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Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

When is xboneX getting VR? Like, I’ve never used VR and I want to play some of these immersive experiences.

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univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Auron posted:

why the gently caress is there no patch 2 months after launch

Devs are lazy, basically. They dragged their feet on PS4 Pro patches too, and that had bigger sales numbers.

Blind Rasputin posted:

When is xboneX getting VR? Like, I’ve never used VR and I want to play some of these immersive experiences.

Given Microsoft completely discontinued Kinect, I'm guessing it's not happening with them this gen.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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VR is already on its last legs. Expect a reduced presence at CES next week.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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univbee posted:

Devs are lazy, basically. They dragged their feet on PS4 Pro patches too, and that had bigger sales numbers.

Japanese developers seem especially slow to do 4k stuff too. Not all of them, but it's less likely.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

Is 4k even a thing over there, I wouldn't think so. It's already a niche market here.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


UnfortunateSexFart posted:

VR is already on its last legs. Expect a reduced presence at CES next week.

No it's not.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

VR probably has about as much appeal to normal humans as 3D movies (none)

Except for porn of course

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


VR naysayers are going to look like a bunch of morons in 5 years.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




RBX posted:

Is 4k even a thing over there, I wouldn't think so. It's already a niche market here.

It is, and more than here (like they actually have 4K non-sports channels), but not by much. Complicating matters is I don't think many people have big screens there, it's mostly 30-something inches at most from what I've seen which is limiting for harnessing 4K goodness.

I also don't believe any actual Japanese movies other than Your Name have even been released on 4K UHD (and some of those pretty scenery discs).

Hell, now that I think about it, there are a really loving small number of non-American movies that have been released on the format full stop. I think it's just the odd older movie that happened to have a well-timed 4K restoration, like Suspiria.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Just got an XBOX S. Can I put Netflix or another video app in a small window while I play? I thought that was a feature.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




TraderStav posted:

I thought that was a feature.

Emphasis mine. It got removed so they could squeeze a little more performance out of the system.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Auron posted:

I decided to play RE7 and then immediately laughed and shut it off because it looks like complete poo poo (no XbonX patch yet). Minecraft level pixelated foliage. Gonna wait for the patch and play TEW2 instead.

why the gently caress is there no patch 2 months after launch

Its fun tho

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Blind Rasputin posted:

When is xboneX getting VR? Like, I’ve never used VR and I want to play some of these immersive experiences.


Phil said not to hold your breath last year because something about it not being ready for consoles until it can be wireless and easy or some other sour grapes about hq not letting him compete with sony cause the big wigs are more interested in doing AR. Univbee probably has the quote ready to go but i dont remember it

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

The opening outdoors bit of RE7 is really rough looking on all versions, even PC, due to the anti-aliasing solution it uses. It gets better once you get indoors a few minutes into the game.

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

Blind Rasputin posted:

When is xboneX getting VR? Like, I’ve never used VR and I want to play some of these immersive experiences.

Microsoft does have a full VR platform on PC that seems like it wouldn’t be that crazy to look at moving over, but yeah, who knows at this point.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
VR's future, if it has one, lies in cheap ($200) self-contained units with phone hardware that just do wraparound video or simpler-than-AAA-games 3D graphics. It's looking pretty obvious that the "hook it up to powerful hardware and ideally give it a room of your house" paradigm isn't going to catch on the way they want. Most of those PSVRs are already collecting dust.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
Microsoft already has Hololens that's supposed to come out eventually. and cost $5000.

Eventually you're supposed to be able to stream your Xbox one to a PC and use an Oculus Rift to play your xbox one games in a nicer VR living room.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

TheScott2K posted:

VR's future, if it has one, lies in cheap ($200) self-contained units with phone hardware that just do wraparound video or simpler-than-AAA-games 3D graphics. It's looking pretty obvious that the "hook it up to powerful hardware and ideally give it a room of your house" paradigm isn't going to catch on the way they want. Most of those PSVRs are already collecting dust.

Its hilarious when people post things like this.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


TheScott2K posted:

It's looking pretty obvious that the "hook it up to powerful hardware and ideally give it a room of your house" paradigm isn't going to catch on the way they want. Most of those PSVRs are already collecting dust.

This is just ridiculous. PSVR sold over 2 million units in less than a year and has had an almost constant stream of game releases including some AAA stuff. Do you have anything to back this up other than wild assumptions?

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Do you think there'll be more VR stuff at CES this year than last?

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Don't worry guys Kinect plastic guitars balance board voice commands 3D VR is definitely the future of gaming

Healbot
Jul 7, 2006

very very very fucjable
very vywr very


veni veni veni posted:

This is just ridiculous. PSVR sold over 2 million units in less than a year and has had an almost constant stream of game releases including some AAA stuff. Do you have anything to back this up other than wild assumptions?

Yeah and right about NYE the novelty has worn off. VR is done, better luck in 20 years.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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GUI posted:

The opening outdoors bit of RE7 is really rough looking on all versions, even PC, due to the anti-aliasing solution it uses. It gets better once you get indoors a few minutes into the game.

listen man im not playing the scrub version of a game on my 500 dollar most powerful console ever

i tried vr and its meh and i will never buy one until its out of early access

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Do you think there'll be more VR stuff at CES this year than last?

Probably not much? A bunch of new headsets came out in the last year. Do they need to be replaced already?

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

veni veni veni posted:

This is just ridiculous. PSVR sold over 2 million units in less than a year and has had an almost constant stream of game releases including some AAA stuff. Do you have anything to back this up other than wild assumptions?

