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P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

large hands posted:

we need to ban back yard pools and trampolines, think of the children

And yet, I can't fill my bathtub up all the way, for my own safety. :canada:

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P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Helsing posted:

I think this can be seen as a teachable moment regarding how our political parties end up behaving in the ways that they do. My biggest issue with the Green Party has always been my suspicion that the closer they get to influence and power, the more they'll come to resemble the other political parties.

Wait, the green party is close to power? :raise:

Chicken
Apr 23, 2014

P.d0t posted:

Wait, the green party is close to power? :raise:

It wouldn't be impossible for them to have the balance of power in a minority government situation. Or BC will vote in the Greens next election because they can't possibly be worse than Christy Clark or the BCNDP.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

P.d0t posted:

Wait, the green party is close to power? :raise:

Not in the sense of forming government or even influencing policy, but the national party is an established enough brand that controlling it confers certain advantages to at least a handful of people.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Helsing posted:

That seems to be one small part of a larger story about an internal power struggle over the party's relationship to the BDS movement though?

If the story is the entire BDS kerfuffle, I don't know how the takeaway can be "the Greens are behaving too much like a competent party". There was a contentious resolution at convention. Instead of organising to defeat it like any other normal party establishment would have, by lining up speakers and validators and all the things parties do to get the results they want at conventions, the GPC just kinda ignored that it was going on and then was blindsided by a result their only MP wouldn't accept and got a few bad news stories out of it. That's not too much professionalisation, it's too little.

And really, it's not much of a struggle - one side holds all the cards. Elizabeth May does not need the Green Party for anything other than fundraising between elections, but the Greens really need Elizabeth May. She just kinda gets to do whatever she wants and dare the membership to remove her, without any kind of counterbalance like caucus or regional players to rein her in.

The story was brought up today, though, as evidence that May is screwing up somehow, but she's just doing what's best for her by refusing to publicly engage with Ricochet over the really pathetically silly issue of her saying that Alex is not worth engaging with in emails. Ethan publishing an op-ed that's just a long whine about The Tyee getting an interview while he doesn't and how it's a disrespect to the 12,000 people who read his explosive #greenleaks story is not even close to a serious issue for her.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/28/ontario-minister-says-opposition-to-nestle-water-taking-based-on-misinformation_n_12235180.html

Wow guys Liz Sandals is here to explain how we're all dumb for disliking Nestle and actually they're just a poor plucky little misunderstand megacorporation.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Oh wow even canlit got involved!!! Don't gently caress with Margaret Atwood's water u guys

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

crackton posted:

Shank my dog, I'll eat your kid.

See you're joking but I'm not, I'd get a suspended sentence or community service and a 'fine' :qq:

actually come to think of it, you can simply :airquote: accidentally :airquote: hit someone with a car then drink a bunch of booze following the accident to blow over the limit.

#realchange #drewjitsu

Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Sep 29, 2016

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Risky Bisquick posted:

See you're joking but I'm not, I'd get a suspended sentence or community service and a 'fine' :qq:

actually come to think of it, you can simply :airquote: accidentally :airquote: hit someone with a car then drink a bunch of booze following the accident to blow over the limit.

#realchange #drewjitsu

Or just be a cop when you hit someone with your car.

quote:

Just after 5:00 p.m., the subject officer had finished escorting some vehicles through the debris when he proceeded south on the highway to just before the intersection of 25 Sideroad and parked on the west side of the southbound lanes, straddling the curb lane and the shoulder of the highway.

Mr. Brian Henderson was driving southbound on Highway 10 on his motorcycle. He slowed as he approached the cruiser and was within 20 metres of it when the officer made a U-turn from the southbound curb lane to the northbound side of the road.

Mr. Henderson applied his brakes and his motorcycle went into a skid and ended up on its side, sliding towards and then striking the front left side of the police cruiser. Mr. Henderson was hurled from his motorcycle and landed on the roadway. He was transported to hospital and later underwent surgery for spinal injuries.

