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Mezzanine
Aug 23, 2009

Beastie posted:

Please confirm that this is not the Lincoln Park Zoo because I was planning on going and I hate HATE that song.

Well, you're there to look at animals, not listen to the music. So, in the end, it doesn't even matter.

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That70sHeidi
Aug 16, 2009

Fanky Malloons posted:

Can we at least all agree that Feliz Navidad is one of the better Christmas tunes, though?


Maybe if you live in Opposite World. Every single person covers that song, and it literally made me stop browsing in a store and checkout when it came on last week. It sucks, it makes people feel falsely "inclusive of The Others," and oh yeah, it sucks.

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




I made a container for all the terrible holiday garbage everyone loves to hate.

Munchables
Feb 8, 2015

Ask/tell me about legal cannibalism

Mezzanine posted:

Well, you're there to look at animals, not listen to the music. So, in the end, it doesn't even matter.

:golfclap:

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology



Amazing. Thank you.

BobbyK
Jun 4, 2008

by Cyrano4747

That70sHeidi posted:

Maybe if you live in Opposite World. Every single person covers that song, and it literally made me stop browsing in a store and checkout when it came on last week. It sucks, it makes people feel falsely "inclusive of The Others," and oh yeah, it sucks.

Not all Feliz Navidad covers are bad though.

NSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FkjRLO8PK4

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


well this is at least the laziest loving christmas songbortion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xc2NcULOfk

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015

Madkal posted:

If the war on Christmas isn't real then why did this lovely movie get made?

I want to see the sequel to this where instead of fighting the evil atheist they instead have to deal with the satanists putting a statue of Baphomet up.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I just hate Christmas and songs and Facebook posts reminding me of it suck.

Also: that Hawaiian song.

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

chitoryu12 posted:

That's actually a common misconception! The song was written in a time when it would be considered improper for a lady to spend the night at a man's house when they weren't married, and in general women were viewed with a suspicious eye if they did anything vaguely unscrupulous like show independence. The woman's dialogue in the song points out all the reasons why she shouldn't stay even though she wants to, like her gossipy aunt or the neighbors thinking poorly of her. As such, it wasn't uncommon back then for women to pass off such decisions by claiming to be under the influence. Rather than a song about date rape, it's a song about two lovers using the pretext of alcohol and bad weather to spend the evening together without suspicion.

It just looks bad today when this kind of treatment of women has diminished, and we lack the historical context to get it.

This was also a time where it was pretty universally accepted that it was impossible for a man to rape his wife.

Like, I get what you mean, it is meant to be read that way. But that coy flirtation poo poo was also a built in excuse for any guy to say, "but really she wanted it, why else was she alone with me?"

The Relentless
Sep 27, 2002

ANTI KITTY-PORN TASK-FORCE - "It's Hell-Bag eatin' time! Rowwwwrrrr!!!"

Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:

This was also a time where it was pretty universally accepted that it was impossible for a man to rape his wife.

Like, I get what you mean, it is meant to be read that way. But that coy flirtation poo poo was also a built in excuse for any guy to say, "but really she wanted it, why else was she alone with me?"

She had already agreed to stay. They were just making up excuses due to the social constraints of the time. "What's in this drink" is not questioning if there is a roofie. She's just playing along. But I can see how in this day it is interpreted otherwise. Context is important. It was originally sung buy a husband and wife, letting their friends know it was time to go. Unless they wanted to stay and be uncomfortable as they got their freak on.

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

The Relentless posted:

She had already agreed to stay. They were just making up excuses due to the social constraints of the time. "What's in this drink" is not questioning if there is a roofie. She's just playing along. But I can see how in this day it is interpreted otherwise. Context is important. It was originally sung buy a husband and wife, letting their friends know it was time to go. Unless they wanted to stay and be uncomfortable as they got their freak on.

I get it. I understand that because of "reputation", people had to put up a front of acceptability. And I know that's how the song was written. No one is actually suggesting that it was written intending to depict a rape. Everyone is just calling out how convenient it was for awful men of the time that a woman acting coy was the exact same as a woman trying to say no. If you don't think that the idea that a woman had to put on a show of saying no was used as an excuse to commit rape more than a few times in those days, I don't know what to tell you.

Fanky Malloons
Aug 21, 2010

Is your social worker inside that horse?

That70sHeidi posted:

Maybe if you live in Opposite World. Every single person covers that song, and it literally made me stop browsing in a store and checkout when it came on last week. It sucks, it makes people feel falsely "inclusive of The Others," and oh yeah, it sucks.

I like it because it's a welcome break from all the terrible Christmas songs by white people. Of course, by "like" I mean that it doesn't make me instantly want to tear off all my skin and douse my raw flesh with vinegar. It gives me at a reprieve from wishing for death of at least 90 seconds.

