Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Malachite_Dragon posted:

Fallout 4 has its low moments (and buggy moments) but it A) actually exists and B) is, and can be, fun. These are two things (technically three) that Star Citizen will never be.

Yeah, Fallout 4 was (at least for myself) disappointing in a few ways, but it still shipped and sold well. I think the reliance on settlement building was probably a real problem considering how buggy as gently caress it was, but it's certainly not a clusterfuck of the likes that Star Citizen will be on release.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 05:04

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# ? May 30, 2024 19:00

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Scruffpuff posted:

"Goons said game wasn't coming out, but here's a mining ship! Checkmate, goonies!"

*pushes button labeled "mining laser" - light beam created between ship and asteroid - nothing else happens*

The laughable part of this simple laser beam mechanic is this is the ship that has the expandable container system to hold the ore. They struggle with toilets and doors, imagine how this will turn out.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 05:13

Samizdata: May 14, 2007

Colostomy Bag posted:

The laughable part of this simple laser beam mechanic is this is the ship that has the expandable container system to hold the ore. They struggle with toilets and doors, imagine how this will turn out.

Do it the same way they do everything else. Three containers.

Empty.
Half Full.
Full.

Swap out as needed. Just like the pilot becomes one with HIS ship (so glad SC doesn't make me worry about the right gender) or severs, so does the ore bay do the same.

EDIT: Wanted to add - Don't worry about the lack of animation. The backers will delude themselves as to anything BUT complete animation being utter impossibility, so they will be SURE they saw it move.

Samizdata fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 05:20

boviscopophobic: Feb 5, 2016

I really like the blanket design in the Misc Prospector reveal and also in the Starfarer, as shown in these screenshots.

Could you friendly and enterprising goons help me find stock image art that would allow me to legally replicate this blanket for myself? So far I've found this:

EDIT: Never mind, I found it now!

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/seamless-children-cartoon-space-pattern-rockets-278602232

boviscopophobic fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 05:54

Thronde: Aug 4, 2012; Fun Shoe

Ahahahah archered even more art. For a sale item.

AT least it looks like they paid for the license this time.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:10

nawledgelambo: Nov 8, 2016; Immersion chariot

fuckin lol this truly will be the company that continues to deliver

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:12

Space Crabs: Mar 10, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

I see no problem paying $600.00 for that space ship

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:18

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Scruffpuff posted:

"Goons said game wasn't coming out, but here's a mining ship! Checkmate, goonies!"

*pushes button labeled "mining laser" - light beam created between ship and asteroid - nothing else happens*

Lol at you thinking you're going to be able to land on and mine an asteroid.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:18

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

Klyith posted:

The guy that's spammed the thread with 15 pages of bad reddit screencaps should get the same.

Ummm,

Pointing out the insane crap that citizens say is actually quite funny.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:28

Goobs: Jan 30, 2016; Doxcat is watching you PU.

boviscopophobic posted:

I really like the blanket design in the Misc Prospector reveal and also in the Starfarer, as shown in these screenshots.

Could you friendly and enterprising goons help me find stock image art that would allow me to legally replicate this blanket for myself? So far I've found this:

EDIT: Never mind, I found it now!

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/seamless-children-cartoon-space-pattern-rockets-278602232

Hahahhahaha. Would be better if it was archer wearing the moomoo or whatever theyre selling it as.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:35

TrustmeImLegit: Jan 14, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

slip of the tongue for a citizen

quote:

I am invested in this game, and would be really upset if it doesn't make it to release or if it's sold to a developer.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:36

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

boviscopophobic posted:

I really like the blanket design in the Misc Prospector reveal and also in the Starfarer, as shown in these screenshots.

Could you friendly and enterprising goons help me find stock image art that would allow me to legally replicate this blanket for myself? So far I've found this:

EDIT: Never mind, I found it now!

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/seamless-children-cartoon-space-pattern-rockets-278602232

Oh for the love of God, CIG, can you not Archer every loving thing in your game?

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:40

TrustmeImLegit: Jan 14, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Hey the artist either did a good job taking out the watermark or they actually paid for it this time

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:43

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

TrustmeImLegit posted:

slip of the tongue for a citizen

I honestly don't think it could be sold to a developer at this point.

Just for discussion let's say EA bought it. How could they turn a profit? They'd have to somehow make back the money they spent buying it, then finishing development. And they wouldn't be able to make people who already own packages re-buy anything.

I would think CIG's whale "list" might be worth some money, but I just don't see anyone wanting to touch this failure with a 10 foot pole.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 06:43

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Beet Wagon posted:

Oh for the love of God, CIG, can you not Archer every loving thing in your game?

Eh, they bought the rights for that one.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 07:00

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

spacetoaster posted:

I honestly don't think it could be sold to a developer at this point.

Just for discussion let's say EA bought it. How could they turn a profit? They'd have to somehow make back the money they spent buying it, then finishing development. And they wouldn't be able to make people who already own packages re-buy anything.

