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Speaking of sleeving cards, I've been playing the Ascension: Apprentice Edition and the phone version and have determined that I like deckbuilders. What's worth getting foe Ascension or other games? I know about Dominion, of course, but that looks a little more complex than I'd like (and don't want to risk getting sucked into the vortex of 500-card expansions).
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Evil Mastermind posted:Speaking of sleeving cards, I've been playing the Ascension: Apprentice Edition and the phone version and have determined that I like deckbuilders. What's worth getting foe Ascension or other games? I know about Dominion, of course, but that looks a little more complex than I'd like (and don't want to risk getting sucked into the vortex of 500-card expansions). You might enjoy Race for the Galaxy. It's not technically a deck builder, but it's very similar and has the same ease of just being one big deck of cards that everyone plays from like Ascention
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Dec 3, 2015 21:40
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Nah, you want Dominion, trust me. It's the original and it's the best. I've gotten one play of Legendary Encounters: Alien through with my girlfriend and we loved it, so if you like the idea of a co-op survival deckbuilder, do check it out. Other people in the thread will recommend Valley of the Kings and [/b]Eminent Domain[/b] probably.
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Dec 3, 2015 21:41
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I actually have Race for solo play since it had a lot of recommendation. Really shouldn't have bought the second and third expansions, though.
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Dec 3, 2015 21:47
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How can you play Ascension and then decide that Dominion is too complex? Like, almost every other deck builder is just adding bells and whistles to the Dominion base.
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Dec 3, 2015 21:50
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Dominion is incredibly simple and designed in such a way to eliminate as much potential confusion as possible. Every turn is ABCD, Action(s), Buy(s), Cleanup, Draw. Not much more to it, especially with Base where most if not all cards are pretty self-explanatory. Definitely recommend it if you have any interest at all in deckbuilders.
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Dec 3, 2015 21:59
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Gimnbo posted:How can you play Ascension and then decide that Dominion is too complex? No true. Most of them also remove important safety features like limited amount of buys and action. It still remains to be seen if Dominion would make a better phone game than Star Realms though, because the randomness of the market row increases replayability against AIs. We may never know though.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:04
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Gimnbo posted:How can you play Ascension and then decide that Dominion is too complex? Mainly I don't want a game that's going to balloon.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:07
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The way kingdoms are laid out in dominion means that essentially every time you play there's a very rules-learning phase as you figure out what each card does. Then it's off to the races.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:11
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Evil Mastermind posted:I haven't played Dominion, I've just gone on BGG and read the instructions. Admittedly I checked out the "combined rules" that has everything, so I probably scared myself off by doing that. Dominion is only as complex as the cards that get selected, since you only choose ten cards to play with each game out of however many expansions you have. Honestly, the cards are pretty straightforward through Prosperity (skipping Alchemy), card interactions don't get too crazy until Hinterlands. What we're all saying in other words is get Dominion if you like deckbuilding, it's still the best pure deckbuilder out there.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:18
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BonHair posted:No true. Most of them also remove important safety features like limited amount of buys and action. Androminion has been on phones a long time and it is still replayable, even with AI that likes to buy Rats without any way to leverage them. Star realms is just frustrating no matter what. That random market row is super awful with the massive amount of variance of how good a card is in the game.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:19
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Impermanent posted:The way kingdoms are laid out in dominion means that essentially every time you play there's a very rules-learning phase as you figure out what each card does. Then it's off to the races. In market row deckbuilders you have the same thing. since you need to read the first six or whatever cards that are initially available and figure out what they do. The difference is that in market row games, you then need to parse a new card every turn, while keeping in mind what the previous cards all do, which are no longer face-up in the market available to be reread at any time. Until you get to Hinterlands/Dark Ages/Adventures, Dominion is by far the simplest deckbuilder in terms of rules. Even with the later expansions I can't really say it's any harder to learn to play than Ascension. (It's ultimately harder to play well, but that's because it has actual strategic depth, which is a good thing.)
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Dec 3, 2015 22:24
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Plus you can have a good time with a base set or intrigue. One or two expansions will keep you busy for a long time
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Dec 3, 2015 22:29
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Idk maybe its that I've spent too much time playing the expansions but core-only Dominion (almost said Netrunner) is a little dull to me once you've figured out the basics. Once you get some expansions going then it's a lot more interesting since there's more variety to the core strategies- there's lots of engine-type strategies but Villiage/Vault and Hamlet/Menagerie play totally different from each other.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:37
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The only flaw Dominion has when compared to something like Valley of the Kings is that it takes longer to set up and tear down. (Also Valley of the Kings does a better job of introducing newbies to Why Trashing Is Important.) edit: and yeah once you've played played expansion dominion you do not go back to just base. It just isn't the same. I never take dominion back home for the holidays because all I can fit in a small space is the base game and I don't want to play that.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:38
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Sleevetalk: I have been very happy with just the KMC Perfect Fits. They are used for 'inner sleeves', but using them as the only sleeve is pretty a-ok. They're like ~3c each though, but drat do they fit really well and also don't add a bunch of bulk like normal sleeves do. KMC perfects + hyper matte is probably how you can hermetically seal your cards if you are worried about actual air circulating over your deckbuilder cards or something!
