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Keith Kizer is super allergic to doing his job. -Ripped out instant replay monitors because he is a baby -Allegedly blacklists judges who award 10-10 rounds -Defends awful decisions by bad judges
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# ? Jan 11, 2014 10:36 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:59 |
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Yeah pretty much every time a legitimate issue was brought up his reaction was gently caress you lol
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# ? Jan 11, 2014 20:13 |
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Doesn't he also have a say over judges/refs and specifically assigns judges/refs the UFC doesn't like to their cards? I'm almost positive he is in control of who refs what and assigned Mazagatti to ref a main event recently. I remember Dana blowing a gasket about it. Basically Kizer makes awful decisions, practices nepotism, and protects all of his officials from blame regardless of how transparently garbage they are.
Seltzer fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jan 12, 2014 |
# ? Jan 12, 2014 00:19 |
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Seltzer posted:Doesn't he also have a say over judges/refs and specifically assigns judges/refs the UFC doesn't like to their cards? I'm almost positive he is in control of who refs what and assigned Mazagatti to ref a main event recently. I remember Dana blowing a gasket about it. Basically Kizer makes awful decisions, practices nepotism, and protects all of his officials from blame regardless of how transparently garbage they are. This is one of the "no, you bad" situations (UFC complaining when it's their fault), as they have bitched about the refs they assign and the judges they assign, while having booked those same judges and refs on overseas shows where they could do what ever the gently caress they want.
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# ? Jan 12, 2014 14:54 |
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I wonder if Lorenzo ever complains about Ratner's judge/ref assignments overseas, because it seems like Ratner does a real bad job of that sometimes. Like, every important fight overseas seems to include Sal D'Amato as a judge.
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# ? Jan 12, 2014 18:47 |
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LordPants posted:This is one of the "no, you bad" situations (UFC complaining when it's their fault), as they have bitched about the refs they assign and the judges they assign, while having booked those same judges and refs on overseas shows where they could do what ever the gently caress they want. To be fair though, Dana doesn't give two shits about most fights, he just doesn't want contender fights and title fights getting ruined. Most of the time if they're bringing the refs over borders for something its a case of "if not these idiots, then who?" the other thing too, if Dana and co didn't bring recognisable guys like Mazagatti and Yamasaki who he's publicly criticised but are generally regarded as straight arrows, albeit sometimes gently caress-ups, there'd be all kinds of accusations of fixing fights.
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# ? Jan 13, 2014 10:22 |
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1st AD posted:I wonder if Lorenzo ever complains about Ratner's judge/ref assignments overseas, because it seems like Ratner does a real bad job of that sometimes. Like, every important fight overseas seems to include Sal D'Amato as a judge. Dan Miragliotta seemingly refs at every event in places where the UFC gets to bring their own.
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# ? Jan 17, 2014 06:48 |
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Thermos H Christ posted:Dan Miragliotta seemingly refs at every event in places where the UFC gets to bring their own. I don't recall that happening ever since he made some dumb call on a Brazil card and Dana White said it would stop happening.
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# ? Jan 17, 2014 22:03 |
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Bluedeanie posted:I don't recall that happening ever since he made some dumb call on a Brazil card and Dana White said it would stop happening. Was he the one from the 2011 Brazil Aldo/Faber card that Joe Rogan got in the cage, berated publicly, and forced to apologize for DQing a guy?
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 00:05 |
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projecthalaxy posted:Was he the one from the 2011 Brazil Aldo/Faber card that Joe Rogan got in the cage, berated publicly, and forced to apologize for DQing a guy? I think that was Mario Yamasaki
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 00:09 |
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Yeah that was Mario. I honestly can't remember which event or even what it was, but he made two or three questionable decisions all in one event and Dana said that was it. I think he stopped something way too early on the undercard and then because he got booed and was overly conscious about it he let one TKO go for way too long to compensate later.
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 06:28 |
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Bluedeanie posted:Yeah that was Mario. I honestly can't remember which event or even what it was Erick Silva vs Carlo Prater, UFC 142.
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 06:36 |
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That's the only bad Yamasaki call I remember. The bad Miragliotta call in Brazil was letting Khabib Nurmagomedov elbow Thiago Tavares in the head 15 times while Taveres was completely unconscious.
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 06:49 |
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Rosenthal was usually pretty good but wasn't he the one who blew the Weidman/Munoz call? I wasn't even watching that poo poo live and I was screaming at my television for him to stop the fight
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 11:01 |
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Biafraid posted:Rosenthal was usually pretty good but wasn't he the one who blew the Weidman/Munoz call? I wasn't even watching that poo poo live and I was screaming at my television for him to stop the fight That was indeed Inmate #2359
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 14:20 |
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fatherdog posted:Erick Silva vs Carlo Prater, UFC 142. I meant I can't remember the Tan Dan stoppage, I recall Erick Silva because that was the first-ever goonweight and it had that weird bullshit stoppage no one got points for.
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# ? Jan 18, 2014 15:40 |
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If your opponent is playing the game of putting a hand on the mat to prevent knees to his head, are you allowed to stomp on that hand?
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# ? Jan 20, 2014 22:57 |
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niethan posted:If your opponent is playing the game of putting a hand on the mat to prevent knees to his head, are you allowed to stomp on that hand? The rule just says that quote:Stomping a grounded opponent Is a foul. If the hand is down, they're grounded and stomping it would be a foul.
