away at it, boosting an Orca into the slot is awesome as well, it's a fun grind to me :)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I hope we get a full fledged alien invasion next expansion

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal

Fojar38 posted:

Why is everyone paying me to courier data around

Because some corporations and governments need to send sensitive data from one place to another, and they've decided that--although they're probably using advanced encryption--sending one physical copy still poses less risk than transmitting it to the entire galaxy...?

I mean it's not rocket science (except for the parts with rocket ships).

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

Trustworthy posted:

Because some corporations and governments need to send sensitive data from one place to another, and they've decided that--although they're probably using advanced encryption--sending one physical copy still poses less risk than transmitting it to the entire galaxy...?

I mean it's not rocket science (except for the parts with rocket ships).

Confirm: you're basically space DHL or the equivalent to a legal firm's bike messenger.

Kilravock
Jan 27, 2006

We are the hollow men

Trustworthy posted:

Because some corporations and governments need to send sensitive data from one place to another, and they've decided that--although they're probably using advanced encryption--sending one physical copy still poses less risk than transmitting it to the entire galaxy...?

I mean it's not rocket science (except for the parts with rocket ships).


Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Confirm: you're basically space DHL or the equivalent to a legal firm's bike messenger.

Beaten.

Even with things like the internet, email, digital scans, conference calls, texting, smart phones, etc, some jobs still require a physical copy to be shipped like legal contracts that need to signed, witnessed, notarized and transported, often very quickly. This may also include physical items that are time sensitive or something else like organs. Plus data encryption can be beaten, or you have to worry about moles if it's dealing with stuff that is critical like classified information.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Fojar38 posted:

Why is everyone paying me to courier data around

Along with everything mentioned before, radio transmissions can only travel at the speed of light. A ship with a frameshift drive moves much faster.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

Colonial Air Force posted:

Along with everything mentioned before, radio transmissions can only travel at the speed of light. A ship with a frameshift drive moves much faster.

I can chat with friends from thousands of lightyears away, in realtime.

e: oh I should probably delete that before FDev implements another immersion timer

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
Warrant Scanners explicitly call into a galactic database at FTL speeds.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

DatonKallandor posted:

Warrant Scanners explicitly call into a galactic database at FTL speeds.
And yet for some reason I can't even look up what's on sale one station over in the same system without flying to it

Anime Store Adventure
May 6, 2009


DatonKallandor posted:

Warrant Scanners explicitly call into a galactic database at FTL speeds.

I would assume that because fines and bounties are added automatically that there's some Pilots Federation Computer in every ship that you're actually scanning as opposed to calling into a database.

OR Frontier has no cohesive idea about a lot of the rules of the world and just changes poo poo as is convenient. Just like they want to do Thargoids and are acting like it's all new even though it has happened in the game universe before and we're wiped out by a virus or whatever. Except now they're making "first contact" because Elite Dangerous is both a reboot and not a reboot.

But seriously, if you scratch the paint off of any attempt at lore, history, or even consistency of the "natural laws" of the universe, you'll find its surface deep and inconsistent at best. I'm not sure they even have an official "lore."

Overwined
Sep 22, 2008

Wine can of their wits the wise beguile,
Make the sage frolic, and the serious smile.
Quantum entangled communications could explain it easily.

I mean not why you can't see market prices one system over, but whatever.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Whelp I just spent the better part of an hour flying over a huge 2G planet trying to line my ship up with specific coordinates... to get a 132k data package.


Thanks, a "tip off".

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I have noticed that a bunch of these generation ships were wiped out by meteor-borne viruses which I would assume has something to do with Thargoids

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

here's William Gibson's take on the need for couriers in a connected world, from Virtual Light

The offices the girl rode between were electronically conterminous-in effect, a single desktop, the map of distances obliterated by the seamless and instantaneous nature of communication. Yet this very seamlessness, which had rendered physical mail an expensive novelty, might as easily be viewed as porosity, and as such created the need for the service the girl provided. Physically transporting bits of information about a grid that consisted of little else, she provided a degree of absolute security in the fluid universe of data. With your memo in the girl's bag, you knew precisely where it was; otherwise, your memo was nowhere, perhaps everywhere, in that instant of transit.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I was cooping with a friend in Merope, killing federation ships via imperial expedition jobs and I'm very close to unlocking the imperial clipper. I'm flying an A class FDL, should I bother getting the clipper?

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Maybe local market data is deliberately only available locally so as to prevent tremendous outside interference with local markets?

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal

Glenn Quebec posted:

I was cooping with a friend in Merope, killing federation ships via imperial expedition jobs and I'm very close to unlocking the imperial clipper. I'm flying an A class FDL, should I bother getting the clipper?

Depends on what you want to use it for...?

There was a time when I used my Clipper a lot, with extended fuel tanks that let me do hassle-free Sothis runs without a scoop. It's still my long-range freighter, although I rarely need one these days. It's also my go-to ship for running Powerplay MacGuffins, on that rare occasion I'm in the mood for that.

So yeah, it's a nice, quick, light freighter. If you need one of those, buy it. You can turn it into a good miner, too (although I prefer my Python in that role).

