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Beast just saw the end of the universe in the Black Vortex story so I'm sure that will change his outlook a bit.
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It sounds like it's just a vacation destination for mutants with compromised judgement.
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Mar 27, 2015 20:18
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So, been reading a lot of current stuff and listening to Rachel and Miles. Really regret not giving xmen a shot earlier. Since I powered through all of what is on unlimited from the current run, and going back to giant sized #1 seems too daunting (and silly Claremont leprechauns) I decided to start with Grant Morrison's run on New Xmen. Is Cassandra Nova as dumb as I feel like it is or does it get better?
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Mar 27, 2015 22:22
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Aphrodite posted:Beast just saw the end of the universe in the Black Vortex story so I'm sure that will change his outlook a bit. None of the Black Vortex is going to effect anything.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:24
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lokipunk posted:Is Cassandra Nova as dumb as I feel like it is or does it get better? How far along are you?
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Mar 27, 2015 22:34
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Wheat Loaf posted:How far along are you? Not super far. Smashing man just talked to some cows.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:39
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Nova has one of the strangest and coolest character arcs in the series 
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Mar 27, 2015 22:41
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lokipunk posted:Not super far. Smashing man just talked to some cows. Have you read the issue with no dialogue? I can't remember if that's before or after that.
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Mar 27, 2015 22:55
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lokipunk posted:Not super far. Smashing man just talked to some cows. That scene is where the current Smasher got her powers if you've been reading Hickman's Avengers.
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Mar 28, 2015 00:28
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SirDan3k posted:None of the Black Vortex is going to effect anything. It's running through X-Men, it has to affect it a bit.
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Mar 28, 2015 01:48
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Wheat Loaf posted:Have you read the issue with no dialogue? I can't remember if that's before or after that. Yes, that was super awesome and bizarre. I am excited because Seinkiewich inked one of the upcoming books and I love his stuff. I admittedly know nothing about cosmic marvel aside from bird jerks and guardians movie, so when the books intersect I get confused.
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Mar 28, 2015 02:59
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So CBR posted a big ol' interview with Axel Alonso, which wrapped up with this:quote:Alonso: The X-Men office is taking the opportunity of "Secret Wars" to build an entire new world for the characters -- to create a shared universe within the X-books that's set off by a huge event/incident/surprise. At that point, they're going to introduce a new team that feels unlike anything you've seen before. It'll be... "extraordinary." It sounds to me like the X-Men might not even be part of nu-616 or whatever we get post-Secret Wars, but I guess we'll see.
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Mar 28, 2015 04:02
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A Tin Of Beans posted:So CBR posted a big ol' interview with Axel Alonso, which wrapped up with this: I was already thinking something like that could be a longshot possibility, so this is interesting. It makes a certain sort of sense, the mutant world has always pretty much been treated like this anyway. Have the attempts to integrate mutants with the rest of the world really worked, other than a few characters who were already integrated, like Beast? How's Uncanny Avengers doing?
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Mar 28, 2015 06:17
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lokipunk posted:So, been reading a lot of current stuff and listening to Rachel and Miles. Really regret not giving xmen a shot earlier. Since I powered through all of what is on unlimited from the current run, and going back to giant sized #1 seems too daunting (and silly Claremont leprechauns) I decided to start with Grant Morrison's run on New Xmen. Is Cassandra Nova as dumb as I feel like it is or does it get better? I wouldn't let Claremont weirdness factor in to your decision to not go back that far, because his weirdness was mostly contained for like the first five years and even after for a few more yeats, it's mostly stuff you can just shrug your shoulders at or ignore an issue here and there. But yeah it really is a lot to go through. I feel like you can start at Dark Phoenix Saga (and like a little before it), read the issue after, then skip everything until Cyclops comes back, then read 20 issues after that and really have the charactarization that's kind of the "standard" for these characters. Then if you want more of what I feel like is good Claremont, read Days of Future Past (constantly referenced), God Loves Man Kills, X-Men: Asgardian Wars (I feel like this is the story where it's easiest to decide if you care about the Madeline Pryor can of worms or not), Mutant Massacre, Inferno (optional,mostly, unless you decided to want to see how the Madeline thing worked itself, but overall kind of bad), X-Tinction Agenda (might want to skim through some of X-Men in the Outback for some context to this), and The Muir Island Saga (just to see how he wrapped everything up).
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Mar 28, 2015 07:09
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A Tin Of Beans posted:So CBR posted a big ol' interview with Axel Alonso, which wrapped up with this: I'm down with this. I can definitely see how it could make for better stories.