I would think CIG's whale "list" might be worth some money, but I just don't see anyone wanting to touch this failure with a 10 foot pole.

No one will touch this with a ten foot pole except maybe some social media/mobile game development outfit who will then proceed to poo poo on all backers dreams and turn out some turd that requires you to use your Facebook account to login.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 07:04

HycoCam: Jul 14, 2016; You should have backed Transverse!

boviscopophobic posted:

I really like the blanket design in the Misc Prospector reveal and also in the Starfarer, as shown in these screenshots.

It is actually pretty funny they put that blanket in game. I remember the pictures of the grown man curled up in that blanket at the doors to the CitizenCon the night before the event. The photo was staged--but still pretty funny.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 07:07

Blue On Blue: Nov 14, 2012

Am I getting my citizen facts wrong, or was that blanket not in the ~~game~~ tech demo for ages, and that's why Lando has one (for some man child like reason)

# ? Feb 19, 2017 07:47

boviscopophobic: Feb 5, 2016

Sappo569 posted:

Am I getting my citizen facts wrong, or was that blanket not in the ~~game~~ tech demo for ages, and that's why Lando has one (for some man child like reason)

I'm sure it's been there for a while, it just happened to catch my eye in the Prospector video that was released recently.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 08:04

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Sappo569 posted:

Am I getting my citizen facts wrong, or was that blanket not in the ~~game~~ tech demo for ages, and that's why Lando has one (for some man child like reason)

It has been there a while. It was first seen in one of the large ships.

There was even a shitizen who made some good business selling copies of them for 50 bucks or so.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 08:10

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

boviscopophobic posted:

I kind of like the idea that a future spaceman in the year 3000 is going to have a blanket with child's cartoon depictions of space flight in approximately 1965. I mean I know that I personally go to bed every night in my blanket featuring iconography of the empereror Basil II of the Byzantine Empire circa 995AD.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 08:25

AlmightyPants: Mar 14, 2001; King of Scheduling; Pillbug

I'm actually surprised they no showed the PC Gamer thing again. PC Gamer even hyped up that they had CIG. How bad must things be that they're afraid to try and sell their video game to new customers? That's loving weird as hell.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 09:06

HycoCam: Jul 14, 2016; You should have backed Transverse!

Sarsapariller posted:

I kind of like the idea that a future spaceman in the year 3000 is going to have a blanket with child's cartoon depictions of space flight in approximately 1965. I mean I know that I personally go to bed every night in my blanket featuring iconography of the empereror Basil II of the Byzantine Empire circa 995AD.

Not sure what pillow case you are using. This is how I keep my wife from taking my favorite pillow:

https://smile.amazon.com/Bedding-Living-Pillow-Covers-Savage/dp/B015R4YN6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487492641&sr=8-1&keywords=randy+pillow

# ? Feb 19, 2017 09:25

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

boviscopophobic posted:

Possible new development: CIG asked for photo ID before they would issue a refund.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/5umcd9/fredfredbug4_gets_a_refund/

It's just a neckbeard check, move along

Malachite_Dragon posted:

Fallout 4 has its low moments (and buggy moments) but it A) actually exists and B) is, and can be, fun. These are two things (technically three) that Star Citizen will never be.

More importantly, there's a VR version in the works.

Truga fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 09:44

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/pickle67/status/833101067315343360

# ? Feb 19, 2017 10:34

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiBfAy3533U

# ? Feb 19, 2017 10:37

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

lol, Are they asking for ID photos now for refunds?

Maybe, it's cause it has reached the point that they have to go through their our-community-is-great fake/ boring videos to remove segments with the filthy leavers.

Or they are cross-checking if it's really some employee of theirs who is backing out of the game.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 11:36

CrazyLoon: Aug 10, 2015; "..."

<----- mfw reading this thread lately.

Also, I can't imagine my reaction if, back when I issued my refund, CIG responded with: "We want a photo ID of you!" Not even the most demented CS monkey they must have employed nowadays, instead of the somewhat good people they initially had, could think that's a reasonable or even logical thing to ask for.

CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 12:37

biglads: Feb 21, 2007; I could've gone to Blatherwycke

HycoCam posted:

Not sure what pillow case you are using. This is how I keep my wife from taking my favorite pillow:

https://smile.amazon.com/Bedding-Living-Pillow-Covers-Savage/dp/B015R4YN6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487492641&sr=8-1&keywords=randy+pillow

That is truly a work of art. Once the Macho Man lands the big elbow it's 1-2-3 and Hail Satan.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 12:43

Ponzi: Feb 21, 2016; DEPORTED FROM FLAVOR TOWN

ICSA 67 LOSER; Fun Shoe

AbstractNapper posted:

lol, Are they asking for ID photos now for refunds?

Maybe, it's cause it has reached the point that they have to go through their our-community-is-great fake/ boring videos to remove segments with the filthy leavers.

Or they are cross-checking if it's really some employee of theirs who is backing out of the game.

