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Papercut posted:
Psst, Good Christians?, you're projecting all over the floor!
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# ? Aug 10, 2010 20:58 |
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Papercut posted:[*]Islam is less a religion than a "religious ideology", because Sharia is a mandatory legal and political plan for all of society that constitutes a totalitarian means of ordering society at every level (the video then goes into "creeping Sharia", scare slides about Sharia already having a "foot in the door" in Europe, Sharia orders that drinkers be whipped! etc) Both Christianity and Judaism have "legal systems" and ideals for the ordering of society. Of the 3, Christianity probably has the least over arching politics. The Catholic church probably has the most advanced political system and at one time was a king maker and final arbiter, but the Bible really doesn't lay much of a foundation for the Catholic's organization. Judaism though is just as legalistic as anything Sharia has. People don't notice as much because Judaism doesn't seek converts. But pretty much all the negative things said about Sharia can be found in Jewish law. Orthodox Judaism and Orthodox Islam are both fairly totalitarian, but busting up Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods has fallen out of style Pretty much all religions have rules for how the priests on the laity should conduct them selves. Islam isn't special in this regard, nor is it even the most repressive when compared to the rest of Abraham's dysfunctional family.
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# ? Aug 10, 2010 21:39 |
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You are crazy. If Christians had anything like Sharia law they'd get married in Church.
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# ? Aug 10, 2010 21:41 |
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Doomclown posted:Well, I don't think this is a very good refutation. There are a million factions of Christianity and only like three or four of them don't take the Bible literally. Somehow they all and up being different sects regardless. Exactly, because they interpret those words differently. There is no one true interpretation of the Bible, just like there is no one true interpretation of the Qu'ran, even if you consider either to be the word of God.
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# ? Aug 10, 2010 23:09 |
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Papercut posted:Exactly, because they interpret those words differently. There is no one true interpretation of the Bible, just like there is no one true interpretation of the Qu'ran, even if you consider either to be the word of God. A lot of people would disagree with you.
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# ? Aug 10, 2010 23:41 |
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crime fighting hog posted:A lot of people would disagree with you. And yet they can't all agree with each other on what that one true interpretation is.
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# ? Aug 10, 2010 23:50 |
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Choadmaster posted:And yet they can't all agree with each other on what that one true interpretation is. Everyone knows it's the King James Version that is right and I have no idea why.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 01:23 |
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crime fighting hog posted:Everyone knows it's the King James Version that is right and I have no idea why. The other translations put less stress on the divinity of Christ and other articles of faith and try to put a modernistic spin on the text. Therefore, these translations are less holy than the KJV.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 01:57 |
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Pththya-lyi posted:The other translations put less stress on the divinity of Christ and other articles of faith and try to put a modernistic spin on the text. Therefore, these translations are less holy than the KJV. Is that the actual reason? I don't know poo poo about bibles so I just kinda assumed it was, like, the KJV had the most literal translation or something.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 02:35 |
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shotgunbadger posted:Is that the actual reason? I don't know poo poo about bibles so I just kinda assumed it was, like, the KJV had the most literal translation or something. There's actually a whole tradition out there that the translators who came up with the KJV were divinely guided, and that any other translation is instantly wrong and modern translators are literally possessed by Satan to fool people. As an interesting side note, there's good evidence out there that King James was gay.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 02:45 |
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Pfirti86 posted:There's actually a whole tradition out there that the translators who came up with the KJV were divinely guided, and that any other translation is instantly wrong and modern translators are literally possessed by Satan to fool people. There's actually plenty of inconsistency in the KJV and when I've spoken with pastoral candidates in the past they've regarded KJV as pretty bad overall. I honestly think the reason it is so popular is the old style of language makes people feel more connected to the past, regardless is the piss poor translation (which they don't care to hear about anyway - who cares what the original Greek says?).
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 03:00 |
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Glimm posted:There's actually plenty of inconsistency in the KJV and when I've spoken with pastoral candidates in the past they've regarded KJV as pretty bad overall. I honestly think the reason it is so popular is the old style of language makes people feel more connected to the past, regardless is the piss poor translation (which they don't care to hear about anyway - who cares what the original Greek says?). Oh yeah, I don't disagree at all. I'm just parroting what I've heard the various KJV-only people spout off.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 03:07 |
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Pththya-lyi posted:The other translations put less stress on the divinity of Christ and other articles of faith and try to put a modernistic spin on the text. Therefore, these translations are less holy than the KJV. I have this suspicion that it's simpler than that: it's older. Hardcore religious types tend to place far more emphasis on tradition, older = better taken to an extreme. These are the kind of folks who say "why should I install windows 7? 95 has a word processor and a web browser." edit: hadn't realized I hadn't refreshed this tab in an hour Glimm posted:There's actually plenty of inconsistency in the KJV and when I've spoken with pastoral candidates in the past they've regarded KJV as pretty bad overall. I honestly think the reason it is so popular is the old style of language makes people feel more connected to the past, regardless is the piss poor translation (which they don't care to hear about anyway - who cares what the original Greek says?). Think about the mentality of any of the folks who wrote the poo poo posted in this thread. Do you think they value the input of highfalutin linguist types? Do you think they do research and base their opinions on what's supported by the preponderance of evidence? Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Aug 11, 2010 |
# ? Aug 11, 2010 03:51 |
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Glimm posted:There's actually plenty of inconsistency in the KJV and when I've spoken with pastoral candidates in the past they've regarded KJV as pretty bad overall. I honestly think the reason it is so popular is the old style of language makes people feel more connected to the past, regardless is the piss poor translation (which they don't care to hear about anyway - who cares what the original Greek says?). Um excuse me but the bible was written in ENGLISH do you not see KING JAMES right on the cover?