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Mar 28, 2015 07:38
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Rick posted:But yeah it really is a lot to go through. I feel like you can start at Dark Phoenix Saga (and like a little before it), read the issue after, then skip everything until Cyclops comes back, then read 20 issues after that and really have the charactarization that's kind of the "standard" for these characters. Then if you want more of what I feel like is good Claremont, read Days of Future Past (constantly referenced), God Loves Man Kills, X-Men: Asgardian Wars (I feel like this is the story where it's easiest to decide if you care about the Madeline Pryor can of worms or not), Mutant Massacre, Inferno (optional,mostly, unless you decided to want to see how the Madeline thing worked itself, but overall kind of bad), X-Tinction Agenda (might want to skim through some of X-Men in the Outback for some context to this), and The Muir Island Saga (just to see how he wrapped everything up). Those story lines are also all collected unlike the first weird San Francisco era with Spider-woman, and most of the outback era, which I love, because it's where I started reading comics, but most people can skip.
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Mar 28, 2015 07:42
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Yeah Outback is really special to me too, also because that's when I started.
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Mar 28, 2015 11:08
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A Tin Of Beans posted:So CBR posted a big ol' interview with Axel Alonso, which wrapped up with this: I think it's more they are separating things again. For a while there was a rule that the X-Men went off and did things in their own bubble and AvX was supposed to change that. Wolverine and that would appear in other books but for the most part everybody ignored the X-Men and let them do their thing. The more the X-books interact with the greater Marvel Universe, the worse they are so it should be better than what we currently have.
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Mar 28, 2015 12:26
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Yeah I remember back in the day when all the 'properties' were pretty well segregated off into their own little corner of the universe and didn't intersect too much. I definitely like the interconnected MU but the X-men always seem to suffer for it.
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Mar 28, 2015 14:40
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I think the part about X-Men is that it seems like the best solo books are when the mutant characters go off and do non-mutant things. Magneto's current solo book, while yes he is basically mutant Punisher, is basically reaffirming his status as a villain since he has clearly been a hero under Fraction, Gillen, etc... for the last several years. Gambit and Storm's solo books, both of which I greatly enjoyed, are them off doing their own thing mostly independent of the Jean Gray School/mutant stuff. In contrast, Nightcrawler's solo book might as well be called Nightcrawler and his Amazing X-Men because that's what it is. It isn't flat out bad but I enjoy it a lot less than Storm's solo book. VVV X-23's solo book is another great example of her getting out of the shadow of Wolverine and other C-list teenage X-Men and doing her own thing. In fact, I think that's part of why I hate Uncanny Avengers because not only does it play into a lot of the X-Men book general themes, but it quite literally spells it out for you like in that stupid as hell Havok speech. But otherwise I like X-Men character as Avengers when they're allowed to operate as Avengers rather than THE MUTANT ON AN AVENGERS TEAM. notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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Mar 28, 2015 14:50
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Dreqqus posted:Yeah I remember back in the day when all the 'properties' were pretty well segregated off into their own little corner of the universe and didn't intersect too much. I definitely like the interconnected MU but the X-men always seem to suffer for it. Interconnected MU gave us X-23 Adventures in Babysitting the Future Foundation. The biggest problem with the interconnected MU is that the "X-Men as minority victims" doesn't work in the larger context, yet every writer seems to think that they're the one to make it make sense. There's a lot of cool stuff people could do but nobody does it. If you'd told me ten years ago that Thor and Asgard could have interesting stories that interacted with the greater MU I'd think you were crazy too.
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Mar 28, 2015 14:51
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Shawn posted:Those story lines are also all collected unlike the first weird San Francisco era with Spider-woman, and most of the outback era, which I love, because it's where I started reading comics, but most people can skip. Outback era is collected now; it's in the Inferno Prologue hardcover.
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Mar 28, 2015 15:55
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Brood Saga was always a big favorite of mine. Not just because of the amount of Carol Danvers in it. I'd say early Claremont is probably the least weird. He doesn't get off the rails until the late 80s I'd say.
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Axel Alonso just tweeted that the X-men would remain an integral part of the marvel universe, which is a big disappointment for me, because I think the X-men severely need a complete reboot and a continuity enema. As it stands now it's completely unapproachable for new and returning fans. When I heard the announcement that the Xmen would have their "own world" I was thinking I would check it out after secret war, but I guess it's just some cheap convoluted gimmick. So I guess I go back to not wanting to touch that mess with a 10 ft. someone else's dick.