Acting Director Martino said, “There are no reasonable grounds to charge the subject officer with the offence of dangerous driving under section 249 of the Criminal Code. The officer made an abrupt U-turn and cut in front of Mr. Henderson suddenly and unexpectedly. That said, the evidence falls short of indicating anything more than momentary inattentiveness on the officer’s part. That is not sufficient to satisfy the criminal fault requirement for dangerous driving of a marked departure from the objective norm. As such, no charges will issue.”

http://www.siu.on.ca/en/news_template.php?nrid=2806

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

vyelkin posted:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/28/ontario-minister-says-opposition-to-nestle-water-taking-based-on-misinformation_n_12235180.html

Wow guys Liz Sandals is here to explain how we're all dumb for disliking Nestle and actually they're just a poor plucky little misunderstand megacorporation.

Bunch of rural nimbys. Bloo windmills are loud, boo electricity is too expensive, bloo I can't have 8 showers a day. My condo in Toronto has tons of water, rurals are dumb.

Risky Bisquick posted:

See you're joking but I'm not, I'd get a suspended sentence or community service and a 'fine' :qq:

actually come to think of it, you can simply :airquote: accidentally :airquote: hit someone with a car then drink a bunch of booze following the accident to blow over the limit.

#realchange #drewjitsu

I don't think you'd get charged with anything for shanking a dog that was actively attacking your kid. The big one to watch out for would be having a shiv in the first place, maybe you carry a utility knife for work or something. Ontario case law is pretty lenient towards people who kill dogs, it's flat out perfectly legal to murder a dog that's attacking your livestock so I imagine kids would be okay too.

e: not a lawyer, looked into it a lot when I was having problems with trespassing dogs. You can't shoot them just for that. Unless they're in your crops but alas I have no crops.

Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 29, 2016

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

Lobok posted:

Or just be a cop when you hit someone with your car.
Gotta respect the long con.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Honestly I'd just use an asp, which is legal to conceal carry in ON.

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

Risky Bisquick posted:

Honestly I'd just use an asp, which is legal to conceal carry in ON.
I know you mean a collapsible baton, but I prefer my intial mental picture of a venomous snake, conceal-carried in say a cargo pocket, to be hurled at whatever ails you.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Risky Bisquick posted:

Honestly I'd just use an asp, which is legal to conceal carry in ON.

Are they actually legal? Durham police says conceal is nono but it's old, http://www.drps.ca/internet_explorer/guest_book/guest_book_view.asp?ID=583&Page=21

Regardless, your baton's not gonna do anything to an angry pit bull unless maybe the absurdity confuses it momentarily.

quote:

Toronto Police shot and killed a pit bull on Saturday just after 4 p.m. when it attacked a shih tzu and held the small dog down with a “locked-jaw grip,” police said.

Police received a call for an “unknown trouble” at a Toronto Community Housing Corp. home at Winchester Street and Rose Avenue in Cabbagetown, where they saw bystanders “screaming and yelling” while trying to pry the pit bull away from the shih tzu.

The policeman was hitting the dog so hard with his baton that it flung out of his hands but the pit bull would not let go,” said Samantha Thornton, a resident in the area. She said the owner of the shih tzu was in “hysterics.”

According to Ms. Thornton, police shot the dog twice in the leg and when it still didn’t release the shih tzu, they shot it in the head.

http://news.nationalpost.com/toront...p-from-shih-tzu

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
An asp will break bones, so break some legs

For pitbulls just take a pic and report each one to 311/police and follow up to make sure they investigated.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Bunch of rural nimbys. Bloo windmills are loud, boo electricity is too expensive, bloo I can't have 8 showers a day. My condo in Toronto has tons of water, rurals are dumb.

This about sums it up, yeah.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

peter banana posted:

Nominating this post to be the first of the next thread.

