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Someone needs to make a GIF out of Obama and Christie high fiving each other today on the boardwalk.
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mcmagic posted:Someone needs to make a GIF out of Obama and Christie high fiving each other today on the boardwalk. I'm sure Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Santorum are working on it.
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May 29, 2013 01:45
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The line outside the Rand Paul book signing at the Reagan Library an hour before the event.
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Jun 1, 2013 04:07
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I love the people on opposite sides, like there's going to be a massive argument over who was 5th or 6th in line.
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Jun 1, 2013 06:38
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skaboomizzy posted:I love the people on opposite sides, like there's going to be a massive argument over who was 5th or 6th in line. With guns drawn, over liberty and freedom and Tea Party values.
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Jun 1, 2013 13:35
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Joementum posted:The line outside the Rand Paul book signing at the Reagan Library an hour before the event. Gotta love the youthfulness and diversity of his fans.
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Jun 1, 2013 17:13
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skaboomizzy posted:I love the people on opposite sides, like there's going to be a massive argument over who was 5th or 6th in line. Why don't we let the Free Market decide?
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Jun 2, 2013 02:10
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Post mortem, Time have obtained documents that show what a Mitt Romney hellscape would look like.
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Jun 2, 2013 18:06
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ufarn posted:Post mortem, Time have obtained documents that show what a Mitt Romney hellscape would look like. It's like someone threw every single corporate executive buzzword into a PowerPoint generator. "Increase responsiveness from cabinet departments by increasing unity through cabinet synergy." This further confirms my belief that being a business consultant, MLM founder, or cult leader would all require essentially the same skill set.
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Jun 2, 2013 18:23
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As is usually the case, Nate Silver has something insightful to say about Hillary Clinton's popularity and how it will affect her (presumed) 2016 campaign: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/31/predictable-decline-in-hillary-clintons-popularity/#more-40236 He basically says that while Hillary Clinton is still popular amongst Democrats, the idea that she has some type of transcendent popularity across groups is wishful thinking.
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Jun 2, 2013 23:33
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She's not going to magically win Arkansas but she still has really good numbers with women. [PDF] Crosstabs Favorable among women Fav-Un-Haven't Heard enough Clinton 59-32-8 Biden 39-38-23
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Jun 3, 2013 05:46
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All Hillary has to do to get the biggest Democratic landslide in 50 years is to lose White women by 5%.
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Jun 3, 2013 05:52
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DynamicSloth posted:All Hillary has to do to get the biggest Democratic landslide in 50 years is to lose White women by 5%. Wow the Republicans are in trouble on that front. 
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Jun 3, 2013 07:29
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's like someone threw every single corporate executive buzzword into a PowerPoint generator. "Increase responsiveness from cabinet departments by increasing unity through cabinet synergy." I'm taking a management course right now as part of my degree, and it's literally nothing but "how to organize a thing" wrapped around several hundred common business buzzwords, some technical jargon and PowerPoint.
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Jun 3, 2013 07:45
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skaboomizzy posted:I'm taking a management course right now as part of my degree, and it's literally nothing but "how to organize a thing" wrapped around several hundred common business buzzwords, some technical jargon and PowerPoint. Hey, don't you worry about "blank", let me worry about "blank".
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Jun 3, 2013 08:20
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And we have a candidate for the coveted spot of 2016's version of Jon Huntsman.quote:The Ohio Republican, who was on Mitt Romney’s list of potential vice-president possibilities during the 2012 election, is considered a possible presidential hopeful. He’ll be appearing in Salem on June 14. Alright! Who's fired up for some wonky conservative budget solutions masked as calm centrism with a thin veneer of social moderation? Anyone? The polls just closed on the set of Morning Joe and it's Portman with a landslide!!
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Jun 3, 2013 22:45
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Joementum posted:And we have a candidate for the coveted spot of 2016's version of Jon Huntsman. They are too busy lapping Christie's rear end to really commit to Portman.
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Jun 3, 2013 22:59
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Gonna go out on a limb and say a Republican who is best known for being pro-gay marriage and his service in the Bush 43 administration probably isn't a real threat.
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Jun 3, 2013 23:02
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ufarn posted:Post mortem, Time have obtained documents that show what a Mitt Romney hellscape would look like. All that needs to be said: quote:A White House spokesman did not respond when asked if Obama’s team had reviewed the transition report for ideas for the second term.
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Jun 3, 2013 23:10
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Joementum posted:And we have a candidate for the coveted spot of 2016's version of Jon Huntsman. We have a milquetoast white guy from the Midwest whose speeches are known for being a better sleep aid than most prescription sedatives, whose big selling point as a possible 2012 Veep nomination was that he wouldn't overshadow Mitt Romney, and has a handful of vaguely moderate positions. I submit to you that he is not, in fact, 2016's Jon Huntsman; he is 2016's Tim Pawlenty.
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Jun 3, 2013 23:55
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Thanatosian posted:I submit to you that he is not, in fact, 2016's Jon Huntsman; he is 2016's Tim Pawlenty. Eh. Pawlenty's place in the race if it developed into anything was always going to be as the evangelical candidate, and Portman tossed that away when he decided to accept his son's sexual orientation.
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Jun 3, 2013 23:58
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jeffersonlives posted:Eh. Pawlenty's place in the race if it developed into anything was always going to be as the evangelical candidate, and Portman tossed that away when he decided to accept his son's sexual orientation.
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Jun 4, 2013 00:20
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Random thought: does Cory Booker likely being in the Senate in a few months materially alter the 2016 Democratic primary? Everyone's focused on how this affects Christie, but it feels to me like it's a lot easier for Booker to turn around and run in 2015 with almost two years under his belt instead of a couple of months.