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Mar 28, 2015 21:51
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I can announce that I am writing the Rockslide ongoing post-secret wars
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Mar 28, 2015 21:53
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Are there any mutants whose bones are made of something weird? I'm asking for artistic purposes.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:09
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Squizzle posted:Are there any mutants whose bones are made of something weird? I'm asking for artistic purposes. Angel's bones are supposedly hollow. Wolverine had adamantium grafted to them. Uh, that's all I can think of.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:15
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:Axel Alonso just tweeted that the X-men would remain an integral part of the marvel universe, which is a big disappointment for me, because I think the X-men severely need a complete reboot and a continuity enema. As it stands now it's completely unapproachable for new and returning fans. Reboots don't fix anything. You are not forced to know the 500+ backissue history for every character. DC keeps rebooting over and over again and their continuities immediately become dogshit again because editorial is terrible. Good editorial + good writing is all that is needed.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:18
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So I'm reading Uncanny X-Men and All New X-Men because gently caress you comics don't make me read like 4 different series at the same time to get a coherent story (Avengers I'm looking at you too!!!). Why did no one acknowledge what Jean Grey pointed out that Scarlet Witch is a genocidal monster and she should be put on trial way way way before Cyclops (who was right and did nothing wrong)? Everyone was all sad for SW and it was really disconcerting to read. Also space pirate cyclops is a good idea and its sad it is going to die.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:34
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Avengers is also only 2 though.
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Mar 28, 2015 22:59
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Ramadu posted:So I'm reading Uncanny X-Men and All New X-Men because gently caress you comics don't make me read like 4 different series at the same time to get a coherent story (Avengers I'm looking at you too!!!). Why did no one acknowledge what Jean Grey pointed out that Scarlet Witch is a genocidal monster and she should be put on trial way way way before Cyclops (who was right and did nothing wrong)? Everyone was all sad for SW and it was really disconcerting to read. The main thing I took away from this post is that I want a "Cyclops Did Nothing Wrong" shirt really bad. Agreed on Cyclops, though. The first arc was excellent, and I've liked the post-Rucka space pirate shenanigans a lot as well. I just realized that the issue coming out this week is just Black Vortex bullshit and not actually relevant to why I liked the book, since I haven't been reading that dumbfuck crossover after the first two issues.
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Mar 28, 2015 23:01
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Gizmoduck_5000 posted:Axel Alonso just tweeted that the X-men would remain an integral part of the marvel universe, which is a big disappointment for me, because I think the X-men severely need a complete reboot and a continuity enema. As it stands now it's completely unapproachable for new and returning fans. Why would them having their "own world" do anything? I mean they basically spend most of their time in their own world now, only really crossing over with Bendis' other projects.
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Mar 28, 2015 23:41
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Codependent Poster posted:Angel's bones are supposedly hollow. Wolverine had adamantium grafted to them. Uh, that's all I can think of. Shark Girl's might be cartilage!
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There's Marrow, who's bones can be pretty much whatever. Though, yeah, I guess you can say that about any actual shapeshifter too. Colossus' bones probably turn metal, not 100% sure on that. (Nimrod broke one of his arms recently and I think they went into a bit of detail into how that worked if you really wanna get into it for some reason) Also, good bet that Blob has an extra-dense skeleton... he'd have to, right? Speaking of thick skeletons, I'd also say Mammomax, but you already used him. I guess look for other animal mutants, there's plenty.
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Oh well, it was worth asking. Thanks for trying. Also, other people should post and should most especially post funny/  pictures in the Mimic thread. Someone else here has to know of five mutants and own either a pencil or an MS Paint.
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So uh... which of them laid the Phoenix egg?
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SynthOrange posted:So uh... which of them laid the Phoenix egg? Magneto. It was a torrid affair in the heat of the moment, but Colossus just felt a real attraction to him.
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Not sure if this is the right place but I'm losing my mind... I'm trying to get hold of the X-Factor comics, mostly from the Madrox stuff onwards but I wouldn't mind from the originals. I've tried various legal and illegal means but searching the internet for anything X-Factor is annoying as hell thanks to a certain tv reality show. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Apr 7, 2015 00:59
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Sorvah posted:Not sure if this is the right place but I'm losing my mind... It might be on Marvel Unlimited. Someone can chime in on that I'm sure. As for your other legal recourse outside of hitting up comic stores, book stores, or ebay they are also available on Comixology. https://www.comixology.com/X-Factor-2005-2013/comics-series/1131
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Thanks for that Deadpool. Funnily enough I was one of the first few Marvel Digital subscribers back n the day and I was so disappointed with what was available they gave me a refund plus a few comics. Back when I was subscribed there was barely anything on, collections weren't complete and new comics only appeared something like 12 months after their publishing date. I'm guessing it's got a lot better since!
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