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Funzo posted:I decided to paint up one of those Wizkids unpainted D&D miniatures yesterday... I know some people that swear they're "okay" but you have to simple green them to get all the goopy primer off to actually see wtf the miniature looks like
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It was me what asked about the H&S. All the modelling folks I follow swear by the Infinity, but by the same token, they also get sponsorship deals. It's nice to know that it gets universal praise even without endorsements. Any USians know of a good place to buy an Infinity that might too gut-wrenchingly expensive?
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Jun 7, 2019 22:55
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Hixson posted:Of course. They're a company advertising their own product, to make money. Bottom line is Contrast paint isn't out yet so nobody knows; but I'd be willing to bet that most primers will work just as good as an undercoat. At least based on the YouTube videos I've seen there does seem to be a difference. I remember a few saying it was different, and I can't recall anyone saying that it didn't matter. I know that it will work with other primers, for example metallics. The spray paint working in humid weather should be interesting.
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Jun 7, 2019 22:57
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I did get mine as a present, so bare that in mind when I say it's great. I can't tell you if its £200 great, just that I love it.
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Jun 7, 2019 22:58
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:From Ministomp: This was worth reading by the way. The green smoke on the skaven engineer was apparently one run of a contrast paint, the great tail blend was just base colour, put some medium down where you want the fade to be, then put the new colour down and fade it. It looks smooth. I liked as well that they pointed out contrast models don't look significantly different to ones painted regularly, so you could use it for regular troops but still go old school on characters.
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Jun 8, 2019 02:28
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I think this is the most fun I've had painting a base:
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Jun 8, 2019 02:39
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Mate that looks great
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Jst0rm posted:hey guys im just getting back into this hobby and have been watching lots of youtube videos. Really incredible stuff out there but this one guy I happened upon is another level beyond anything I have ever realized is possible. His channel is only like 2 months old and not many views but check out this white scars pain job... He also has videos about his modifications. These are long videos. I ran into this channel a few days ago, the guy does great stuff I hope he does something that's not some type of space marine next, I'd love to see his take on Orks
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grassy gnoll posted:It was me what asked about the H&S. All the modelling folks I follow swear by the Infinity, but by the same token, they also get sponsorship deals. It's nice to know that it gets universal praise even without endorsements. For some reason, H&S tends to cost a bit more than their Iwata/japanese counterparts in the states. You may want to consider looking into those brands too.
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Jun 8, 2019 03:25
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grassy gnoll posted:It was me what asked about the H&S. All the modelling folks I follow swear by the Infinity, but by the same token, they also get sponsorship deals. It's nice to know that it gets universal praise even without endorsements. I got a refurbished one from spraygunner.
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Jun 8, 2019 04:26
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We'll see once things reach the shelves, but if regular primers don't work, I imagine that a light spray of satin varnish over the primer will do the job nicely. Of course, the GW primer will be simpler, but I hate using a rattlecan primer. I'd much rather use an airbrush.
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Jun 8, 2019 05:05
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Take 2 at Contrast Vs Tank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttd7FS5DHvI I think this would be great for getting concrete.
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Jun 8, 2019 08:51
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Contrast Black is already "unavailable" on the UK GW store. Guess this stuff might be hard to come by for a while.
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Jun 8, 2019 13:29
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From reddit, poster said this took him 30 minutes with Contrast paints, and some decent brush control
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Jun 8, 2019 13:54
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The Jumpoff posted:From reddit, poster said this took him 30 minutes with Contrast paints, and some decent brush control Shut the front door.
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Jun 8, 2019 13:59
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I can't believe how good you guys are at painting. The stuff you've posted in the past few pages is so great. I need to up my brush game and catch up.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:06
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Marzipan Pig posted:I can't believe how good you guys are at painting. The stuff you've posted in the past few pages is so great. I need to up my brush game and catch up. Just paint. It's a skill like any other.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:18
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The Jumpoff posted:From reddit, poster said this took him 30 minutes with Contrast paints, and some decent brush control gently caress. Yes.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:18
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Yeah, if the description is accurate, yellow and red won't be the huge PITA they are now. Which would be awesome if Contrast worked on vehicles like it does on infantry. I personally really hope Contrast is a huge success and they expand the range, but i'm struggling to think of how i would use it. Most of my models are already primed so i'd either have to strip them and reprime or take a gamble on how Contrast works on normal primer (does anyone have a vid showing this actually?)