The amount of exaggeration about game selection in this post sure seems to back it up.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Instant Sunrise posted:

Microsoft already has Hololens that's supposed to come out eventually. and cost $5000.

Eventually you're supposed to be able to stream your Xbox one to a PC and use an Oculus Rift to play your xbox one games in a nicer VR living room.

The Xbox living room is not nearly as nice as my real one.

Maybe put some Bang & Olufsen in there and we can talk, Microsoft.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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CES is about future trends, not imminent releases. Like we'll probably not see much of smartwatches this year either after a few years of being predicted to be the next big thing. That makes me sad, I love smartwatches. But I can see they just aren't taking off. I think VR is in the same boat. Some people love it, but the majority aren't playing it and the future looks grim. That's just my prediction, I can understand wanting to see it succeed if you love VR.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

He means the future looks like playing Grim Dawn in a postage stamp 2 feet from your face.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I'm not some bloomberg analyst sitting here with spreadsheets, but I've seen enough attempts at New poo poo to be able to get a sense of what's "working right now" and what's actually taking hold. VR seems to be in the former category. Kinect 1.0 (and especially the Wii) sold a lot of units, too, but the public got their fill of it, maybe checked in a couple of years later, saw that it was still basically the same thing, and said "nah I'm good." If the games can't get past their current cockpit sims/rail shooters/teleport-for-movement rut with something compelling that has more than an hour of novelty, it's going to fade away. I'd love to be surprised by some brilliant new paradigm of gaming, but adding a bad VR mode to existing Gamebryo RPGs and making VR bonus content for games that are otherwise played on a screen isn't going to keep this alive, and indies need to make their money back too. The anti-social aspect of it really hurts its long-term prospects for being a mass consumer product, IMO. At least with the Wii people would have fun together. With VR, the "social" version of it is a group of people taking turns putting their head in the thing.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

They just need a VR edition of that Japanese game where you sneak upskirt photos and gaming will be saved.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


TheScott2K posted:

The amount of exaggeration about game selection in this post sure seems to back it up.

How is that an exaggeration at all? There's around 150 games for PSVR, including a few AAA titles. Dozens of them are good. I have about 35 games for it and all but a couple are really solid, and there are still a good chunk of well received games I haven't even gotten around to buying . I've never run out of stuff to play and there is plenty of stuff on the way.

Along with selling 2 million units. How is any of that damning for a 1 year old platform?

Nothing you have said seems based in anything but your own bias.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

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veni veni veni posted:


Along with selling 2 million units. How is any of that damning for a 1 year old platform?


It's only 2 million units lol. People called the Xbone a failure when it sold 10 million units in 3 months, and now we're supposed to believe 2 million in 12 is good? Take a hike.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The Xbox has yet to sell 10 million units.

BrownieVK
Nov 10, 2009

Eat my ass

veni veni veni posted:

How is that an exaggeration at all? There's around 150 games for PSVR, including a few AAA titles. Dozens of them are good. I have about 35 games for it and all but a couple are really solid, and there are still a good chunk of well received games I haven't even gotten around to buying . I've never run out of stuff to play and there is plenty of stuff on the way.

Along with selling 2 million units. How is any of that damning for a 1 year old platform?

Nothing you have said seems based in anything but your own bias.

Lol you have 35 games just for your virtual boy? I don't think I have that many across PS4, Xbone, and the Switch. You seem really mad that not everyone believes in the glorious psvr experience.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




TheScott2K posted:

With VR, the "social" version of it is a group of people taking turns putting their head in the thing.

This mostly just requires getting clever with your game design to allow for it, it works pretty well with Playroom VR in its various incarnations especially for Mario Party-like 1-vs-everyone else stuff, especially since the PS4 does explicitly output something to the TV as well (usually the same image as in the headset but some games do allow distinct visuals on the TV too).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itIlxFaBkcM

And you have neat stuff like "Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes" which it also works very well for.

There are definitely some stricter single player-only titles but then the same is true of non-VR games, and even then there's shenanigans you can get up to in a social environment for it, like watching someone lose their goddamn mind roaming around in Resident Evil VII.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




fishmech posted:

It's only 2 million units lol. People called the Xbone a failure when it sold 10 million units in 3 months, and now we're supposed to believe 2 million in 12 is good? Take a hike.

Yeah they are very comparable products

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
VR isn't replacing TV gaming you maroons, it's a separate thing. I don't know why you spergs can't understand that. While we're comparing numbers of things that aren't comparable, the VR thread has been open 2.5 times longer than this thread but has six times as many pages. I guess consoles are dead now.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Some of y'all dropped some serious money on VR poo poo huh

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


BrownieVK posted:

Lol you have 35 games just for your virtual boy? I don't think I have that many across PS4, Xbone, and the Switch. You seem really mad that not everyone believes in the glorious psvr experience.

I don't care if someone isn't interested in VR. it's not for everyone and it's still sort of niche and flawed. But, as evidenced by this thread, people that call it a failure almost universally have no idea what they are talking about. Sorry you have no games. maybe your mom will hook you up and buy you one if you clean the garage.

fishmech posted:

It's only 2 million units lol. People called the Xbone a failure when it sold 10 million units in 3 months, and now we're supposed to believe 2 million in 12 is good? Take a hike.

yeah, those things are super comparable, ya dope.

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univbee
Jun 3, 2004




TheScott2K posted:

Some of y'all dropped some serious money on VR poo poo huh

Less than $499 at least.

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