The Relentless
Sep 27, 2002

ANTI KITTY-PORN TASK-FORCE - "It's Hell-Bag eatin' time! Rowwwwrrrr!!!"

Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:

I get it. I understand that because of "reputation", people had to put up a front of acceptability. And I know that's how the song was written. No one is actually suggesting that it was written intending to depict a rape. Everyone is just calling out how convenient it was for awful men of the time that a woman acting coy was the exact same as a woman trying to say no. If you don't think that the idea that a woman had to put on a show of saying no was used as an excuse to commit rape more than a few times in those days, I don't know what to tell you.

I get it. It's sad. Just commenting on the song which wasn't about that.

Now back to our regularly scheduled derail....

genetic_knockout
May 8, 2007

Who's a good boy
Can we not have this derail in this thread too?

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
Two different baby it's old outside derails at the same time. Let's have a war on Christmas in the forums.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

MOD discussion - should we ban tax supporters?

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:

I get it. I understand that because of "reputation", people had to put up a front of acceptability. And I know that's how the song was written. No one is actually suggesting that it was written intending to depict a rape. Everyone is just calling out how convenient it was for awful men of the time that a woman acting coy was the exact same as a woman trying to say no. If you don't think that the idea that a woman had to put on a show of saying no was used as an excuse to commit rape more than a few times in those days, I don't know what to tell you.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Obama is too low to be ranked or something?

The Relentless
Sep 27, 2002

ANTI KITTY-PORN TASK-FORCE - "It's Hell-Bag eatin' time! Rowwwwrrrr!!!"

This is why I don't understand IQ test results.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


I wonder why Ulysses S. Grant is at the bottom. Weird.

Fanky Malloons
Aug 21, 2010

Is your social worker inside that horse?

Subjunctive posted:

Obama is too low to be ranked or something?

BURN.

I enjoy this even more given that my husband gives IQ tests to people as part of his job, and can confirm that the most common test was developed in 1955, and the scale only goes up to 130-ish.

HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.
Fun Shoe
Can someone point me in the direction of all of these women with "volcanically powerful sexual impulses", please?

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

Subjunctive posted:

Obama is too low to be ranked or something?

I don't see any non-caucasian people on that list, but it is heavily artifacted and furthermore

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Civilizations are by definition at their peak when in the process of domestication of undesirables. Eventually this leads to a cultural and moral idiocracy of the populace. Happened with every single "civil"ization throughout the entire history of mankind.

Egyptians (slavery, mass social inequality, the influence of Christianity and Islam destroyed Egyptian culture), Greeks (homosexuality and degeneracy), Mesopotamians (overcrowding leading to pollution and drought (same thing is happening to Egypt currently)), Mayans (overpopulation, social unrest and tribal warfare), Aztecs (ritual sacrifices leading to the death of its working class), Chinese Empire (opium trade and addiction), various Indian empires (slavery, social and class inequalities), Romans (slaves had more rights by the end of the Roman Empire, privileged classes cared more about loving everybody than teaching their children values (also the reason Christianity was able to fill the societal void after Rome fell; it taught familial unity and moral virtues, even though the source material itself was suspect). All of these civilizations are similar in that all of them are inevitably overpopulated due to an excess of resources gathered by the vast minority constituents of the state (i.e. farmers, traders), and thus when the inevitable breaking point comes the majority of the civilization cannot survive on their own. This is exacerbated by social and class divides that are rarely found in tribal and other much smaller societies.

Modern western civilization is just another case of overpopulation, social and class divides, and a great cultural degeneracy of ungrateful and disrespectful constituents. The liberals in America and Western Europe are creating corporate slaves of the populace, flooding their countries with biologically and socially unfit individuals (the poorest and stupidest and thus the future of their new countries), and teaching their children that history is irrelevant and nationalism is irrelevant. The vast majority of these people would not be able to survive if not for the parental supervision and provision of excess resources that are characteristic of civilization. Why do you think that the most overpopulated areas on Earth are also the poorest? Because they would not be able to survive at any other point in history if not for "civil"ization.

Multiculturalism, i.e. "civil"ization, is the death of humanity. And ultimately the death of the planet if we assume that the use of thousands of nukes in wartime is an inevitability.

All you have to do is look at modern multiracial and multicultural societies: India, Brazil, South Africa. Mass class divides and no one group cares about another group more than their own ethnic group. You can't have a country with hundreds of ethnic groups that's governed only by a few (like India) and not expect an imbalance in power and massive political corruption. South Africa has big problems with nepotism and its government not trusting the white populace. Brazil has poverty, race and class divides, race wars.

