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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


The Dark Project posted:

It gets even better...



Nice.

https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/861519494405128193

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 10:58 on May 8, 2017

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Makes sense, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they proposed making the UK the British Empire again and appointing May as Emperor-in-chief. Wouldn't be surprised if people voted for it, either.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Pochoclo posted:

Makes sense, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they proposed making the UK the British Empire again and appointing May as Emperor-in-chief. Wouldn't be surprised if people voted for it, either.

I mean.... the queen might have something to say about that. And if it comes to a punch up between her and May my money's on Brenda every time. She's stocky, and you just know May can't take one to the jaw and stay standing.

communism bitch fucked around with this message at 11:13 on May 8, 2017

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Making the UK the British Empire again would mean scrapping the Commonwealth Immigration Act and there's no way the country would vote for "free movement of goods, capital, services, and labour, but this time 500 million of them are black."

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Labour's immigration policy set to be revealed in ten days, key moment in the campaign perhaps.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/861521280146821120

Seems good although maybe a bit niche

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


HJB posted:

Labour's immigration policy set to be revealed in ten days, key moment in the campaign perhaps.

It's probably going to be poo poo.

I'm just guessing though.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
all immigrants welcome as long as they like jam

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Private Speech posted:

It's probably going to be poo poo.

I'm just guessing though.

It's a fair bet. When was the last time this country had an immigration policy that wasn't poo poo?

Surprise T Rex
Apr 9, 2008

Dinosaur Gum
If the past is anything to go by, Labour's immigration policy will be "Tough on Immigration, but not quiiiite as tough as the Tories, and definitely not in a racist way like UKIP".

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



AP posted:

I like that Diane Abbott & Corbyn gave McDonnell an opening to bring Das Kapital up, that should help a lot.

To be fair, I thought he handled all the bullshit Marr tried to throw at him really, really well.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
I don't think it's going to be fulls balls to the wall, writing on the mug levels of immigration, but there has to be some sort of concession otherwise it's political suicide, which I think is why they're keeping tight-lipped about it for now.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I'm running with a zero tolerance immigration policy. No one enters and no one leaves until we sort everything else* out.


* Everything more important than hospital car park fees, anyway.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

^^^^Tory Thunderdome but it's a country

The Tories look to be keeping their impossible promise of net migration to tens of thousands so abolish all borders now because borders kill.

However Labour will probably talk mostly about protecting the rights of EU citizens here to be allowed to remain, tackling gang masters and the seasonal labour force and if they've got any sense keeping immigration levels at whatever level is necessary to keep the NHS fully staffed.

namesake fucked around with this message at 11:39 on May 8, 2017

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Guavanaut posted:

Making the UK the British Empire again would mean scrapping the Commonwealth Immigration Act and there's no way the country would vote for "free movement of goods, capital, services, and labour, but this time 500 million of them are black."

Just think what it would do to house prices.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Corbyn's talked in the past about bringing the immigration impact fund. Can't really argue about the impact of immigration if you're being reimbursed monetarily for it*!

*Who am I kidding, it's about ARE CULTURE

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
I agree

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

quote:

The Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, has said he had a poster of Margaret Thatcher above his bed as a schoolboy but denied he had been a young Tory.

Farron said he had “all sorts of weird icons” as a schoolboy during an ITV programme in which one of his schoolfriends claimed the MP had an “I Love Maggie” sticker on his textbook.
christ what a wanker
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/08/tim-farron-margaret-thatcher-poster-childhood-bedroom-itv-interview

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/theresa-may/news/85751/theresa-may-give-me-mandate-big

quote:

Theresa May has claimed that Emmanuel Macron's thumping French presidential election victory shows why she must win a large majority on 8 June.
The Prime Minister said she needed "an equally strong mandate" to take into the Brexit negotiations.
And she warned voters not to elect a Labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn, who she said would not be able to stand up to "the might of the European Commission" in the Brexit talks.
...
Surrounded by Tory election candidates, the Prime Minister said: "Yesterday, a new French president was elected. He was elected with a strong mandate which he can take as a strong position in the negotiations.
"In the UK, we need to ensure we've got an equally strong mandate to take into those negotiations.
"Every vote for me and my team will strengthen my hand in those negotiations. The alternative is to risk making Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister.
"Try to picture him sitting at that negotiating table with the collective might of the European Commission and 27 other European countries against him.
"A vote for any other party is a vote to be a step closer to Jeremy Corbyn sitting at that Brexit negotiating table - we must not let that happen."
Mrs May also confirmed that the Tory pledge to cut net migration to the tens of thousands will be in her party's manifesto for the third election in a row.
That is quite some chutzpah.

Incidentally, Macron's manifesto has a lot to say about the EU and his desires for its trading arrangements which may be of some relevance to brexit (it's in French of course, but the Google translation is pretty good): https://en-marche.fr/emmanuel-macron/le-programme/europe

quote:

We will demand that a set of European social rights be established by setting minimum standards for training rights, health cover, unemployment insurance or minimum wage (at levels that take account of unequal development Member States).
We will demand that a set of European social rights be established by setting minimum standards for training rights, health cover, unemployment insurance or minimum wage (at levels that take account of unequal development Member States).
We will defend a "Buy European Act", which will allow access to European public procurement markets to companies that account for at least half of their production in Europe.
We will propose to set up at European level an instrument of control of foreign investments in Europe to preserve our strategic interests and sectors, like the United States or China or what exists in France.
We will propose to create a "European commercial prosecutor", to verify compliance with the commitments made by our partners and to punish quickly their violation, in particular in social, environmental or fiscal matters.
We will demand that all EU trade agreements incorporate a strand of tax cooperation and binding social and environmental clauses (lowering tariffs on "clean" goods and services as a matter of priority and introducing trade sanctions in Violations of social and environmental clauses).
Would be... interesting... to see those plans collide with the brexiteer turbonutter delusion of turning the UK into the Singapore of Europe.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






The libidinal desires that so many male politicians had towards Thatcher will never stop being funny.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

big scary monsters posted:

Just think what it would do to house prices.
I'm sure the Tories would implement a fair free market solution where the rich Nigerian business owners and South African government men can afford houses in Mayfair and poor Britons are given help to buy a house in the Namib.

