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tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

23w lol. I assume the DVD playback bit is just about an mpeg decoder?

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Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
You can't hardware device mpeg2 without a license, so yes. The first Rasberry pi even had an addon purchase to get the license!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alsv-v9o4yQ

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Gonz posted:

Never had any trackball control quite that large, but I did have one of these, which I got at a garage sale for like 10 bucks back in the day.



I had this & used to wreck my friends in DOOM & Quake deathmatch

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



I have the modern successor of this and still use it for games

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
I used a ADB Kensington Turbo Mouse 4 button trackball with my mid 90's PowerMac 7100/80AV. Was kind of funny trying to find uses for the 3 other buttons on an OS that's designed around a single button mouse. I made a "right-click" of sorts by having the lower right button do a keypress on the Apple/cloverleaf mod key + click combo.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
First mouse I ever saw was the clip-on trackball my dad got for his monochrome 386 laptop:

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




That is a thing of beauty

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Speaking of things of beauty, I recently picked up a Sun Microsystems Sparcstation 5 in desperate need of some TLC.



These are very important computers to me, as during my formative years of becoming a computer toucher, I had a high school job at a local business where all of the engineers and some of the IT staff used these Sun SS5 boxes. These were amazing computers to me. While the rest of us plodded away on Pentium 75's with Windows 95 and ball mice, the Sun-havers were living in the future with Solaris and these brand new optical mice that seemed straight out of science fiction. I really was enthralled by the Sun machines, they were extremely untouchable for me as a broke high school kid (and lets be honest, no one outside of the enterprise and education world actually purchased these).

So now I have one, my second one, actually. That company eventually gave me a broken one after seeing how smitten I was with them, but I never got it working, and in a fit of being broke in college, I sold it, much to my regret. I am positive that 2024 me could get it running again. Anyway, I have another one, and its very dirty. It came from an auto shop, so it has basically spent its entire life inhaling shop dust. Its got some issues, its missing its left front panel piece, the model placard is pretty crusty, and in general the plastic is brittle as hell









So I'm embarking on the journey to restoring this thing. First things first, cleaning it up. I've fully disassembled it and bathed some parts in 99% ipa to get the crud off. The rest is getting hit with a wire wheel for rust and 120psi of air for the dust.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



Beve Stuscemi posted:

That is a thing of beauty
The source image comes from this imgur gallery, which is also kind of beautiful, in its own right.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Speaking of things of beauty, I recently picked up a Sun Microsystems Sparcstation 5 in desperate need of some TLC.











I’m curious… What kind of shop needs a Sparcstation?
Was it used to 3D model a widget that went to a CNC or something?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Picturing someone hunt-and-pecking CUSTOMER STATES over and over into an xterm

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




namlosh posted:

I’m curious… What kind of shop needs a Sparcstation?
Was it used to 3D model a widget that went to a CNC or something?

Given the other equipment that came out of there it was some extremely ancient inventory system that ran on green screen terminals.

If the hard drive in the SS5 is still good (and if I can get the system powered on), maybe I can find out.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Well, it’s massively more clean now, and it powers on! I don’t have a 13w3 to vga adapter yet though, so I can’t tell if it’s booting yet





Unfortunately more brittle 90’s plastic succumbed to simply being disassembled, so I guess I have to make an eBay search for these front plates



Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Do you have anything with a serial port? IIRC they are quite verbose over serial when booting.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I do love seeing nice old machines getting fixed up like that! Thanks for sharing

dobbymoodge
Mar 8, 2005

Computer viking posted:

Do you have anything with a serial port? IIRC they are quite verbose over serial when booting.

You'll need to find or make a little adapter for the serial port iirc. Order it at the same time as the display adapter!

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Well, it’s massively more clean now, and it powers on! I don’t have a 13w3 to vga adapter yet though, so I can’t tell if it’s booting yet

Do those suffer from the leaky capacitors that kill older Macs?

Speaking of old graphics systems, this thread might be able to clear something up for me: Was there a dedicated, pre Macintosh/photoshop graphics workstation from the early 80's? I'm sure I remember reading about such a system, very high end and only used by large design houses (for whatever reason I associate it with Hipgnosis, but that might be a red herring).