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# ? Jan 20, 2014 23:08 |
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But you could axe kick it, right? Didn't GSP axe kick some dude's body while he was on his back?
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# ? Jan 20, 2014 23:57 |
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LobsterMobster posted:But you could axe kick it, right? Didn't GSP axe kick some dude's body while he was on his back? I think so. I' sort of remember Bendo doing it against Diaz as well.
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# ? Jan 21, 2014 00:00 |
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LobsterMobster posted:But you could axe kick it, right? Didn't GSP axe kick some dude's body while he was on his back? Yes, MMA rules are weird and dumb sometimes
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# ? Jan 21, 2014 00:33 |
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An axe kick is not considered a stomp, according to the rules.Yuriy posted:Yes, MMA rules are weird and dumb sometimes
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# ? Jan 21, 2014 01:15 |
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What fight was it where someone was trying to play the hand on ground thing and then his opponent just picked up his hand and kneed him in the head?
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# ? Jan 21, 2014 20:55 |
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1st AD posted:What fight was it where someone was trying to play the hand on ground thing and then his opponent just picked up his hand and kneed him in the head? I want to say it was nate during his stint at ww
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# ? Jan 22, 2014 03:33 |
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Here's Big John doing a rules meeting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HGpSp8aS30 Most of the commonly asked rules questions are answered in here
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# ? Jan 22, 2014 08:05 |
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1st AD posted:What fight was it where someone was trying to play the hand on ground thing and then his opponent just picked up his hand and kneed him in the head? Gilbert against like masvidal
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# ? Jan 22, 2014 15:18 |
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Do fighters with long necks typically get choked out more?
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# ? Jan 23, 2014 13:06 |
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Dangersim posted:Here's Big John doing a rules meeting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HGpSp8aS30 Also a pro click because Big John is a funny dude.
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# ? Jan 23, 2014 13:32 |
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Valeyard posted:Do fighters with long necks typically get choked out more? No, fighters with bad submission defense or with very average chins do though.
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# ? Jan 24, 2014 05:02 |
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Yuriy posted:The rule just says that Jesus Christ, I've wondered why I've never seen that. That is truly the worst, man I hate that rule. Now I fantasize about a guy putting his hand on the mat, and the other fighter kicking him on the straightened elbow, snapping the arm. That'd learn em. LobsterMobster posted:But you could axe kick it, right? Didn't GSP axe kick some dude's body while he was on his back? He did, against Mayem Miller. It didn't do much but looked cool as gently caress.
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 22:53 |
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Count Roland posted:He did, against Mayem Miller. It didn't do much but looked cool as gently caress. There's all sorts of cool weird stuff in that match. Teen GSP vs some idiot with dumb hair is one of my all time favorite mismatched squash fights.
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 23:40 |
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1st AD posted:What fight was it where someone was trying to play the hand on ground thing and then his opponent just picked up his hand and kneed him in the head? At UFC 152 Jones started the fight by crawling across the mat, Vitor went to soccer kick him in the face and narrowly missed, Jones immediately snitched, Big John said "Well, you wanted to play the game." Big John owns.
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 23:54 |
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red19fire posted:At UFC 152 Jones started the fight by crawling across the mat, Vitor went to soccer kick him in the face and narrowly missed, Jones immediately snitched, Big John said "Well, you wanted to play the game." Even better. Jones put his hand up to block it. If Vitor had connected, Jones wouldn't have been a grounded opponent. There are very few What Ifs in MMA that I regret more than those few inches.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:14 |
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Had Chael won by destroyed toe I'd probably still be laughing
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:23 |
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origami posted:Had Chael won by destroyed toe I'd probably still be laughing We were 20 seconds away from Chael Sonnen, Light Heavyweight champion via TKO (Injury). What could have been
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:25 |
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I wonder what happened to that belt Chael bought. Seeing that in the closet has to weigh heavy on a guy that promised his dad the title
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:32 |
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I've seen Big John in a rules meeting post UFC 152 tell people not to do the Jon Jones thing, because he and you both know that when the kick comes you're going to pick up your hand to block, you're going to get knocked out, and you're going to feel really stupid.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 07:52 |
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I think even if Vitor had kicked Jones into outer space and taken a DQ, it would have been a good career move. The old school Vale Tudo badboy and all that. Just have to make sure he gets a decent PR firm to write his mumbled half apology so Dana can rubberstamp his return to the UFC after a suspension that conveniently lines up with the next time he could fight anyway.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 17:45 |
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Dangersim posted:I've seen Big John in a rules meeting post UFC 152 tell people not to do the Jon Jones thing, because he and you both know that when the kick comes you're going to pick up your hand to block, you're going to get knocked out, and you're going to feel really stupid. I remember some B-League guy won a DQ by having the presence of mind to not defend himself when his opponent straight up blasted him in the face when he was doing the Jon Jones thing. He got himself really messed up tough.
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# ? Jan 31, 2014 19:38 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 07:59 |
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I bet it's really loving hard not to raise your hand to block when someone is trying to kick your face in. Even more so for professional fighters trained to block on mere instinct.
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# ? Jan 31, 2014 22:29 |