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meanwhile in Poland https://twitter.com/astroehlein/status/929661882054660097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Useful to know if only takes about 70 years for humans to unlearn any lessons from the evils of the past. I wonder what goofed up poo poo the Nazis will get up to in 70 years now, supposing Earth still exists.
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Krabboss posted:Useful to know if only takes about 70 years for humans to unlearn any lessons from the evils of the past. I wonder what goofed up poo poo the Nazis will get up to in 70 years now, supposing Earth still exists. liberalism
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freckle posted:liberalism jesus christ
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Poland never learned the lessons of WWII, the lesson they learned was that the fine upstanding polish people were cruelly forced to do evil things by outsiders and were totally blameless and innocent of any wrongdoing
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Kurtofan posted:meanwhile in Poland the tankies are right
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I can't find this in the online version, but the print Washington Post has an article about an upcoming Charlottesville documentary entitled "Taking Their Narrative Back."quote:"One common element we found in talking to everyone in this film is that everybody felt that they were in the right ... Whether it was clergy or antifa or alt-right or militia. This was somehow a place where they all thought that they were the good guys." I am still amazed at the ability of centrists to equivocate peaceful protest and terrorism. Of course, they want to erase the narratives of leftists who were actually there to make this garbage.
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GoluboiOgon posted:I can't find this in the online version, but the print Washington Post has an article about an upcoming Charlottesville documentary entitled "Taking Their Narrative Back." Wow, what a unique concept, everyone thinks they're the good guys, no one has heard of this one before.
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Nov 12, 2017 15:27
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you know who else did what he thought was right
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Panzeh posted:Wow, what a unique concept, everyone thinks they're the good guys, no one has heard of this one before. Luckily we have the bravely objective liberal filmmakers to equivocate regarding attempted defense against murderous nazis. Oh wise white people with masters degrees! Truly you are the measure of all things!
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:you know who else did what he thought was right the guy in his avatar?
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I'm the guy who thinks people regularly go around thinking their opinions are wrong and that they're bad people. I'm surprised to discover that people, somehow, think the things they believe are good and true.
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Kurtofan posted:meanwhile in Poland http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.com.au/2015/09/russian-politicians-building.html the claim is that russia is essentially attempting to construct neo-nazi version of the comintern, and it's not entirely unfounded
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rudatron posted:a blog linked in the replies is interesting: saying something isn't "entirely unfounded" is code for bullshit
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putin actually tried to kowtow to leftists first and there were a few biters but not many actually cared enough to express a hateboner for their home countries, then shortly afterwards figured out right-wingers from many places were easy to flip
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they have direct documentary evidence, and I think there's definitely circumstantial evidence w.r.t Russia and the US election, brexit, and so on, to suggest that it's more broadly true. I think it's becoming more and more obvious that Russian foreign policy is guided by the goal of building an international, far-right network of political groups across Europe and America. Whether that's because it believes that's going to grant Russia more favorable terms in relations with the west, or it's the result of explicitly adopting that ideology and wanting to spread it, or if it's an attempt to divide up the groups that are its main geopolitical rivals, the motivations aren't clear. It may be a combinational of all 3. But its actions speak for themselves.
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the polish neonazis aren't going to cozy up to Russia. The Eastern European Right hates Russians almost as much as they hate Jews.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:the polish neonazis aren't going to cozy up to Russia. The Eastern European Right hates Russians almost as much as they hate Jews. the other part was that his russian mob surrogate handouts weren't exactly subtle to their right-wing base
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the Russians definitely do want to start up a League of Extraordinary Assholes with other right wing political parties, but calling it a"Comintern for Neonazis" is stupid.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:the polish neonazis aren't going to cozy up to Russia. The Eastern European Right hates Russians almost as much as they hate Jews. Yes, such an alliance would be just as crazy as an alliance between Nazis and the Soviet Union. That would never happen! Politics makes strange bedfellows, and the Poles hate the Ukrainians as much if not more than they hate the Russians, so don't rule out an alliance based solely on mutual dislike.
