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SirJohnnyMcDonald
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
meh I don't think it's a big deal tbh

I think there are better messages to attack the convention and trump campaign on

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

:tinfoil: or maybe this is a coverup?

Honepot to catch the media and make them look dumb?

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Grey Fox posted:

And it will pull attention away from Melania's plagiarism, which was the point all along.

A whole shitload of people in this country don't consider it plagiarism unless it's a straight copy and paste to the degree Melania did it. They are wrong. Trump does not care, nor should he.

How? Even if this wasn't strictly plagiarism, how does it not invite comparisons between the two incidents?

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
the trump family being complete mouth breathers all the way down explains a lot tbh

Yudo
May 15, 2003

Consummate Professional posted:

Turns out academic integrity is there to prepare you for something (giving speeches at political conventions). Look I get we all copy a bit in school but when you're on a world stage you're gonna look like a huge idiot

I agree, ultimately, but the audience he is pandering to doesn't give a gently caress.

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
The twinks for trump thing is pretty gross imo

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

lol the Muslims for Trump guy is mercenary as poo poo
http://fusion.net/story/289038/sajid-tarar-muslims-for-donald-trump/

quote:

In the past, Tarar has voted for both Republicans and Democrats, and he’s been cozy with the political establishment: On the wall of his office is a photo of him shaking hands with Dick Cheney. He’s even considered running for office himself. But Tarar said he became so fed up with President Obama and the federal government that Trump’s message started making sense to him.

In a lot of ways, he sounds exactly like your typical Trump supporter: He calls Obama a socialist, thinks building a border wall is “crucial,” and bemoans political correctness and the Black Lives Matter movement. He likes that Trump is funding his own campaign, is an entrepreneur, and is sticking it to the political insiders.

So this seems to be his LinkedIn? It has him as a member of various Democratic orgs and a part of some Advisory councils when O'Malley was in charge. Also his job involves helping rich foreigners secure visas.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sajid-tarar-557b5315

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/755597720300101632

Ross Douthat joining weird twitter is one of my favorite little things about this campaign

says the guy that went skinny dipping with William F Buckley.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009


worse selling than linda mcmahon

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Geert Wilders at the Twinks for Trump party.

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

♬ I Know You're Dying Trying To Figure Me Out♬

♬My Name's On The Tip Of Your Tongue Keep Running Your Mouth♬

♬You Want The Recipe But Can't Handle My Sound My Sound My Sound♬

♬No Matter What You Do Im Gonna Get It Without Ya♬

♬ I Know You Ain't Used To A Female Alpha♬
:eyepop:

Schnorkles
Apr 30, 2015

It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:

meh I don't think it's a big deal tbh

I think there are better messages to attack the convention and trump campaign on

on the other hand if it bogs down what was seen as a positive speech in stupid bullshit.... :shrug:

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

paranoid randroid posted:

not plagiarism, just more slapdash crap from the campaign that is redefining the meaning of phoning it in

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

vyelkin posted:

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this is something the Trumps have been doing forever, either because a) no one has ever told them it's wrong, or b) they just don't give a poo poo, and no one has ever called them out on it before because they weren't in the national spotlight until Papa Trump decided to run for president.

That would be my guess. Trump speech writers have probably done it forever and the Melania story didn't break with near enough time for them to find proper speech writers, write a new speech for Junior, and have him learn it.

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.

Yudo posted:

I agree, ultimately, but the audience he is pandering to doesn't give a gently caress.

I hate that you're right

nah thanks
Jun 18, 2004

Take me out.