This may be the reason for "The Great Filter", the cause of why civilizations cannot reach their full potential, because the sheer numbers of domesticated inhabitants that make up a civilization are what lead to its downfall as well. It's a matter of quantity vs. quality of the constituents of a group of people.

The west cannot thrive without the spoils of war, which means that World War 3 is an inevitability, if not with Trump then with someone else 20-30 years down the line when this crony and imperialist capitalism starts to collapse in on itself.

Rise and fall. Alternate universes and realities. Same outcomes.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Well i hope we can all agree that non denominational Snowflake Day will be a much better replacement for Christmas

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Hihohe posted:

Well i hope we can all agree that non denominational Snowflake Day will be a much better replacement for Christmas

I dunno, Meatshanks We Have Heard on High is pretty terrible too.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

i have heard asians have really poor hygiene compared to jews

Je suis fatigue
May 5, 2009

Amazing! It's a double J.O.!

Henchman of Santa posted:

I dunno, Meatshanks We Have Heard on High is pretty terrible too.
A henchman of santa would say that, nice try buddy

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Oct 30, 2009

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Decrepus posted:

I wonder why Ulysses S. Grant is at the bottom. Weird.

He was stupid

Serge Painsbourg
Jul 26, 2016

This is the only acceptable Christmas song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOanPoEek4

Merry loving Christmas. :unsmigghh:

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Serge Painsbourg posted:

This is the only acceptable Christmas song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOanPoEek4

Merry loving Christmas. :unsmigghh:

I never watched again because after the first viewing I've had recurring anxiety attacks that summon images of my highschool crush being rammed by a thicc green ogre dick while shrek looks at me and yells "This is MY SWAMP NOW". Definitely an example of chad propaganda

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Serge Painsbourg posted:

This is the only acceptable Christmas song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOanPoEek4

Merry loving Christmas. :unsmigghh:

I see that and raise a Weird Al:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU

Serge Painsbourg
Jul 26, 2016

Lottery of Babylon posted:

I never watched again because after the first viewing I've had recurring anxiety attacks that summon images of my highschool crush being rammed by a thicc green ogre dick while shrek looks at me and yells "This is MY SWAMP NOW". Definitely an example of chad propaganda

:laffo:

Mushika
Dec 22, 2010

Serge Painsbourg posted:

This is the only acceptable Christmas song.

Merry loving Christmas. :unsmigghh:

This is unironically my favorite X-mas song this year. I love Merzbow and I hate christmas music. Well, mostly.

Serge Painsbourg
Jul 26, 2016

Mushika posted:

This is unironically my favorite X-mas song this year. I love Merzbow and I hate christmas music. Well, mostly.

It's from an entire album of noise artists doing Christmas covers. Melt Banana covers "White Christmas," which is great.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBq8geuJk0

At least it's not a thanksgiving song.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Ibogaine posted:

Does anyone actually believe in the "war on christmas"?

After all, this conservative fairy tale of "Liberals want to destroy christmas" has been going on for at least a decade or two, which never had existed outside of their own heads and the kind of creepy urban tales that conservatives whisper to each other beneath the christmas tree. Yet, even there is no substance to any of that, they still go on and on and on about it.

Yes, many people believe in it. You gotta remember that there are large areas of the country where Christianity is so thoroughly entrenched that nobody really pays it any mind as anything other than just normal life, and also a fairly decent chunk of people within those areas who genuinely believe that Christianity* is the one okay thing to do, and literally everything else is something Satan is doing to get people to not be Christians.

For the former group, it's just freaking out because "Things were normal before and then we let the Hannukah and Kwanzaa people do their thing and that was fine and we all got along, but now people are saying it's bad to say Merry Christmas and I don't understand why so I think it's bullshit." (These also tend to be people who have not knowingly spoken to any non-Christians in their daily lives.)

For the latter, it's an extension of the idea that there's this constant war with the forces of Satan because Satan is evil and so we have to oppose him, and we can tell Satan stuff because it's basically anything that makes you feel a strong emotion and/or something other than what you grew up with.

In both cases, it's really easy to feel like your normal life is being heavily altered by outside forces for dubious reasons, because your life is spent in a little bubble where you don't have to spend a lot of time around anyone of a significantly different background.

*Defined as "whatever branch of Christianity I, personally, subscribe to"

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Greeks (homosexuality and degeneracy),

YEAH, GAYNESS WAS SOMETHING GREEKS IMPORTED

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Xen Tricks
Nov 4, 2010

Serge Painsbourg posted:

This is the only acceptable Christmas song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBOanPoEek4

Merry loving Christmas. :unsmigghh:

There's a Merzbow christmas song oh my god I love you

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