Aww :3:

That's me putting my Communication Studies degree to good use after living in a small city dominated by rural/suburban whitebread-as-gently caress people.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 9, 2022

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
It worked for Cpl Robinson, but he has the cop thing to fall back on

Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Sep 9, 2022

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
I have been summoned as a potential juror, I shall remain impartial until I vote guilty.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Sep 9, 2022

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Postess with the Mostest posted:

Are they actually legal? Durham police says conceal is nono but it's old, http://www.drps.ca/internet_explorer/guest_book/guest_book_view.asp?ID=583&Page=21

Regardless, your baton's not gonna do anything to an angry pit bull unless maybe the absurdity confuses it momentarily.

quote:

“The dog that was shot was actually a really friendly dog,” he added.

quote:

Milena J. Szwaczynska-Dwyer · Eastern Michigan University
This article is a propaganda against pit bulls. Small dogs are so much more agressive then large dogs but they just do less damage. When a large dog grabs a small dog - it ususally will not release it and it will shake it like a rug doll. The shaking kills the small dog. If the dog releases the victim from the first grip, there is a chance for little damage. From my experience, the small dogs always initiate the conflict by chasing and attacking the large dogs as they pass by.

Brannock fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Sep 29, 2016

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Oh are we talking about police killings? How about his guy, acquitted for hitting and killing a "jaywalker" while speeding after a van because he was, uh, late for a non-urgent surveillance mission:

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/09/21/york-cop-acquitted-in-2014-death-of-jaywalker.html

Also not lol at repeatedly calling the victim a jaywalker for not using a crosswalk 70 metres away when TPS notes that 30m is the standard definition and that it's not actually a meaningful legal term. Oops.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

eXXon posted:

Oh are we talking about police killings? How about his guy, acquitted for hitting and killing a "jaywalker" while speeding after a van because he was, uh, late for a non-urgent surveillance mission:

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/09/21/york-cop-acquitted-in-2014-death-of-jaywalker.html

Also not lol at repeatedly calling the victim a jaywalker for not using a crosswalk 70 metres away when TPS notes that 30m is the standard definition and that it's not actually a meaningful legal term. Oops.

The other part that I hated hearing was this, from the defence lawyer, which is straight out of the pedestrian-blaming playbook that always gets used:

quote:

She was wearing dark clothes and possibly had headphones on, he said.

On Twitter whenever there's a story about a car crashing into a building or patio you can count on people to ask "was the building wearing dark clothing?"

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
That was always weird when I used to cycle in downtown Toronto andI would periodically get clipped by cars and taxis. I always called the cops and told the driver to wait. Then the cops would show up and tell me off for calling because I wasn't injured or the damgae wasn't over $600. Like, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to hit anyone with your car at any time. Not even just a little bit.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe

Lobok posted:

On Twitter whenever there's a story about a car crashing into a building or patio you can count on people to ask "was the building wearing dark clothing?"

That slutty building should have kept its legs together

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

peter banana posted:

That was always weird when I used to cycle in downtown Toronto andI would periodically get clipped by cars and taxis. I always called the cops and told the driver to wait. Then the cops would show up and tell me off for calling because I wasn't injured or the damgae wasn't over $600. Like, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to hit anyone with your car at any time. Not even just a little bit.
From my experience with motor vehicle accidents, it's kind of on their dispatcher to ask you if there were any injuries or damage over [x] threshold. I've heard plenty of stories where the dispatcher just flat out tells the caller the cops won't be showing up and that the caller can show up to the detachment to file a report if they like.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Cycling is safe guys

quote:

Cars hit 1,083[reported] Toronto pedestrians, cyclists since June

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

PittTheElder posted:

It can be, but it won't be.

No it cannot lol

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Pinterest Mom posted:

If the story is the entire BDS kerfuffle, I don't know how the takeaway can be "the Greens are behaving too much like a competent party". There was a contentious resolution at convention. Instead of organising to defeat it like any other normal party establishment would have, by lining up speakers and validators and all the things parties do to get the results they want at conventions, the GPC just kinda ignored that it was going on and then was blindsided by a result their only MP wouldn't accept and got a few bad news stories out of it. That's not too much professionalisation, it's too little.

Your only take on this entire incident is critiquing how efficiently the party insiders gutted (or in this case failed to gut) a popular resolution coming from the rank and file. No wonder you didn't see this as a relevant part of the story, it's basically invisible to you I guess.