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no, they definitely hate jews, muslims and liberals more. the linked blog had a document showing that polish far right groups had been invited to this 'national conservative' forum, and that includes 'falange', which is that weird totally-not-a-swaztika thing you see in the twitter photo
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:the Russians definitely do want to start up a League of Extraordinary Assholes with other right wing political parties, but calling it a"Comintern for Neonazis" is stupid.
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GoluboiOgon posted:Yes, such an alliance would be just as crazy as an alliance between Nazis and the Soviet Union. That would never happen! This is not an appropriate comparison for any number of reasons, but chiefly as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was an impromptu affair that both parties considered to be a short-term expedient which sooner or later one or both would break. Stalin and Hitler both considered mutual coexistence impossible, in Hitler's case because that's who he was, and in Stalin's because he'd read Mein Kampf and considered that when Hitler wrote in it "my chief goal in life is to roll Eastward and carve out a settle empire from the corpses of the filthy subhumans living there and also to be clear I don't just mean Poland here," he wasn't just joking around. The pact itself came about because Hitler needed to secure his eastern flank in case the Western Allies decided to get off their asses and do something when he invaded Poland (which he figured they wouldn't), and Stalin needed to buy time to finish the reforms of the Red Army which he'd started earlier in the 30s after the purges (and also wanted an excuse to snatch up the Baltic states, a chance for which the pact afforded). The current state of affairs in eastern Europe does not mirror either that of the USSR and Third Reich in 1939, nor the geopolitical stage on which the M-R Pact came about. Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 16:48 on Nov 12, 2017 |
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GoluboiOgon posted:Yes, such an alliance would be just as crazy as an alliance between Nazis and the Soviet Union. That would never happen!
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Vic Berger is the hero we need
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vic doesn't realize yet that twitter is being run by an incel nazi
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logikv9 posted:vic doesn't realize yet that twitter is being run by an incel nazi "Bitch don't you know who I am? I'M JACK FROM TWITTER!"
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:"Bitch don't you know who I am? I'M JACK FROM TWITTER!" this, except it's notch and he's trying to impress them with stories about making minecraft
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"Yes you see, I see and play Infiniminer? And I copy it."
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Zeroisanumber posted:Twitter's admins are so loving cowardly it'd be funny if there weren't awful consequences.
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rudatron posted:they have direct documentary evidence, and I think there's definitely circumstantial evidence w.r.t Russia and the US election, brexit, and so on, to suggest that it's more broadly true. I think it's becoming more and more obvious that Russian foreign policy is guided by the goal of building an international, far-right network of political groups across Europe and America. Whether that's because it believes that's going to grant Russia more favorable terms in relations with the west, or it's the result of explicitly adopting that ideology and wanting to spread it, or if it's an attempt to divide up the groups that are its main geopolitical rivals, the motivations aren't clear. It may be a combinational of all 3. But its actions speak for themselves. It's definitely a little bit of all three. The easy part is whipping idiots into a nationalist frenzy; the hard(er) part is capitalizing on that after any fallout/collapse/shift that occurs. Given everything we've seen so far, these groups may not be directly FUNDED by Russia, but I assure you there's at least one high Handler sitting somewhere in those ranks to facilitate Benefits.
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logikv9 posted:vic doesn't realize yet that twitter is being run by an incel nazi their cofounder started the proud boys, why would they care
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:putin actually tried to kowtow to leftists first and there were a few biters but not many actually cared enough to express a hateboner for their home countries, then shortly afterwards figured out right-wingers from many places were easy to flip like this RT article on the nazi march in poland. https://www.rt.com/news/409589-poland-independence-far-right-march/ the lede is "Loud, racist and extreme-right activists have hijacked Poland’s Independence Day celebrations in Warsaw." the headline for the video on the anti-fascist counter-protest is "Poland: Anti-fascist demo counters nationalist march in Warsaw." to say the anti-fascists countered the march is positive spin. of course, giving attention to the far-right in poland also benefits russia, since the russian government would be happy to see a wedge between poland and NATO. "crazy nazis on run amok in poland" etc. etc. "poland scary."
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:"Yes you see, I see and play Infiniminer? And I copy it." what makes me furious is the guy who made that should be a billionaire because his games are so good
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Al! posted:what makes me furious is the guy who made that should be a billionaire because his games are so good i mean, at least i assume, i cant get very far in em
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