MaxxBot posted:

Dude is fuckin good at twitter for a 90 year old, I don't think my 60 year old parents could even figure it out.

this guys twitter feed is great:

https://twitter.com/JohnDingell/status/755571132334477312

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
I think we all fondly remember the time John Favreau copy/pasted from a letter to the editor he wrote to The Nation and inserted it directly and unaltered into Obama's convention speech. This is totally nothing guys.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
:dogbutton:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

maybe it's just the hot new meme and these two dudes are in on the ground floor

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
https://twitter.com/BrettLoGiurato/status/755607692354420736

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Grey Fox posted:

And it will pull attention away from Melania's plagiarism, which was the point all along.

what also would've pulled attention away would've been a trump family speech with substance and without this kinda poo poo so if this was intentional it's still a weird-rear end move without much to gain for it

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Joementum posted:

Geert Wilders at the Twinks for Trump party.



You ARE Dave Weigel!

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Alter Ego posted:

How? Even if this wasn't strictly plagiarism, how does it not invite comparisons between the two incidents?
Because this was the latest incident, it's going to be referenced first and in the most detail. People MIGHT consider it "soft" plagiarism (still plagiarism, but these people DO NOT CARE), but either way it will spawn much of a phony debate because it's not a straight copy-and-paste. Then they mention Melania as an afterthought, and suddenly people start wondering how much they really give a gently caress.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006


Well, just one of being a hack rear end bitch whos over enamored with his own turn of phrase

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Cribbing from your own stuff word-for-word is still incredibly lazy and lovely, but I guess technically it's not plagiarism.

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

You see, I reuse my poo poo all the time and get payed for it. Total non-issue really.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Brother Entropy posted:

what also would've pulled attention away would've been a trump family speech with substance and without this kinda poo poo so if this was intentional it's still a weird-rear end move without much to gain for it
Expecting results with minimal effort is like the Trumpiest thing ever, though.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Makes him a lazy rear end speechwriter though.

"Oh hey I wrote something good like this, lets just copy a few lines"

I'm sticking with the :tinfoil: this was bait for the media so they could act like Melania's thing was no big deal theory.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Why the gently caress are they even trying to write cool speeches, just sarah palin sperg into the mike for 20 minutes and the base will slurp that poo poo up. You can't plagiarize word salad

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Jesus christ dad not everything is relatable to soviet era department stores

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Grey Fox posted:

Because this was the latest incident, it's going to be referenced first and in the most detail. People MIGHT consider it "soft" plagiarism (still plagiarism, but these people DO NOT CARE), but either way it will spawn much of a phony debate because it's not a straight copy-and-paste. Then they mention Melania as an afterthought, and suddenly people start wondering how much they really give a gently caress.

...and by the time the debate ends, the convention's over and no one has talked about killing the gays and selling Hispanics to zoos for meat or whatever it is Trump's campaign wants them to talk about.

Yudo
May 15, 2003

paranoid randroid posted:

not plagiarism, just more slapdash crap from the campaign that is redefining the meaning of phoning it in

At the risk of being pedantic, if you write something in a copyrighted publication and then later reuse the language, one is supposed to cite/quote that earlier publication. For this I doubt it is a big deal, but self plagiarism is a thing.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Alter Ego posted:

Cribbing from your own stuff word-for-word is still incredibly lazy and lovely, but I guess technically it's not plagiarism.

It's technically plagiarism but not in a way anyone gives a poo poo about

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

ew

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
hahaha you thought you were paying for fresh content? hahahaha eat my rear end in a top hat, heres some recycled pablum. fuckeeerrrrrs ahahaha

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Alter Ego posted:

...and by the time the debate ends, the convention's over and no one has talked about killing the gays and selling Hispanics to zoos for meat or whatever it is Trump's campaign wants them to talk about.
Sure! That too! I had completely forgotten about all that, so it's clearly working.

Goddam :(

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011


Al! posted:

It's technically plagiarism but not in a way anyone gives a poo poo about
I mean in an academic setting you would get in trouble for this because lazily repackaging your poo poo is a very bad thing.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Al! posted:

It's technically plagiarism but not in a way anyone gives a poo poo about

Tell that to Don Henley

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
At my university if you reused parts of a previous paper in a new assignment you'd still get kicked out for plagiarism. It's insulting laziness.

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a.lo
Sep 12, 2009


would would would would would

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