Are you really that indifferent to the actual conflict over issues or the question of what the relationship should be between party MPs and party members? Do you really directly equate "efficiently containing or screwing over the membership" with "professionalism" and "competence"?

quote:

And really, it's not much of a struggle - one side holds all the cards. Elizabeth May does not need the Green Party for anything other than fundraising between elections, but the Greens really need Elizabeth May. She just kinda gets to do whatever she wants and dare the membership to remove her, without any kind of counterbalance like caucus or regional players to rein her in.

This kind of imbalance is what I was alluding to earlier, so I guess on this point we agree. As a small party begins to gain a bit of traction in the electoral system it becomes dependent on recognizable representatives, much in the way the Green party has grown to depend on Elizabeth May. The result can be the tail wagging the dog -- the MP gets to dictate things to the party membership, when many would feel the relationship ought to go the other way.

But from what I can gather this just doesn't interest you because the idea a political party would be pushing an issue-based agenda rather than just trying to grow its parliamentary representation is obviously not something you think is feasible.

quote:

The story was brought up today, though, as evidence that May is screwing up somehow, but she's just doing what's best for her by refusing to publicly engage with Ricochet over the really pathetically silly issue of her saying that Alex is not worth engaging with in emails. Ethan publishing an op-ed that's just a long whine about The Tyee getting an interview while he doesn't and how it's a disrespect to the 12,000 people who read his explosive #greenleaks story is not even close to a serious issue for her.

Jesus dude, "screwing up somehow"? Did it occur to you that maybe there's an actual ideological conflict here about how the party should be run and what issues it should represent?

When the story was posted me take-away was that the Green's, now having won an actual seat, are already getting as indifferent to party democracy as any of the other parties (the "competent" ones by your reading, though I would not attach that word to the NDP), and in particular that their leader seems way to the right of the party on the Israel-Palestine issue. That to me is not really a story about whether Elizabeth May "screwed up" any more than Harper's bad decisions weren't really about him "screwing up". Not every news story needs to be analyzed through the cliche lense of "did this politician commit a gaffe that we can chuckle over?"

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
What should I be looking for. Faces of sadness byways of lost earning potential? Be specific so I can make notes

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

Dudes, we've finally made it as a country, Adrienne Clarkson is quoted in Civ VI when you discover Iron Working!

We can pack it up and kill each other to the last with cars or bicycles or whatever you dour fucks are bitching about today.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

jfood posted:

Dudes, we've finally made it as a country, Adrienne Clarkson is quoted in Civ VI when you discover Iron Working!

We can pack it up and kill each other to the last with cars or bicycles or whatever you dour fucks are bitching about today.

Call me when we're an actual, commercially released Civilization in the game and not just 'The City State of Toronto'

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

JVNO posted:

Call me when we're an actual, commercially released Civilization in the game and not just 'The City State of Toronto'

Britain's already in the game though :confused:

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Here's your semi-regular reminder for the day that Saudi Arabia is the worst:

quote:

Saudi Arabia arrests teenage YouTube star over 'enticing' videos with female American blogger

Police accused Abu Sin of 'unethical behaviour' as human rights groups raised concern

Lizzie Dearden @lizziedearden Wednesday 28 September 2016

Saudi Arabia has arrested a teenage boy on charges of “unethical behaviour” after appearing in online video chats with an American vlogger.

Police claimed the videos shared on YouNow by Abu Sin and Christina Crockett, who lives in California, were “enticing” and invited “negative attention” from viewers around the world.

The videos were originally shown live on the social streaming site but have since been broadcast on YouTube, receiving hundreds of thousands of views.

The humorous clips show Abu Sin and Christina, 21, chatting from their homes in California and Saudi Arabia, battling language differences between English and Arabic and jokingly declaring their love for one another.

In one, Abu Sin – whose nickname translates as “toothless” – dons a traditional Saudi headdress and sings Christina a traditional song before asking her to marry him.

Police in Riyadh detained Abu Sin on Sunday while he was driving with two friends, with the arrest accidentally broadcast live on YouNow as he chatted with another user from Kuwait.

The footage showed police pulling up behind the car and the teenager approaching officers, before friends tell the camera police have an arrest warrant, according to a translation by France24.

