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Midnightghoul posted:BfA felt extremely unfinished and began with some utterly perplexing design decisions, to the point that most are calling the upcoming patch 8.1 the real launch of the expansion. It's not just that though. The dev's (see Ion's) response to complaints about stuff in BfA is "gently caress you I know better". The dude clearly wants the game to be more like Vanilla. I mean he responded to a thing about azerite gear problems by saying (paraphrased) "if anything we'd make it more restrictive".
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Nov 28, 2018 05:42
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During the beta people brought up tons of issues and when the expansion dropped, months later, the same issues were still there. The game was pretty grindy if you actually wanted to use the gear you got, like a gear upgrade would be unusable unless you played a shitload, mostly in a game mode that is awful and unfun. It was not great, I only played for a few months until my gold ran out and my sub ran out.
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Nov 28, 2018 05:43
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Macaluso posted:It's not just that though. The dev's (see Ion's) response to complaints about stuff in BfA is "gently caress you I know better". The dude clearly wants the game to be more like Vanilla. I mean he responded to a thing about azerite gear problems by saying (paraphrased) "if anything we'd make it more restrictive". That too. Ion is extremely bad as the face of the product with how abrasive and cocky he can be.
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Nov 28, 2018 05:46
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Boy, I'd never expect that from the former GM of Elitist Jerks. 
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Nov 28, 2018 06:05
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WoW has the interesting problem of having two core groups of players who want completely opposite things. Sprinkle current Blizzard dev culture on top of that, and you get a recipe for disaster.
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Nov 28, 2018 06:11
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ToastyPotato posted:WoW has the interesting problem of having two core groups of players who want completely opposite things. Sprinkle current Blizzard dev culture on top of that, and you get a recipe for disaster. That's literally all mmos though: rear end in a top hat established players who don't like the idea of new people having it easier, and people who want to expand the game who want it to be easier to get geared and stuff
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Nov 28, 2018 06:15
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Me last week: "Hell yeah!!! I've finally saved up 1600 shards to get Janitor Leoric when he comes out!!!" Me today: 
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Nov 28, 2018 06:18
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Dire Human posted:Me last week: "Hell yeah!!! I've finally saved up 1600 shards to get Janitor Leoric when he comes out!!!" It'll go down to 1600 in a couple weeks.
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Nov 28, 2018 07:14
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SirSamVimes posted:It'll go down to 1600 in a couple weeks. Yeah, although they’ve gotten a bit lazy at these kind of things. It used to be two weeks on the dot, now it seems to be”two weeks minimum and then whenever there is a new content patch”. It’s a cool skin, but I doubt I will part with the Space Lord. I just love humming the Monster Magnet song whenever I pick Leoric.
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Nov 28, 2018 10:41
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ToastyPotato posted:WoW has the interesting problem of having two core groups of players who want completely opposite things. Sprinkle current Blizzard dev culture on top of that, and you get a recipe for disaster. That's the thing though, BfA is kind of pissing off everybody. The really hardcore players are finding themselves having to deal with things like ridiculous gold charges for simply wanting to switch between tanking/healing/dps traits on their gear for example. More casual players are looking at completely ridiculous grinds for rep and dumb things like how now every single pet is sold via pet tokens instead of some of them with tokens and some with gold. Those that are still somehow into faction conflict stuff are pissed at how it's being handled on both sides. People that aren't into the faction conflict are annoyed it's a huge part of the story in BfA and it's constantly as stupid as we've assumed it would be. And all that stuff is dumb but what ends up actually making people angry is Ion's response to complaints to it all, which is always some form of "we know better than you, you'll play the game anyway bitch". Blizzard can't please everyone, but they are doing the opposite and just making everyone mad. There's plenty of good stuff to be found in BfA, the zone specific stuff is generally really good, the art is amazing, some of the new characters are great like Bownsamdi. It all just kind of gets buried under all the other stuff as well as Ion's lovely responses to everything. I've never seen the WoW playerbase so unified under their anger of an expansion even though WoD is probably overall still the worst expansion.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:52
