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the_steve posted:Didn't we already do the the whole "quality > quantity" story with the 50-60 Leatherworking quest though? Honestly it's a common general theme of crafting storylines. But the one you're thinking of (which is actually 1-50, 50-60 is about helping someone deliver affordable mid-ranged goods to Ishgard) is about proving a counterfeiter's goods to be a poor imitation. I'm picturing more of a 'Versus Wizard Jeff Bezos' thing. Plus, it lets us fill out some details on creation magic, and provides an opportunity to reuse expert crafting outside of Ishgardian Restoration.
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50-60 LW is curing classism through craftsmanship, then curing xenophobia through a combination of craftsmanship and bear wrestling.
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Cleretic posted:See, I was thinking of the 80-90 crafters too, but I was thinking 'Helmarut has decided to use ancient magics to score a monopoly on literally every single possible crafting sector', and it's up to you to beat his unbeatable quantity with unbeatable quality. gently caress that, team up with an immortal crafter to finally knock Rowena off her throne
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Feb 5, 2021 15:24
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hazardousmouse posted:gently caress that, team up with an immortal crafter to finally knock Rowena off her throne Do a soul swap of our Rowena with the nice Rowena from the First
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Feb 5, 2021 15:49
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but then we'd be inflicting our Rowena on the first and they have it hard enough
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WrightOfWay posted:It wouldn't surprise me if one or more of the remaining Convocation members just fucks off to enjoy their immortality somewhere far away from the WoL and their huge Ascian bodycount. With the Unsundered gone, they're free to pursue their own goals and they probably aren't all suicidal nihilists like FannyD and might not come into direct conflict with us. This wouldn't be very narratively satisfying though. The ascians have been driven in as "There are thirteen of these fuckers" and you can't do that and then just go "well, we're only going to address like 8 or 9 of them."
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We'll most likely encounter all the remaining Ascians to tie up the narrative, but not necessarily have to kill them.
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We have a) Constellation Stones and b) a way to cure tempering. Why not just free them from Zodiark and give them Fordola's choice? Alternatively, shoving Zenos into the Elidibus-shaped hole might actually just wake Zodiark fully up for the first time in eons and just turn what's left of the Ascians into thralls. ...which would be interesting for Loghrif. 
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Feb 5, 2021 18:15
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Gruckles posted:We'll most likely encounter all the remaining Ascians to tie up the narrative, but not necessarily have to kill them. It would be a very FF14 move if they had an ephiphany that other races had the right to exist and they just renounced evil and set up the Ascian institute for aetheric studies or something and tidily swept themselves out of the plot
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i'd bet that we'll have another sundered ascian show up and go 'uhhh hey so our master plan is over and fandaniel is a problem' and team up with us
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Going by Gaia and Danny not giving a poo poo about their duty, I don't think the sundered Ascians are tempered by Zodiark at all. Plus I'm assuming they lived some time as mortals before the bosses showed up to give them their Ancient memories. So the remainders may also be inclined to just have personal motives of varying moralities to use their cool darkness powers for.
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Gaia as she exists now has not been elevated to the convocation as an Ascian, so that doesn't matter, but it's a fair cop for Damndaniel
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Feb 5, 2021 18:33
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mitron didn't seem to give a poo poo about anything except reuniting with loghrif
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Gruckles posted:Going by Gaia and Danny not giving a poo poo about their duty, I don't think the sundered Ascians are tempered by Zodiark at all. Plus I'm assuming they lived some time as mortals before the bosses showed up to give them their Ancient memories. So the remainders may also be inclined to just have personal motives of varying moralities to use their cool darkness powers for. It's also possible that coreless Zodiark is just...dormant. Unsundered Ascians were tempered at the original summoning and the three that lived through the Great Stomping kept it while those that were later raised back up were technically still tempered, there were just no new orders being broadcast. E: the Ascians do keep talking about "resurrecting" their God - would be funny if Zenos wanders up to this giant mostly-dead crystal and does his Code Geass Eye thing and Zodiark just eats his soul with a "Since when were you the one in charge?" Itzena fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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Itzena posted:E: the Ascians do keep talking about "resurrecting" their God - would be funny if Zenos wanders up to this giant mostly-dead crystal and does his Code Geass Eye thing and Zodiark just eats his soul with a "Since when were you the one in charge?" Honestly, that's kind of what I've been expecting.