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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It sounds like you're talking about Psygnosis and Amiga (maybe Video Toaster)?

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Data Graham posted:

It sounds like you're talking about Psygnosis and Amiga (maybe Video Toaster)?

I don't think so, this was for (at the time, I guess) high end image manipulation and graphic design work. Thinking about it more I may just be mis-remembering an 80's article about photoshop. :(

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




yaffle posted:

I don't think so, this was for (at the time, I guess) high end image manipulation and graphic design work. Thinking about it more I may just be mis-remembering an 80's article about photoshop. :(

Amiga with a Video Toaster and Silicon Graphics workstations were the cool kids' toys.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

yaffle posted:

Speaking of old graphics systems, this thread might be able to clear something up for me: Was there a dedicated, pre Macintosh/photoshop graphics workstation from the early 80's? I'm sure I remember reading about such a system, very high end and only used by large design houses (for whatever reason I associate it with Hipgnosis, but that might be a red herring).
You're probably thinking of Silicon Graphics. They made some of the earliest hardware accelerated graphic systems in the mid 80s and made *the* high end graphic workstations to have if you had a lot of money to spend in the 90s.

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses

Computer viking posted:

Do you have anything with a serial port? IIRC they are quite verbose over serial when booting.

That and you’ll need to dremel out and mod the epoxied NVRAM battery or get a replacement. These machines work but are generally unhappy without proper NVRAM.

yaffle posted:

I don't think so, this was for (at the time, I guess) high end image manipulation and graphic design work. Thinking about it more I may just be mis-remembering an 80's article about photoshop. :(

You may be thinking of Scitex machines (which did various things like imposition, rasterizing, et cetera).

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

yaffle posted:

Do those suffer from the leaky capacitors that kill older Macs?

Speaking of old graphics systems, this thread might be able to clear something up for me: Was there a dedicated, pre Macintosh/photoshop graphics workstation from the early 80's? I'm sure I remember reading about such a system, very high end and only used by large design houses (for whatever reason I associate it with Hipgnosis, but that might be a red herring).

You might be thinking of the Mindset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcmwa0xCSnU

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

dobbymoodge posted:

You'll need to find or make a little adapter for the serial port iirc. Order it at the same time as the display adapter!

Coincidentally I just got an "untested" Sparcstation 5 from eBay with very few pictures, because I have strong nostalgia for them having used them a lot at university. Mine isn't as grubby (by far) and looks like it's been dropped on one corner (it's a bit bent!) but thankfully boots and works fine except the NVRAM battery switch is of course toast.

Just stick a null modem cable on the 25-pin serial port A and connect at 9600 8n1 and it shows boot messages etc and goes into OpenPROM :D

Also, mine has the max 256MB of RAM in it, which presumably would have cost several arms and legs back when this was new :o
(And a disk with a web server and mysql database with someone's data in it I guess...)

I'm looking forward to seeing how much of my actual work I can do on a 70Mhz single core machine!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Oooh, nice! I'll hook mine up to serial tonight and see what it says. What are you doing for an NVRAM replacement? Hacking the existing one apart, or getting a new one?

I think mine has just 32MB of RAM, which is still fine for the time it was made, but I believe it has the 170mhz processor in it. Are you going to run solaris on it, or some form of *nix?

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Oooh, nice! I'll hook mine up to serial tonight and see what it says. What are you doing for an NVRAM replacement? Hacking the existing one apart, or getting a new one?

I think mine has just 32MB of RAM, which is still fine for the time it was made, but I believe it has the 170mhz processor in it. Are you going to run solaris on it, or some form of *nix?

Not sure on the NVRAM yet - I think it's harder to get working replacements now than a few years ago, as the similar chips which are still made and fit aren't 100% compatible? I need to investigate this more but the chip-hat-chopping doesn't look too awful to do :)

Was thinking of getting a ZuluSCSI or BlueSCSI V2 (very similar, but easier to get the latter in the UK where I am) and then trying out various OSes! NextSTEP will work on most SS5s but not the 170Mhz TurboSPARC you have, as that's a newer SPARC model (and the fastest Sparc 5!)