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I've been playing HotS 2.0 for about 2 months now. The biggest issue I see is that too many heroes are 10k gold. When I first played about 3 years ago, it seemed a regular occurrence for a hero's gold price to drop, but in the last 2 months Zarya has been the only one to drop that I can recall. IMO every time a new hero is released, another 10k hero should drop to 7k and/or a 7k hero drop to 4k. Thats all I would need to say its fair.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:01
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Macaluso posted:There's plenty of good stuff to be found in BfA, the zone specific stuff is generally really good, the art is amazing, some of the new characters are great like Bownsamdi. It all just kind of gets buried under all the other stuff as well as Ion's lovely responses to everything. I've never seen the WoW playerbase so unified under their anger of an expansion even though WoD is probably overall still the worst expansion. This is what really sucks rear end for me, the zandalari and zandalar itself own, finally getting mag'har orcs made me super happy, I like the new areas and the art design on the locales and a lot of the smaller things happening, but being a big dumb RP person, the entire expansion plot is hot garbage, it's yet another played out faction war story that won't really be satisfying for anyone because the conflict is between the two player sides so nothing truly decisive can ever be allowed to happen, for a whole lot of RP people it only hurts the setting more as it further pigeonholes you into being boring dopes as Alliance or ~morally grey~ as Horde, they're liable to kill off another major character or two by the end of this which woopee glad we keep shearing down the cast and then replacing them with [To be announced] over and over, also the gearing situation blows, just man, there's been like nothing good on the horizon for this entire expansion for me.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:15
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They seem to have a quota for Horde warchiefs to die each expansion.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:50
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You still can't play as two races that were advertised as a selling point To unlock any of the allied races you need to either grind outdated content that a new player won't even know about, or grind two reputations that are split based on which faction you are playing. So to unlock both you need to grind a 120 alliance and 120 horde. Also the story content stops after you grind to revered, the second to last step before unlocking the new races so you just do lovely world quests for weeks. Also for some reason these world quests give 75 rep instead of 150 like typical world quests. The island expeditions, another selling point of the expansion, has no tutorial on how to get rewards. From player research it was found that you need to hunt and kill rare monsters on the island and then you get a small chance to get an item AFTER you complete the island, not even when you kill the monster, reducing feedback and creating a disconnect to the reward system. Also the chances are so low that people thought they were bugged at first launch. Warfronts, another selling point, are just PVP battlegrounds with the PVP element removed. You fight NPCs and are time gated depending on if you bought your siege towers fast enough. I've only done two of them but the rewards are nothing special, maybe current normal mode raid tier? Also only one faction can do it a week, and there's only one warfront in the game so far so one faction sits on their hands for a week while they wait. Raid finder still sucks for people like me who play at odd times, the average player can't do mechanics that are more complicated than DPS and get out of bad poo poo on the ground. The last boss has a mechanic where you have to carry an orb and toss it to your teammate because it slows you to a stop. Players will ignore the flashing ground which indicates where the orb will land and will blame you for stopping.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:35
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Can we take the WoW whining back to the designated WoW whining thread please? In HotS news: They've extended the deadline to buy Wonder William, objectively the best mount in the game, by a month. I love him but I'm a Lunara main, so I'm now petitioning for a Wonder Lunara skin. floofyscorp fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 17:51
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stop nerfing blaze, god damnit
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Nov 28, 2018 19:45
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Hmm these patch notes. So Genji has like Cassia range now and Yrel is probably trash tier? She's can't heal off minions now.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:48
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whoa massive yrel nerf
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Nov 28, 2018 19:50
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But hey at least they lowered Mal'Ganis's basic attack damage by like 2% 
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Nov 28, 2018 19:51
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Heck yeah Alarak buffs also heck yeah genji nerf that isn't just damage numbers. Good on them for quickly nerfing the CD on orphea's stun ult (it should have been at least 70 to begin with)
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Nov 28, 2018 19:51
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Yrel's Q still heals her regardless of if it hits anything, so she's still got plenty of sustain available to her. The difference now is that she can't use the Heal-On-Basic-Attack-After-Casting talent from Level 1 unless she hits a Hero with the ability, forcing her to actually pressure her opponent instead of just focusing on whacking minions.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:53