Gorn Myson posted:

The libidinal desires that so many male politicians had towards Thatcher will never stop being funny.
I blame chemicals in the water.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Gorn Myson posted:

The libidinal desires that so many male politicians had towards Thatcher will never stop being funny.

You mean nightmare inducing.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Guavanaut posted:

I blame chemicals in the water.
I blame mummy issues and a desire to be dominated by a strong woman.

At least this is a good way to mock Farron in conversations though.

"Oh that guy, hes another one of those establishment types. You know the kind; career politician, no experience or knowledge outside of that limited scope, openly admits that he wants to gently caress Margaret Thatcher. They're all the same".

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Spuckuk posted:

To be fair, I thought he handled all the bullshit Marr tried to throw at him really, really well.

The Telegraph is loving hilarious today, with bylines like "MCDONNELL WANTS TO BE FIRST SOCIALIST CHANCELLOR"

Like...yeah? You think?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

BBC has announced it's election plans.


There will be a seven way debate with 'senior figures' from all parties on 31st May.

A Question Time style Q&A with just May and Corbyn on 2nd June.

Another significantly more pointless Q&A with just Farron and Sturgeon on 4th June.

And finally a 'Newsbeat Youth' debate with an audience of 16-34 year olds on 6th June.


All in all not bad coverage, and the face off between May and Corbyn should be a golden opportunity to reach people and cut through May's soundbites. Also sounds like Labour and the Tories will send someone other than the leader to take part in the large debate. Personally I think McDonnell could do quite well in that role provided he doesn't get ganged up on by the other parties.

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Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

jabby posted:

BBC has announced it's election plans.

All of them after the registration cut off.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
Talk about glass half empty

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Its something.

Edit: enjoyed the inclusion of Tim's gay friend. Guess his squirming on the subject was all to do with being a lib dem.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Who hasn't bust a nut to Maggie Thatcher at some point?

I mean for most of you it was a drawing of her on fire but I'm not one to kinkshame.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
So how many articles are we going to get about the tacit admission from May that she'd hoped the fascist won?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Oberleutnant posted:

christ what a wanker
I mean presumably this was the reason for the poster, yes.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


sassassin posted:

Who hasn't bust a nut to Maggie Thatcher at some point?

Maybe as portrayed in that Jeffrey Archer film.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
I reckon it will play quite well with the average dolt who has no idea that Macron won't actually be taking part in the Brexit negotiations because they don't know the first thing about how Europe works.

DaWolfey
Oct 25, 2003

College Slice

jabby posted:

the face off between May and Corbyn

They aren't debating each other. It'll be (presumably) 30 minutes with May, then 30 minutes with Corbyn
She'll be Strong and Stable all the way through.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

DaWolfey posted:

They aren't debating each other. It'll be (presumably) 30 minutes with May, then 30 minutes with Corbyn
She'll be Strong and Stable all the way through.

Well that could potentially be worse if she's unable to say anything else for 30 minutes. A proper debate would at least let her rephrase it every few minutes.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

jabby posted:

BBC has announced it's election plans.


There will be a seven way debate with 'senior figures' from all parties on 31st May.

A Question Time style Q&A with just May and Corbyn on 2nd June.

Another significantly more pointless Q&A with just Farron and Sturgeon on 4th June.

And finally a 'Newsbeat Youth' debate with an audience of 16-34 year olds on 6th June.


All in all not bad coverage, and the face off between May and Corbyn should be a golden opportunity to reach people and cut through May's soundbites. Also sounds like Labour and the Tories will send someone other than the leader to take part in the large debate. Personally I think McDonnell could do quite well in that role provided he doesn't get ganged up on by the other parties.

It won't make any loving difference because the only people who watch the debates have already made up their mind and the people who "just vote", the olds that decide the election, will just read the papers and pick up on the strong and stable stuff then go out and vote for the Tories.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


DaWolfey posted:

They aren't debating each other. It'll be (presumably) 30 minutes with May, then 30 minutes with Corbyn
She'll be Strong and Stable all the way through.

Seems like it could be a good drinking game that.

Maybe somebody should put up a TV/IV thread for it.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

DaWolfey posted:

They aren't debating each other. It'll be (presumably) 30 minutes with May, then 30 minutes with Corbyn
She'll be Strong and Stable all the way through.

They won't be appearing together, but apparently the audience will be asking them the same questions and the Beeb will play both answers before going to the next question. So people will be able to directly compare them.

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
Looking at some post-election stats on german state media, aparently most Macron voters didn't vote for him but rather against Le Pen - Le Pen was so toxic, people wanted to make sure she stays out.
Do we have something like that for May/Corbyn? How many vote for May because she's May, and how many vote for her because she's not Corbyn?

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ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

sassassin posted:

Who hasn't bust a nut to Maggie Thatcher at some point?

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