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I don't know exactly how it is going to happen, but I am absolutely postive Zenos will some way or another end up biting off more than he can chew and becoming a mutant horror for the final boss, probably called Zeromus
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Feb 5, 2021 19:16
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Rowena is Altima. Sorry if you hadn't figured it out yet.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Rowena is Altima. I’d loving love if Rowena turned out to be an Ascian. It would be hilarious
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multijoe posted:It would be a very FF14 move if they had an ephiphany that other races had the right to exist and they just renounced evil and set up the Ascian institute for aetheric studies or something and tidily swept themselves out of the plot I would actually, unironically like this. Some of the Ascians just going "yeah, gently caress this" and becoming backseat allies to the Scions.
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Feb 5, 2021 19:59
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Rowena is Altima. I figured she was Nald'thal. (Tataru is Byregot)
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I want Zenos to absorb zodiark but to just fully do it and remain in control. Primals ain't poo poo, mortals forever baby
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thetoughestbean posted:I’d loving love if Rowena turned out to be an Ascian. It would be hilarious The creator of the greatest calamity of all: capitalism.
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thetoughestbean posted:I’d loving love if Rowena turned out to be an Ascian. It would be hilarious WrightOfWay posted:The creator of the greatest calamity of all: capitalism. Rowena comes to the first and changes her name and appearance slightly. We're through the looking glass here people... Jetrauben posted:I would actually, unironically like this. Some of the Ascians just going "yeah, gently caress this" and becoming backseat allies to the Scions. this is my hope for Gaia, popping in and out of the First, maybe with Ryne in tow.
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Feb 5, 2021 22:50
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eh I think Gaia wants to live as a normal girl at least for the time being
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Feb 5, 2021 22:56
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Rowena isn't an Ascian because she is a Primal created by the unending faith that Ul'dahns have in the power of the free market.
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Speaking of that, in the 5.3 ending I noticed that when Lyna is giving her goodbye speech to the Scions, she says that everyone is praying with all their hearts for the Exarch's safety. Oh yeah, Lyna? Everyone in the city is making one big fervent wish at the giant crystal that's filled to the brim with hope energy, you say? 
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Chillgamesh posted:Speaking of that, in the 5.3 ending I noticed that when Lyna is giving her goodbye speech to the Scions, she says that everyone is praying with all their hearts for the Exarch's safety. You better believe the Allagans set the PRIMAL flag to N.
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SirSamVimes posted:Rowena isn't an Ascian because she is a Primal created by the unending faith that Ul'dahns have in the power of the free market. Is INVISIBLE HAND a tankbuster
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Zomborgon posted:Is INVISIBLE HAND a tankbuster
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Chillgamesh posted:Speaking of that, in the 5.3 ending I noticed that when Lyna is giving her goodbye speech to the Scions, she says that everyone is praying with all their hearts for the Exarch's safety. I feel like if you've got your hand on the sword at the mention of prayer, you may have entered the range of paranoia.
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Feb 6, 2021 00:42
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Please; FFXIV x Monster Hunter again
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Alphinaud what the gently caress was that?!
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Moon's haunted.
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Also no color in the JP name it seems. Dawn of Finale.
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Feb 6, 2021 02:39
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GUNDAMN FUNNELS ON A HEALER PLEASE GOD GIVE IT TO ME NOW
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Waffleman_ posted:Also no color in the JP name it seems. Dawn of Finale. Oh wow. No color this time?
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Another AST rework where they're cutting out complexity ugh. My poor first love.
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Astro sects didn't add any complexity.
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Yeah, so long as they don't gently caress with cards, Noct sect is basically just the button you grumpily press when you're playing with another AST, and I won't miss it.
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Chillgamesh posted:Yeah, so long as they don't gently caress with cards, Noct sect is basically just the button you grumpily press when you're playing with another AST, and I won't miss it. Or Scholars. Scholars exist. ...you know, theoretically. Nobody wants to play one or have one on their team anymore, but they're there.
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