So hopefully I'll try out SunOS/Solaris older versions, NextSTEP, NetBSD, whatever else it will run really!
(Definitely not Linux, I have enough boxes which can run that much better than this)

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Oooh, nice! I'll hook mine up to serial tonight and see what it says. What are you doing for an NVRAM replacement? Hacking the existing one apart, or getting a new one?

I think mine has just 32MB of RAM, which is still fine for the time it was made, but I believe it has the 170mhz processor in it. Are you going to run solaris on it, or some form of *nix?

Double posting, but forgot to say that the serial side of things only happens by default if there isn't a keyboard plugged in.

Oh and the 13w3 adapters are different for SGI and Sun, just to confuse things. There are cables you can buy in the US with a bunch of DIP switches to set the wiring of pins so they'll work to convert the various flavours of 13w3 to VGA though.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I bought this one, which people in the reviews are talking about working with Sun machines

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TZG526

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses
For refurbishing the Sun NVRAMs I recommend this Tindie kit.

https://www.tindie.com/products/glitchwrks/gw-48t08-1-repair-board-module/

If you don’t want to DIY it, Glitchworks will refurbish modules for you if you mail them in.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

yaffle posted:

Speaking of old graphics systems, this thread might be able to clear something up for me: Was there a dedicated, pre Macintosh/photoshop graphics workstation from the early 80's? I'm sure I remember reading about such a system, very high end and only used by large design houses (for whatever reason I associate it with Hipgnosis, but that might be a red herring).

It was for the television industry, but something like the Quantel Paintbox?

To quote the wikipedia page:

"Quantel invested heavily in art, employing a hundred digital artists by the late 1980s to improve and demonstrate the Paintbox features. Graphic Paintbox was used to create the poster for The Silence of the Lambs, JFK, The Doors, and record covers for Nirvana's Nevermind, and the Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique. The Miracle, rock band Queen's studio album, was designed by Richard Gray and created by Richard Baker."

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Gromit posted:

It was for the television industry, but something like the Quantel Paintbox?

To quote the wikipedia page:

"Quantel invested heavily in art, employing a hundred digital artists by the late 1980s to improve and demonstrate the Paintbox features. Graphic Paintbox was used to create the poster for The Silence of the Lambs, JFK, The Doors, and record covers for Nirvana's Nevermind, and the Beastie Boys' Paul's Boutique. The Miracle, rock band Queen's studio album, was designed by Richard Gray and created by Richard Baker."

It was this! I remember the Queen Album from the thing I saw about it. Thanks.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I got nothing on the serial output from the Sun, but apparently I need a null modem cable? I think I’m using just a straight through serial cable. I guess we’ll find out when the adapter arrives tomorrow

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019


I've seen this and do not know why in the picture the d-pad and c-buttons are in the opposite positions. Was that an earlier version of the controller?

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

you broke my grill posted:

I've seen this and do not know why in the picture the d-pad and c-buttons are in the opposite positions. Was that an earlier version of the controller?

The footage was likely mirrored.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Beve Stuscemi posted:

I got nothing on the serial output from the Sun, but apparently I need a null modem cable? I think I’m using just a straight through serial cable. I guess we’ll find out when the adapter arrives tomorrow
Yeah you need a null modem (ie a crossover serial cable) if connecting to another computer. If you had a proper serial terminal it would already be "crossed over" internally so TX gets connected to RX and vice versa.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Is there any fun software that only runs on old Solaris?

I have a Sun Blade 100 in the basement and while it's nice that it uses standard VGA and USB I really struggle to find any reason to power it up and play with it. After having to sysadmin ancient HPUX and Solaris servers for work I think it would cause more trauma than nostalgia :psyduck:
https://unixhq.com/systems/sun-blade-100/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdwHLMkiQ8

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

r u ready to WALK posted:

Is there any fun software that only runs on old Solaris?

I have a Sun Blade 100 in the basement and while it's nice that it uses standard VGA and USB I really struggle to find any reason to power it up and play with it. After having to sysadmin ancient HPUX and Solaris servers for work I think it would cause more trauma than nostalgia :psyduck:
https://unixhq.com/systems/sun-blade-100/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFdwHLMkiQ8

Does it run Doom?

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

evobatman posted:

Does it run Doom?

It can! https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Solaris

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