I can't imagine it could hold a candle to the FDL for combat ability, in any way, under any circumstances. Sometimes I fancy turning a Clipper into some kind of gimmicky glass cannon--a lightning quick, hit-and-run interceptor--but I doubt it could fit the firepower to make that kind of build viable.

Trustworthy fucked around with this message at 06:35 on May 2, 2017

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Fojar38 posted:

Why is everyone paying me to courier data around

My take on this is the same as with random fetch quests in MMO's: everyone is sending you off to do busywork because they are terrified of you and it's a quick way to get rid of you.

Let's say a dude comes to your station in a Mad-Max style battleship, pocked with bullet holes and loaded with every weapon imaginable. He rolls up to your office and he's basically The Rock if his biological father was a loving demon- 8 feet of ugly muscle, knives strapped to every conceivable surface and a couple that would be inconceivable to think about, if you weren't so busy thinking about the tattoos- one across his left arm saying "gently caress" and one on his right arm saying "YOUR poo poo." Over his shoulder in the back of his Anaconda, you can spot the smoking remnants of three of your neighbor's ships just kind of jammed in there. Over his other shoulder, oddly enough, you also see his Anaconda- appearing on the nightly news for what the bottom crawl says is some kind of "Legendary Massacre" near the vicinity of your local star. He stares down at you, and you silently pray to whatever gods you still believe in that you will survive this day. After about a minute of this, he says "Hey, uh, got any jobs?"

...

"Oh yeah sure, absolutely, uh, just run at the nearest living thing and kill 10 of it. I'll give you 100 bucks when you get back."

Thus was the MMO quest established.

Sarsapariller fucked around with this message at 06:36 on May 2, 2017

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
holy poo poo check out all this loving backstory for a character that was just killed off in lore by a member of a russian troll guild named Harry Potter

https://www.drewwagar.com/progress-report/profile-senator-kahina-tijani-loren/

Kilravock
Jan 27, 2006

We are the hollow men
The Clipper is a cheaper, faster, more maneuverable, and longer ranged Python that is limited by it's large landing pad requirement. Makes a great long range light/medium trader and ideal miner. People like it as a pirate ship, but it's not for bounty hunting or CZ's. If it could fit on a medium pad it would be a great mission ship.

I keep mine mainly because it's fun to fly in both super cruise and normal flight. You can run away from almost anything, and it's an easy ship to win that interdiction mini-game. So you can play the mini-game or submit and boost away.

Give it a fuel tank and it has long range, and it needs a fuel tank. It has good jump range too. It's also easy to fit a large fuel scoop if the fuel tank is not enough.

It can haul more cargo than an AspX, but less than a Python. It's large landing pad requirement kills it as a main mission ship, but it's great for the missions that it can do.

It also overheats too easily on planets and is hard to land at times. The slot is dangerous so don't boost through it and be lined up for it.

When you get access to other ships, it just becomes a trophy ship like the iCourier.

Kilravock fucked around with this message at 06:51 on May 2, 2017

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?
Nothing rams like the flipper.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Faulcon DeLacy Python is the fighter that killed Salome. Its almost perfect balance of speed, maneuverability, and defensive shields make it the ship of choice for Diamond Frogs, except when the mission profile disallows it. In addition to 4 Utility Mounts, the Python can carry a number of Torpedo Pylons. It's powered by four Class 6 Thrusters, and requires an on-board goon for peak performance

Kilravock
Jan 27, 2006

We are the hollow men
Not saying the Clipper is better than the Python. Just cheaper and faster if you have the rank for one. But yeah the Python seems to be the fad ship for the DF right now.

Drake_263
Mar 31, 2010
Also a fair thing to remember is that the core chassis price for the iClipper is about 34M cheaper than the Python (~22M for the iClipper, ~56M for the Python) - for the prince of a fresh out-of-the-box Python, you can afford a Clipper, fit it, and still have enough left over for several rebuys.

That said, the Clipper is an awesome ship - I'd say it shares its role with the Python, as in, a flexible multipurpose vessel with a distinct slant towards combat - with a distinctly Imperial flavor with the ginormous primary engine cell, a tendency to drift like hell, and powerful shields paired with a hull made out of pixie dust and unicorn farts. Very fun, very deadly ship to fly, I spent several months in one and I'm tempted to buy a new one to fart around in.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Tippis posted:

Speaking of which, has anyone got any good data on the updated rewards? All I have to go on is the EDDiscovery messages, which seem to suggest a ~5× increase for metal planets, and that's about it… which seems both weird and excessive.



This is the one that I've been using for system scan data estimations. My horde of data-scanning minions hasn't told me how far off the estimates are, but the number of data bombs and lack of complaints indicates that it's probably not super far off.

Voyeur
Dec 5, 2000
I like to watch.

mrmcd posted:

Whelp I just spent the better part of an hour flying over a huge 2G planet trying to line my ship up with specific coordinates... to get a 132k data package.


Thanks, a "tip off".

You might find this site useful. Makes finding coordinates on the surface a whooole lot less annoying.

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Warrior Princess
Sep 29, 2014

What?
I love everything about how the Keelback sounds. Boost: *HONK* and the engines just sound like constant explosions.

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