Colonel Fawaz Al-Mayman, a spokesperson for Riyadh police, said Abu Sin was arrested for “unethical behaviour”.

“His videos received many comments and many of the commenters of the general public demanded for him to be punished for his actions,” he added, according to the Saudi Gazette.

“The two of them [Abu Sin and Christina] composed enticing videos which received thousands of followers and viewers from all over the world within a short period of time.

“Most of the viewers were from the Arab world. Abu Sin, nicknamed for his projecting tooth, became famous and received negative attention.”

A Saudi lawyer told the Okaz newspaper the videos breach the country’s interpretation of Sharia law and internet regulations, meaning Abu Sin could face up to three years in prison.

Authorities said he is 19 years old, although he looks considerably younger in the footage.

In one video, he tells Christina he was 20 before she replies sceptically: “But you’re only 13”.

Neither Christina, a beauty and lifestyle vlogger, or YouNow have commented on the arrest.

Saudi Arabia is known to have made several arrests linked to YouTube videos and social media use, including of men who filmed themselves giving out “free hugs” in Riyadh.

Adam Coogle, a Middle East researcher at Human Rights Watch, said the country does not have a written penal code but has passed several laws governing internet use, including the Anti-Cybercrime Law of 2007.

Article 6 of the law criminalises “producing something that harms public order, religious values, public morals, the sanctity of private life, or authoring, sending, or storing it via an information network” and imposes penalties of up to five years in prison and a fine of up to three million Saudi Riyals (£615,000).

“We’ve seen many cases in which Saudi prosecutors and judges have used vague provisions this law to charge and try Saudi citizens for peaceful tweets and social media comments,” Mr Coogle told The Independent.

“The case raises serious concerns about the Saudi criminal justice system, both that authorities would target someone for a very trivial speech-related issue, but also that they would arrest a teenager on these grounds.

“It shows once again how sensitive the Saudi authorities have become to the ability of ordinary citizens to voice opinions online that the government considers controversial or taboo.”

This isn't really comparable to how they're using famine and white phosphorus as weapons of war in Yemen or exporting terrible Wahhabi beliefs all around the world but I imagine a lot of Canadians have an easier time imagining what it's like to be prosecuted for a youtube video than what it's like to be on the wrong end of a nasty counter insurgency campaign.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

JVNO posted:

Call me when we're an actual, commercially released Civilization in the game

Play as the British and take over one of France's far-flung settlements.

PoizenJam
Dec 2, 2006

Damn!!!
It's PoizenJam!!!

Brannock posted:

Britain's already in the game though :confused:

America though. I mean, yeah, revolutionary war and all that but still, you could potentially use this argument to exclude them (and any other countries borne through independence from a parent civilization).

I suppose it's nice to have a representative of the modern era, but a not-insignificant part of the motivation for including America is sheer commercial appeal.

Lobok posted:

Play as the British and take over one of France's far-flung settlements.

Hahaha... Ahah...

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

jfood posted:

Dudes, we've finally made it as a country, Adrienne Clarkson is quoted in Civ VI when you discover Iron Working!

We can pack it up and kill each other to the last with cars or bicywhcles or whatever you dour fucks are bitching about today.

what's the quotation

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Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

vyelkin posted:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/09/28/ontario-minister-says-opposition-to-nestle-water-taking-based-on-misinformation_n_12235180.html

Wow guys Liz Sandals is here to explain how we're all dumb for disliking Nestle and actually they're just a poor plucky little misunderstand megacorporation.

So, what's the misinformation - that Nestle is an untrustworthy corporate evil-doer that's had an active role in killing third world babies and harming the health of millions/billions world-wide? How about sourcing cocoa beans from child slave plantations or seafood from slave ships?

The Wynne government and Nestle interacting? This deeply concerns me. One wrong move by Wynne, et al and our water belongs to NAFTA.

I like Elon Musk's idea for a one-way Mars colonization ship. Maybe we could persuade these one percenters to pay for their own tickets and impress the hell out of us with their superior ingenuity and work ethic from a safe distance.

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