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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Now that Al-Andalus rests on a sure geographic footing, we must ensure our naval and diplomatic dominance!



I rejoin the Merchants!

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Talas
Aug 27, 2005



Merchants for life.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.


Let's go with the Merchants this time. The French seem to be pretty much defanged as a threat, and we've achieved our goal of uniting Iberia.

It's a good time to find opportunities for greatness overseas. Perhaps build a few new colonies, or snap up some of the Moroccan colonies while they're revolting.

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
Goddamit the AI is stupid sometimes.

At least it wasn't a total waste. I'd be mad if we didn't even demand land from Tlapanec.

Edit: Oh yeah, and i stay with the Taifas.

Frionnel fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jul 25, 2017

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Our enemies are collapsing on every side and y'all want to go back to colonial policy!?!? This is a chance to break up France further, to defang Morocco, to nab Sardinia to match Corsica!

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
Yeah, with the Merchants clearly dominating i propose we Taifas focus on Morocco during our current Sultan's reign. Not immediately though, let's wait until this unrest is over.

everydayfalls
Aug 23, 2016


With new ships to build and several years of manpower to recoup after the Yucatán adventure it is time for the merchants to be in power

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Erwin the German posted:



I cast my lot with the Loyalist faction, which should be synonymous with the Ulama under the current ruler! Join me in caucus with the Loyalists, my fellow imam. Here is a man touched by the very spirit of the prophet!

:same:

I want our pious ruler to be able to do whatever he so desires (ideally converting all of the remaining Christians and heretics within our borders, but regardless, I have faith that this is the Sultan that we have been waiting for).

Hey Hashim, what bonuses do the Loyalists get if we are the second largest? Can we please vote to permanently diminish the influence of the Majlis?

Velius
Feb 27, 2001



We must not neglect our internal development and faith. I stay with the Ulama.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Frionnel posted:

Yeah, with the Merchants clearly dominating i propose we Taifas focus on Morocco during our current Sultan's reign. Not immediately though, let's wait until this unrest is over.

We can't take turf while out of power. If we can't, the next best thing to do would be to pounce on France and start giving it to others and releasing countries.

E: the merchants are additionally reminded that the Ulema and Loyalists are not to be trusted and whoever takes power, we must work together to keep the... ancillary factions away from the Sultan.

Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 25, 2017

MatchaZed
Feb 14, 2010

We Can Do It!



Staying with the Merchants!

This is the time! We can seize the rebellious Moroccan colonies to significantly expand our New World presence!

The Bold Kobold
Aug 11, 2014

Bold to the point of certain death.


Rejoining with the Merchants.

Now that we have Iberia, it's time to focus on the rest of the new world once more.

Rubix Squid
Apr 17, 2014

I am with the Merchants!

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Rubix Squid posted:


I am with the Merchants!

unwantedplatypus
Sep 6, 2012


The new Sultan wishes to rule? Let him rule, perhaps he shall prove his worth. If not, then there are always...options.

Odysseus S. Grant
Oct 12, 2011

Cats is the oldest and strongest emotion
of mankind


Let it be known that it wasn't the loss of the late heir that drove the old Sultan to the bottle, but the constant harassment of the Majlis.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb



I stand proud with our new Sultan

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011


Coming back after a long absence to join the Loyalists.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

ThatBasqueGuy posted:


I stand proud with our new Sultan

You mean beneath him

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Dance Officer posted:

You mean beneath him

:yeah:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Dance Officer posted:

You mean beneath him

In his general area on a lower dais, of course.

Vinny Possum
Sep 21, 2015

THUNDERDOME LOSER


Allah The Extender first, Sultan second, but may The Highest bless him.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister



I support the Merchants!

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

RZApublican posted:

Also, could we see the religion map? Ideally one shot of it for Europe and one shot of it for the entire world.

Here you go:





Snipee posted:

Hey Hashim, what bonuses do the Loyalists get if we are the second largest? Can we please vote to permanently diminish the influence of the Majlis?

No single faction can vote to weaken the entire Majlis, but the more powerful the Loyalists are, the higher Absolutism is likely to climb. And once the absolutism value crosses a certain threshold, a reckoning between Sultan and Majlis is inevitable.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
Tally right now, shout if I missed something:

- 7 - Luhood, Lord Cyrahzax, RZApublican, Rodyle, Hitlers Gay Secret, catlord, Frionnel.

- 7 - Mountaineer, AJ_Impy, Chatrapati, Picard Day, Ralepozozaxe, Velius, Vinny Possum.

- 18 - Ikasuhito, Soup du Jour, Crazycryodude, Dance Officer, GunnerJ, Captain Oblivious, Mikl, ZearothK, Camoes, paragon1, Talas, Wyvernil, everydayfalls, WilliamAnderson, The Bold Kobold, Rubix Squid, Technowolf, Yvonmukluk.

- 9 - HiHo ChiRho, Erwin the German, Slaan, Zakrelo, Snipee, unwantedplatypus, Odysseus S. Grant, ThatBasqueGuy, Flavius Belisarius.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Hashim posted:

No single faction can vote to weaken the entire Majlis, but the more powerful the Loyalists are, the higher Absolutism is likely to climb. And once the absolutism value crosses a certain threshold, a reckoning between Sultan and Majlis is inevitable.

:getin:

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?



I figure I'll switch to the loyalists, actually

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat

Loyalists
For the Sultan!

the JJ
Mar 31, 2011


It's time for us to take the rest of those colonies.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Hm, do I stick with the Merchants because the Loyalists are a bunch of zealots, or switch to the Loyalists because the Sultan should have more power and probably won't get us into a stupid war with co-religionists for indefensible territory?

Also, what the hell is going on in China religiously?

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker

Soup du Jour posted:

Hm, do I stick with the Merchants because the Loyalists are a bunch of zealots, or switch to the Loyalists because the Sultan should have more power and probably won't get us into a stupid war with co-religionists for indefensible territory?

Also, what the hell is going on in China religiously?

Join the Ulema as a counterweight to the Majils.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Soup du Jour posted:

Hm, do I stick with the Merchants because the Loyalists are a bunch of zealots, or switch to the Loyalists because the Sultan should have more power and probably won't get us into a stupid war with co-religionists for indefensible territory?

Also, what the hell is going on in China religiously?

The Sultan will get us into war with our own populace and foreign christians for indefensible territory.


To base war on faith rather than national interest is simply outmoded. If you must oppose the Taifas, at least do so as as a Merchant.

Mountaineer
Aug 29, 2008

Imagine a rod breaking on a robot face - forever
Changed my mind. The Ulama are obsolete since we adopted Humanism anyway.

I'll be returning to The Loyalists since this sultan is worth supporting!

tunapirate
Aug 15, 2015


It's our time bois -- staying with the ulema.

gbuchold
Oct 7, 2007

We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom.
Pillbug

I remain, as ever, a humble servant of Al-Andalus and the Jizrunids.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Wait, is a decent chunk of Denmark Orthodox? When did that happen?

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

catlord posted:

Wait, is a decent chunk of Denmark Orthodox? When did that happen?

A Varangian might have gone home Orthodox back in CK2?

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
What's the grey ish blob in Norwa, pagan?

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Slaan posted:

What's the grey ish blob in Norwa, pagan?

It's a patch of wasteland terrain.


And by the way, loyalist me.

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