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Jun 8, 2019 14:22
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The Jumpoff posted:Yeah, if the description is accurate, yellow and red won't be the huge PITA they are now. Which would be awesome if Contrast worked on vehicles like it does on infantry. By all accounts it works pretty well. You could also just spray over with the new primer if necessary; it's not all that thick.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:23
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The Jumpoff posted:From reddit, poster said this took him 30 minutes with Contrast paints, and some decent brush control The big empty surfaces still look pretty bad imo. I've not seen a non-organic model that looked good so far. Contrasts strengths really seem to play into the last couple of years of GW design that calls for as much detail as possible on every single surface.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:25
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TTerrible posted:The big empty surfaces still look pretty bad imo. I've not seen a non-organic model that looked good so far. Contrasts strengths really seem to play into the last couple of years of GW design that calls for as much detail as possible on every single surface. Apparently you can get better results by thinning it with the Contrast Medium. I want to see how it looks airbrushed; over the flat surfaces I bet a smooth glaze effect would be fine.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:34
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Apparently you can get better results by thinning it with the Contrast Medium. I want to see how it looks airbrushed; over the flat surfaces I bet a smooth glaze effect would be fine. Probably, but at that point the price premium of contrast doesn't make sense. May as well just use any other glaze/ink/whatever.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:36
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TTerrible posted:Probably, but at that point the price premium of contrast doesn't make sense. May as well just use any other glaze/ink/whatever. It makes sense if the end result matches the rest of the army. My point was that it might be feasible to airbrush the Contrast paint over flat surfaces to avoid the pooling effect.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:46
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Apparently you can get better results by thinning it with the Contrast Medium. I want to see how it looks airbrushed; over the flat surfaces I bet a smooth glaze effect would be fine. I've seen it done with an airbrush and it's exactly like airbrushing inks.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It makes sense if the end result matches the rest of the army. My point was that it might be feasible to airbrush the Contrast paint over flat surfaces to avoid the pooling effect. If you're hellbent on using contrast for infantry then yeah a colour match across your vehicles is a good thing. Your vehicles will look noticeably different though as you're not getting the dipped look and will have to go for stark edge highlights instead.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:55
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TTerrible posted:If you're hellbent on using contrast for infantry then yeah a colour match across your vehicles is a good thing. Your vehicles will look noticeably different though as you're not getting the dipped look and will have to go for stark edge highlights instead. I was thinking a pin wash might help, but you're right about the edge highlighting. It looks like all the really nice results and examples followed up with highlighting and some traditional brushwork.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:56
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The Skeleton Bone or whatever Contrast color it was in that dinosaur video looked fantastic, I'd really like to try it out and see it on some skeletons
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Jun 8, 2019 14:57
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Ministomp is selling the 35 pot Contrast set for $220 and says that's a $65 discount.
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Jun 8, 2019 15:12
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I've been playing with some contrasts from the UK games expo. They're interesting paints, definitely great for quickly painting things with lots of niggly details such as the chest eagles but are not great for flat surfaces. When you thin then with water they get... Weird. A bit more like a shade but wants to run into edges and creases even more. Could be good for necrons if you use the super bright green and then paint over the panels normally after.
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Marzipan Pig posted:I can't believe how good you guys are at painting. The stuff you've posted in the past few pages is so great. I need to up my brush game and catch up. Just have fun. And only ever compare your current painting job to a painting job you did like 5 to 10 minis ago. If you stress to much about getting better you will probably stop painting. A good approach would be to focus on a technique, that way if it messes up, your brain won't say you are bad, it will say hey I'm awesome I am defining what works and what doesn't.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I was thinking a pin wash might help, but you're right about the edge highlighting. It looks like all the really nice results and examples followed up with highlighting and some traditional brushwork. I think it'll be fine if you just use contrast as a base across _everything_ and use traditional methods over the top. You'll get a matching style on infantry and vehicles - but at that point what time are you saving? May as well do things the old fashioned way in the first place. It'll be great for new painters and for a select few things like faces, a starting point for heavily organic minis etc. It has a very distinct look like dipped armies that I'm not a huge fan of personally but that isn''t exactly objective.
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Finally got the stones to try decal application, after finding out about microset/sol. First I applied em to my recent Kill Team  Still some edge highlighting to be done, but really pleased with the result after a few coats of Microsol
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Jun 8, 2019 15:48
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Microsol and Microset are basically magic.
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Yeah, they're great. They take a little longer than doing it all with water, but the difference is pretty huge, especially on something round like power armour shoulders.
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Marzipan Pig posted:I can't believe how good you guys are at painting. The stuff you've posted in the past few pages is so great. I need to up my brush game and catch up. brushes sharpen brushes.
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Jun 8, 2019 16:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtoRXq_noJg Bones minis definitely need primer for contrast paints I ordered a complete set along with the blood bowl pro elves and halflings. Might not get the until the end of the month.
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Yeah, I was afraid that was gonna be the case. Ah well. He got decent results after some Vallejo primer, so a few minutes with the airbrush should have 'em ready.
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So any idea when the US preorder page for Contrast is gonna open up? E: NM looks like it's up
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Mikey Purp posted:So any idea when the US preorder page for Contrast is gonna open up? The North American stores always update with new preorders Saturday 1 PM EST / 10 AM PST, plus or minus... I’m going to say three minutes?
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