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Dec 3, 2015 22:41
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GOONY POST APPROACHING I feel like Perfect Fits are slippery in my gross sweaty hands and I just don't like holding onto a hand full of 'em for very long. the Hypermattes feel PERFECTO. The Hypermatter Blacks are a little more flexible than the Clears, so they are a little easier to shuffle without the corners constantly pwning your hands edit: also I don't like the glare on the perfect fits. I have my AGoT cards sleeved in hypermattes but the double-sided house/banner cards are in perfect fits and I'm literally BLINDED by the perfect fits sometimes if I'm playing underneath an overhead light, i'm almost 100% certain that all of my game losses have been due to that fozzy fosbourne fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Dec 3, 2015 22:53
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How easy is riffle shuffling (I know, I know) with Perfect Fits? I want to sleeve my cards but I also love to riffle shuffle.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:54
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StashAugustine posted:Idk maybe its that I've spent too much time playing the expansions but core-only Dominion (almost said Netrunner) is a little dull to me once you've figured out the basics. Once you get some expansions going then it's a lot more interesting since there's more variety to the core strategies- there's lots of engine-type strategies but Villiage/Vault and Hamlet/Menagerie play totally different from each other. I'll agree base-only Dominion is pretty bland once you've played with expansions, but I think even a single expansion is enough to spice it up. I had just base/Intrigue/Seaside for almost five years before I finally caved and started picking up more expansions, and I'll still happily play with just those sets.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:58
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fozzy fosbourne posted:GOONY POST APPROACHING Hypermatte is the good poo poo, accept no substitutes
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Dec 3, 2015 23:01
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I also like the KMC perfect fits and they are what I used to sleeve my copy of Legendary Encounters: Predator. The extra border of most other sleeves annoys me, although I've gotten used to my Mage Knight cards being sleeved by the FFG sleeves. I really dislike the little sticker on all Ultra Pro sleeves.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:20
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While we're talking about Dominion expansions, is there any guide on which ones are the best?
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Dec 3, 2015 23:27
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memy posted:While we're talking about Dominion expansions, is there any guide on which ones are the best? Puzzle Strike.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:28
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memy posted:While we're talking about Dominion expansions, is there any guide on which ones are the best? Haven't played Adventures, but the best buying order is: Base -> Intrigue -> Prosperity -> Hinterlands -> Seaside -> Guilds -> Cornucopia -> Dark Ages -> Alchemy All of the promos are cool and good except Black Market.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:33
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Lichtenstein posted:Puzzle Strike. Yesss
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Dec 3, 2015 23:41
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Is the Terra Mystica expac a good addition? I'm looking for an Xmas gift for friends who own the base game.
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Dec 3, 2015 23:57
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memy posted:While we're talking about Dominion expansions, is there any guide on which ones are the best? Adventures Dark Ages Prosperity
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Dec 4, 2015 00:07
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memy posted:While we're talking about Dominion expansions, is there any guide on which ones are the best? There isn't a strong consensus that I'm aware of. The only constant is that pretty much everyone loves Prosperity and hates Alchemy.
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Dec 4, 2015 00:49
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I did my copy of Legendary Encounters Alien with Mayday Slightly more than a penny sleeves. Really nice quality and fit. Strikes a good balance for something that gets shuffled a lot.
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Dec 4, 2015 00:50
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I feel like laughing. Who is the worst board game reviewer on YouTube?
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Dec 4, 2015 01:27
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There is this one guy that wears like tuxedo gloves or something while playing and it's creepy as hell. Calandale reviews are entertaining but a little NMS IMO
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Dec 4, 2015 01:29
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MrDru posted:I feel like laughing. Who is the worst board game reviewer on YouTube? Rutibex's avatar.
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Dec 4, 2015 01:36
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Millions posted:Is the Terra Mystica expac a good addition? I'm looking for an Xmas gift for friends who own the base game. If they like the base game, then yes.
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Dec 4, 2015 02:40
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xpac adds highly necessary way to auction off races and more poorly-tested, imabalanced races (But your friends are probably used to this.) It's great for people who like Terra Mystica and waiting forever for stickers to fix an imbalanced game.
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Dec 4, 2015 02:42
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The variable network bonus and player turn order also own. Variable turn order is the best
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Dec 4, 2015 02:48
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Blood Rage is viewed pretty favourably here, yes? I have Chaos in the Old World and Kemet but am trying to assess if this is as good as either or just redundant. Thoughts? It looks good and I'm probably ready for something similar but different to Chaos assuming it's relatively balanced and not too heavy on the randomness.
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Dec 4, 2015 02:49
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Blamestorm posted:Blood Rage is viewed pretty favourably here, yes? I have Chaos in the Old World and Kemet but am trying to assess if this is as good as either or just redundant. Thoughts? It looks good and I'm probably ready for something similar but different to Chaos assuming it's relatively balanced and not too heavy on the randomness. Biggest issue was really that it was a CMON kickstarter with a bunch of exclusive bullshit. It's a very good game and the KS stuff was not all that critical.
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Dec 4, 2015 02:53
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Yeah I'm trying not to be captured by the hype this time (eg BGG gushing). The play time of 90ish minutes is something that is encouraging, so I don't have to choose between playing it and Forbidden Stars if I get it.
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Dec 4, 2015 03:01
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MrDru posted:I feel like laughing. Who is the worst board game reviewer on YouTube? Lichtenstein posted:If you thought Tom Vasel is insufferable, check out these paragons of tabletop entertainment coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsmx6D1IXpE
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Impermanent posted:xpac adds highly necessary way to auction off races and more poorly-tested, imabalanced races (But your friends are probably used to this.) It's great for people who like Terra Mystica and waiting forever for stickers to fix an imbalanced game. The imbalance of Terra Mystica is highly exaggerated
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