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 04:19 |
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King James was a Scot. My English friend says they're all wankers. Case closed.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 04:48 |
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IIRC the KJB was translated to English from the Latin and not the Greek, and as such is more prone to translation errors since it is a translation of a translation of a translation.
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 21:08 |
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the yellow dart posted:IIRC the KJB was translated to English from the Latin and not the Greek, and as such is more prone to translation errors since it is a translation of a translation of a translation. Jesus was an AMERICAN why would he write the BIBLE in one of those languages are you crazy, TEACH ENGLISH!!
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# ? Aug 11, 2010 23:43 |
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KJB was also a political document written to support the monarch and gently caress with the puritans. I say this with confidence: worst translation ever. Good thing the ascendant religious cults in the USA are based on it. euphronius fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Aug 11, 2010 |
# ? Aug 11, 2010 23:48 |
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My grandfather put me back on his mailing list. It's mostly crotchy old man ranting about kids these days until the quote at the end. It's particularly hilarious coming from him since he had a piss-poor childhood filled with heinous abuse and hungar in the middle of nowhere. But never mind that! Things were better in his day! quote:No matter what our kids and the new generation think about us, I deleted it anyway. Hope that doesn't negate all those years of church attendance.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 00:55 |
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quote:"With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?" That's it. I've read too much bull poo poo today. I can't take anymore.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 01:08 |
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This sounds totally like Jay Leno down to the subject matter and inflection.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 01:13 |
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quote:"With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?" Naw man naw *ba-dum-tish*
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 01:20 |
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euphronius posted:
I'd just send back "I'm not impressed with his performance thus far."
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 01:50 |
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Man, wasn't life great back when the childhood mortality rate was 20 times what it is now? We got to do all these dangerous things and we1 turned out fine. 1. The ones who didn't die or get crippled in stupid accidents.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 02:05 |
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oxbrain posted:Man, wasn't life great back when the childhood mortality rate was 20 times what it is now? We got to do all these dangerous things and we1 turned out fine.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 02:28 |
Who the gently caress was eating dirt?
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 02:55 |
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Armyman25 posted:Who the gently caress was eating dirt? Duh, the guy going to school uphill both ways.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 03:03 |
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Hardcore Phonography posted:Duh, the guy going to school uphill both ways. Twenty miles uphill. While being chased by rottweilers.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 03:28 |
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Armyman25 posted:Who the gently caress was eating dirt? People who had pica , pretty much. I grew up in a really poor mountain area and there were families where all the kids were known for eating dirt, and also were all malnourished.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 03:57 |
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quote:OUR Lives are LIVING PROOF !!! One of my cousins born in that time period actually died of head trauma in a bike accident. If I had kids, they'd be wearing helmets while riding a bike. If a $30 helmet can prevent a fatality, I can't think of one reason not to wear one. My parents each know at least one kid who died in a farm equipment accident in that period too. It's not as though no one ever died from accidents. quote:First, we survived being born to mothers who may have smoked and/or drank Oh, that explains this Email, actually. Edit: I see Jay Leno is being blamed for all this reactionary stuff. It used to be George Carlin for some reason. Just search his name on snopes.com . Cacatua fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 12, 2010 |
# ? Aug 12, 2010 04:12 |
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Brennanite posted:
quote:These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, Yes, those of you who did not DIE OF POLIO gave us Play Stations, Nintendos and X-boxes, video games, cable TV, DVD's, CD's surround sound, cell phones, personal computers, the internet and chat rooms! Not to mentions electronic mail that allows you to share your bullshit!
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 07:55 |
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quote:MEXICO IS ANGRY! While the contents of the email are true gently caress this smug poo poo.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 08:07 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:While the contents of the email are true gently caress this smug poo poo. It's actually an interesting commentary in that if we wanted to pass such a law, it would appear to be effective at its goal no matter how distasteful.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 08:34 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:While the contents of the email are true gently caress this smug poo poo. I have to wonder how true it actually is. The quotes used make it seem like the legislators are worried about Sonorans returning home and that may be true. But it seems the real problem would be non-Sonorans who travelled from other parts of Mexico to Arizona and are now coming to Sonora. If I was the Sonoran government, I'd be concerned about a flood of outsiders into Sonora without jobs, a place to stay, or the resources to get to their home state.
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# ? Aug 12, 2010 18:08 |
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More facebook fun, something I've seen crop up recentlyquote:If you think, that putting up a mosque, 600 ft. from ground zero and have the inauguration, on the anniversary of 9/11/01, is immoral, inhuman and a complete lack of respect to the memories, of all that perished there on that day and their survivors. That politicians are doing a grave injustice to the fallen heroes, their families and all the people of New York City, COPY AND PASTE THIS TO YOUR WALL
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 07:50 |
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Got this one recently today from a coworker. *sigh* quote:
Many of the examples don't even fit the descriptions. But I guess the email is assume you know nothing about countries outside of the united states.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 18:59 |
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Why, yes, email author, Islam is a way of life that involves Politics, Religion, Economics, etc. In no way, shape or form does Big C Christianity or Big J Judaism do the same things. No sir.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 19:03 |
I'd be curious to see the correlation between a large Catholic population and civil unrest and poverty. Of course, Papists aren't really Christians anyway.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 19:32 |
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I wonder if such a study for atheists exist, just out of curiosity.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 19:41 |
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crime fighting hog posted:I wonder if such a study for atheists exist, just out of curiosity. Problem would be finding a number close enough to 100% to make that kind of firm statement I'd guess.
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# ? Aug 16, 2010 20:07 |