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Kith posted:Yrel's Q still heals her regardless of if it hits anything, so she's still got plenty of sustain available to her. The difference now is that she can't use the Heal-On-Basic-Attack-After-Casting talent from Level 1 unless she hits a Hero with the ability, forcing her to actually pressure her opponent instead of just focusing on whacking minions. it also means that 1) she can’t quickly duck into an empty lane, clear it and incidentally heal to full and 2) if she bullies the opponent behind the gate, she loses her sustain and can’t heal off the damage that she took bullying or from enemy minions/towers. Huge nerf.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:55
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Oh yeah, I'm aware it's a huge nerf. It's a good one too because Yrel has been dominating the off-lane meta for a while and I've been really loving tired of it.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:58
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Yrel is piss boring to get stuck against
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Nov 28, 2018 20:04
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Oh my god these changes are so good. Love the comment on thw deckard change, and why did these hanzo and genji changes take YEARS??? They're finally addressing the right things.
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Nov 28, 2018 20:05
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The only way I've been able to deal with yrel is just pushing her poo poo in with fenix, the best off laner
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Nov 28, 2018 20:07
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The actual headline here is nerfing Abathur’s ability to be a cool off-healer with no advantage. Abathur rework soon goddamnit
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Nov 28, 2018 20:08
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Yeah that's a big Yrel nerf and might actually make the offlane playable again.
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Nov 28, 2018 20:21
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New QM not much better than old QM now that Nova is classified as fulfilling the mandatory ranged dps role. First game after long queue, is me as Lunara with double tank and Nova (with monk heals) vs. Diablo, Orph, Hanzo, Murky, Lili on Curse. And of course the Nova isn't some unusual one trick, they have the worst stats of the match and are worse than a bot.
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Nov 28, 2018 20:52
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Also big Hanzo merc nerf
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Nov 28, 2018 21:45
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So it seems the "BONUS XP" is bugged. Is you select a support while the XP boost is active, you WON'T get the boost if, when the game ends, the XP boost is off. Also lots of "LOL 3 assassin vs 0 assassins" matches..
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Nov 28, 2018 22:19
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Its always exciting to see in what way QM breaks after they mess around with the rules
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Nov 28, 2018 22:26
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All of their QM MM issues pretty much point to the main issue that their hero classification and balance is loving awful.
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Nov 28, 2018 22:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8uS-KJX2w Stitches rework inbound Not sure why he gets one over, say, Chen or Tass, but sure why not.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:42
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Stitches is one of those cool characters who can fit a lot of roles and whose slam build has made the devs scared because he's not a formal tank/bruiser/assassin/dps. It's just like specialist cleave kerrigan getting reworked to be a formal melee ganker. Somebody on the team really likes the idea of fitting heroes to formal roles and thinks it makes the game better when in truth these roles are all made up in the first place. Expect a Stitches that only has tank build.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:53
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I wish Kevin did a reaction video to the Carbot video.
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Nov 29, 2018 00:48
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kevin should be the next nexus original hero
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Nov 29, 2018 00:59
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Speaking as someone so very, very bored of seeing Genji, despite enjoying his playstyle - I can't say I'm upset. Medivh continues to fly under the radar as OP as gently caress and I love it. 
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Nov 29, 2018 01:32
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:The only way I've been able to deal with yrel is just pushing her poo poo in with fenix, the best off laner This is interesting because a few weeks ago I was watching Fan as Yrel say she dumpsters Fenix in lane, then he proceeded to demonstrate exactly that. Then later in a game I tried to do the same thing but... I'm not Fan.
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Bodacious posted:Not sure why he gets one over, say, Chen or Tass, but sure why not. People play Stitches. I wish there was more to it than that, but there isn't.
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