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I'm sort of skeptical that a black candidate with only two years in the Senate could compete nationally. That obvious joke out of the way, isn't Booker's problem there going to be the tri-state bar on Wall Street fundraising, or is that only a state-level thing?
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Jun 4, 2013 19:15
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jeffersonlives posted:Random thought: does Cory Booker likely being in the Senate in a few months materially alter the 2016 Democratic primary? Everyone's focused on how this affects Christie, but it feels to me like it's a lot easier for Booker to turn around and run in 2015 with almost two years under his belt instead of a couple of months. It's going to be interested to see how much lip service Booker needs to pay to progressives to win. I'm guessing not much.
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Jun 4, 2013 19:16
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mcmagic posted:It's going to be interested to see how much lip service Booker needs to pay to progressives to win. I'm guessing not much. Booker pays lots of "lip service" to "progressives," he just doesn't pay much to unions. Really isn't the same thing. Also might not translate when he's a statewide elected instead of dealing with the Newark shitstorm.
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Jun 4, 2013 19:17
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jeffersonlives posted:Random thought: does Cory Booker likely being in the Senate in a few months materially alter the 2016 Democratic primary? Everyone's focused on how this affects Christie, but it feels to me like it's a lot easier for Booker to turn around and run in 2015 with almost two years under his belt instead of a couple of months. Booker is young and has plenty of time to run for the White House. I personally don't think he'll even consider running unless both Biden and Clinton bow out.
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jeffersonlives posted:Booker pays lots of "lip service" to "progressives," he just doesn't pay much to unions. Really isn't the same thing. Also might not translate when he's a statewide elected instead of dealing with the Newark shitstorm. He's going to hope that he can just talk about social issues and not have to pay a price for his neoliberal economics.
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mcmagic posted:He's going to hope that he can just talk about social issues and not have to pay a price for his neoliberal economics. Yes, his neoliberal economics, truly such an impediment to national prominence in the Democratic party.
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The Warszawa posted:Yes, his neoliberal economics, truly such an impediment to national prominence in the Democratic party. He's very far to the right economically and NJ is a liberal state. I'm sure he'll win though.
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Jun 4, 2013 19:33
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mcmagic posted:He's very far to the right economically and NJ is a liberal state. I'm sure he'll win though. NJ has a lot of finance people - NJ is a truly liberal state. Basically, neoliberalism is not actually untenable in mainstream American politics.
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Booker will probably wait his turn for a presidential run, if he makes it into Senate. He's definitely presidential material though, progressive social views, and has pockets in finance. Also literally Batman. Edit: If Hilary ducks I could see him fighting Biden though, that hinges on getting that Senate seat now, however. This would also nullify one of Christie's biggest potential advantages, assuming they go against each other in the same presidential race.
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Waterbed posted:Booker will probably wait his turn for a presidential run, if he makes it into Senate. Booker absolutely should wait. The GOP noise machine is already going to be bad enough in 2016 without them getting to say 'hey look! They're putting up ANOTHER black northern senator who hasn't even completed his first term in office!' Booker needs more time for Obama to be out of the limelight before running, otherwise he won't be Cory Booker for President, he'll just be Obama 2.0 and will have (for good or for ill) all of Obama's positions and opinions grafted onto him by both sides.
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Tempest_56 posted:Booker absolutely should wait. The GOP noise machine is already going to be bad enough in 2016 without them getting to say 'hey look! They're putting up ANOTHER black northern senator who hasn't even completed his first term in office!' Booker needs more time for Obama to be out of the limelight before running, otherwise he won't be Cory Booker for President, he'll just be Obama 2.0 and will have (for good or for ill) all of Obama's positions and opinions grafted onto him by both sides. You're making the argument for him to run if the economy is good in 2016 which is more likely than not.
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Jun 4, 2013 20:02
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Tempest_56 posted:Booker absolutely should wait. The GOP noise machine is already going to be bad enough in 2016 without them getting to say 'hey look! They're putting up ANOTHER black northern senator who hasn't even completed his first term in office!' Booker needs more time for Obama to be out of the limelight before running, otherwise he won't be Cory Booker for President, he'll just be Obama 2.0 and will have (for good or for ill) all of Obama's positions and opinions grafted onto him by both sides. If Hilary runs you could also have a scenario of the next three presidents being democrats just based upon the way demographics are shaping up right now. Obama, Clinton, Booker, Castro has a nice ring to it. 
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A Winner is Jew posted:Obama, Clinton, Booker, Castro has a nice ring to it. It rings like a bell with "GOLDMAN SACHS" printed on the side.
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Booker isn't running. I thought he might before he went for Senate, but he didn't even try to slay the Christie dragon within his own state. Why the gently caress would he duck him three months back, then go for it two years later from an inferior position when he'd have to get by between one and two of the three biggest plausible names in Dem politics since 1964? The guy's too smart for that. He's set himself up for 2020 or '24 too well as it is. No reason to take on Clinton/Biden/GOP back to back to back now when he can be the anointed Chosen One in a cycle.
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Jun 4, 2013 21:22
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SedanChair posted:It rings like a bell with "GOLDMAN SACHS" printed on the side. I don't think there's any evidence yet that either Castro has sold out to Wall St. just yet, but there's still time.
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Jun 4, 2013 21:24
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SedanChair posted:It rings like a bell with "GOLDMAN SACHS" printed on the side. You act like that wouldn't happen no matter who the next 4 presidents are or something.
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For the record, my own thoughts on Booker: Hillary running really takes everyone in that northeastern "neoliberal" pod out, and Biden running puts a serious cramp on all of them. If neither runs, Booker might be looking at polls in two years showing him as a frontrunner in a weak field, and that's hard to turn down.
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