Apparently they are. I think Uncle Derek is checking to see if this is legal.

I do know that sometimes companies cite Anti Money Laundering considerations as a reason to required ID verification (in the UK at least), but as long as someone wants the money returned to the same account from where the payment was made, this isn't a valid justification.

If I had some money in SC that I wanted refunding and they asked for ID, I'd refuse out of principal. If they told me they couldn't refund me without ID, I'd contact Trading Standards/the Citizens' Advice Bureau/The Financial Conduct Authority/my local MP/the Press etc.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 12:51

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Does CIG ask for a photo ID or for any photo? Can one just preventively send them photos of "Chris high" and "Chris on a boat"?

# ? Feb 19, 2017 13:01

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Sarsapariller posted:

I kind of like the idea that a future spaceman in the year 3000 is going to have a blanket with child's cartoon depictions of space flight in approximately 1965. I mean I know that I personally go to bed every night in my blanket featuring iconography of the empereror Basil II of the Byzantine Empire circa 995AD.

Honestly that would be a pretty baller duvet.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 13:51

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/hyenahyenahyena/status/833263128901087232

# ? Feb 19, 2017 13:56

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Yay. SSL cert fixed � time to (re)commence the image spam.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:03

aleksendr: May 14, 2014

Sarsapariller posted:

I kind of like the idea that a future spaceman in the year 3000 is going to have a blanket with child's cartoon depictions of space flight in approximately 1965. I mean I know that I personally go to bed every night in my blanket featuring iconography of the empereror Basil II of the Byzantine Empire circa 995AD.

My best friend wife is a total history nerd (Master in medieval history, Bachelor in asian history, she work as a librarian.) and she would absolutely sqeal with joy if she could have something like this.

Scruffpuff posted:

In addition, there are necessary subsystems and support systems that need to be designed and implemented for mining to have any contextual meaning.

- Player inventory
- Ship inventory (cargo)
- A persistent market economy
- Trade mechanics
- Metals and minerals
- Refining
- Crafting

Without any such systems in the game, what would "mining" possibly be? Point your laser at an asteroid and push a button? Where is that stuff gonna go? What is it used for? True Believers think that the mining ship is Step 1, and all the other stuff is layered on afterward, but it's actually quite the opposite.

Unless your entire goal as a company is based on selling ships. In that case this is the perfect way to go about it. CIG's method of generating income is diametrically opposed to the correct way to design a successful game. The irony is annihilating.

It's a shame CIG didn't find a way to monetize design documents or a functioning game engine.

Mining also tie with the "ultra detailled" ship repair system they promised. Your choice of minerals affecting ship repair quality.

aleksendr fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:15

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Ponzi posted:

Apparently they are. I think Uncle Derek is checking to see if this is legal.

I do know that sometimes companies cite Anti Money Laundering considerations as a reason to required ID verification (in the UK at least), but as long as someone wants the money returned to the same account from where the payment was made, this isn't a valid justification.

If I had some money in SC that I wanted refunding and they asked for ID, I'd refuse out of principal. If they told me they couldn't refund me without ID, I'd contact Trading Standards/the Citizens' Advice Bureau/The Financial Conduct Authority/my local MP/the Press etc.

I already checked. Looks like I posted it on Discord and Twitter yesterday, but not here.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/833021922782937090

It's not legal. That's why banks, Amazon, Microsoft etc, don't go that far when you ask for a refund.

In fact, the FTC has some strict guidelines about that sort of thing; and there is an entire list of companies they've gone after and fined for obtaining user personal info without cause or reason - and not disclosing the reason to the person.

https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/privacy-and-security

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/media-resources/protecting-consumer-privacy/enforcing-privacy-promises

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0272-how-keep-your-personal-information-secure

https://www.privacyrights.org/consumer-guides/privacy-when-shopping

A backer, Hater115, posted a Blizzard link showing they ask for ID. Of course it's not the same thing, because their use is for hacked accounts.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/7006

D_Smart fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:30

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Ho Lee Cow!! :grin:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5uuzxz/it_was_a_bad_day_for_me_and_my_friends_in_star/

https://gfycat.com/BitterCoarseCaimanlizard

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:31

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/hyenahyenahyena/status/833263128901087232

Holy poo poo I'm not sure I want to be agreeing with this guy after reading the rest of his twitter.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:31

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

D_Smart posted:

https://gfycat.com/BitterCoarseCaimanlizard

Huh. I would have thought that a reciprocating bolt or slide would be a good way to soak up recoil and do things with it. This whole giving the operator a concussion is obviously a radical new innovation that the industry has yet to explore fully.

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:41

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# ? May 30, 2024 19:00

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

LOL!! Totally called it! :bahgawd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzmJRyNdDaM

Didn't. See. poo poo.

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/830806201164234752

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/830807154814812162

https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/830807769288757250

D_Smart fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Feb 19, 2017

# ? Feb 19, 2017 14:42

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