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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Yea, my wader plan is to abandon ship and get to shore if I flip. My winter fishing is all working shores and docks for pickerel, so I am rarely more then 20-50' from shore. If I ever hit open water for stripers then the drysuit gets used.

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Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

bongwizzard posted:

Yea, my wader plan is to abandon ship and get to shore if I flip. My winter fishing is all working shores and docks for pickerel, so I am rarely more then 20-50' from shore. If I ever hit open water for stripers then the drysuit gets used.

If you die I will be for real upset because you, Gene Jensen, and my old rear end neighbor Larry have made me a pretty good bass fisherman in 2 months.

hagie
Apr 6, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied
I'm really only giving the kayak another week, 2 at tops. I'm not looking to do near-freezing or freezing temperatures. Air temps in the 50s in the early morning and water in the 70s can make for chilly feet/legs for a little.

I've got some old galoshes that almost make it to my knees that may work. Just roll up my pants and wade in.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

If you die I will be for real upset because you, Gene Jensen, and my old rear end neighbor Larry have made me a pretty good bass fisherman in 2 months.

Hah, well I have only been "seriously" bass fishing for about a year now, so dont listen to me too much. Gene is a good resource, but honestly watching MLF on youtube gave me more info about technique then anything. Most youtubers cant do full body shots, which is huge for learning to cast and work lures.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

bongwizzard posted:

Hah, well I have only been "seriously" bass fishing for about a year now, so dont listen to me too much. Gene is a good resource, but honestly watching MLF on youtube gave me more info about technique then anything. Most youtubers cant do full body shots, which is huge for learning to cast and work lures.

I have a pretty sweet one handed side arm cast that goes further than the traditional overhead because it gets really good torque and I can launch it travelling upwards.

It's also really exhausting on your shoulder but I have to do it due to dense tree cover in the area.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
I am pretty decent at one hand casting spinning rigs, but for bait casters I need both hands for any accuracy. That is where the full body video saved me, I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong until I saw the entire motion.

I still suck with a caster, and am making it worse by obsessing over bait finesse poo poo. I am up to my third respool on that dumb little reel. I get cocky and backlashing the gently caress out of it.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
speaking of baitcasters

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
It's me, Im the old man who is going to repost that everywhere.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
I just started a new job at a fishing tackle wholesaler/distributor... I'm going to have a pretty decent collection of gear in a little while, the staff prices are insane

gamera009
Apr 7, 2005

gay picnic defence posted:

I just started a new job at a fishing tackle wholesaler/distributor... I'm going to have a pretty decent collection of gear in a little while, the staff prices are insane

So when are you extending that to some of us fishergoons? :getin:

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

gay picnic defence posted:

I just started a new job at a fishing tackle wholesaler/distributor... I'm going to have a pretty decent collection of gear in a little while, the staff prices are insane

Hey baby.....


Fish from the last weeks or so:






I feel like I have turned a corner and now can understand why I catch a specific fish rather then it just being blind luck. It only took three years of obsessive reading and asking annoying questions!

Mukulu
Jul 14, 2006

Stop. Drop. Shut 'em down open up shop.
I want fall walleye. I can find no fall walleye. I have problems.

gamera009
Apr 7, 2005

Mukulu posted:

I want fall walleye. I can find no fall walleye. I have problems.

Fishing at dusk?

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

gamera009 posted:

So when are you extending that to some of us fishergoons? :getin:

you gotta be in melbourne for starters... i ain't posting to the US

Got a Quantum Cabo 50 yesterday for about half the normal retail price, now I just need a stick bait rod to go with it. I think I've narrowed it down to either a 10-15kg Crucis Hoodlum or a 15-24kg Shimano Revolution travel rod. Work doesn't have much by way of 7' heavy spin rods any more unfortuntely

BrassRoots
Jan 9, 2012

You can play a shoestring if you're sincere - John Coltrane

gay picnic defence posted:

you gotta be in melbourne for starters... i ain't posting to the US

Got a Quantum Cabo 50 yesterday for about half the normal retail price, now I just need a stick bait rod to go with it. I think I've narrowed it down to either a 10-15kg Crucis Hoodlum or a 15-24kg Shimano Revolution travel rod. Work doesn't have much by way of 7' heavy spin rods any more unfortuntely

Really? Can you drop who you are working for or is it too personal?

What fish are you chasing? I'm up in Sydney and rods of that size are pretty much overkill for anything but large kings.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

BrassRoots posted:

Really? Can you drop who you are working for or is it too personal?

What fish are you chasing? I'm up in Sydney and rods of that size are pretty much overkill for anything but large kings.

Probably best I don't name them

Kings and school size tuna are the intended targets, those are the only things down here aside from sharks that you'd need a rod over 10kg really

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
Got a PB squid today, 47cm hood length



Otherwise it was a pretty quiet day, a handful of squid and a pike


coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
So what do you do with squid of that size? Do you just toss em back and say that was fun, are they good eating? I'm not a huge fan of eating squid but I mostly fish for something I can have for supper if I'm good/lucky enough, and I've never caught a squid.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Squid is delicious and makes excellent cut bait. It's a win-win.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

coyo7e posted:

So what do you do with squid of that size? Do you just toss em back and say that was fun, are they good eating? I'm not a huge fan of eating squid but I mostly fish for something I can have for supper if I'm good/lucky enough, and I've never caught a squid.

East them or use them as bait. They make a fantastic bait, they're really tough so they stay on the hook and survive the bait pickers a bit longer than other common baits, plus pretty much everything in the water here eats them.
That really big one was a bit tough though so in future any monsters will probably end up as bait, but even if I do decide to eat them the heads and wings can be used as bait too so nothing goes to waste

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
And this is what I did with the leftover bits of squid

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Anyone have any good advice for Fall bass fishing on a pond in the Northeast?

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Conventional wisdom dictates that suspending jerk baits fished painfully slowly is the way to get them in the late fall/early winter. A jig, also fished very slowly, is the other go to winter bait for a lot of people. The main thing I think is to slow down whatever presentation you are using to allow the increasingly lethargic bass a little more time to make the hit.

I have had the last couple weeks off but I've only had sporadic luck targeting bass, no more than a fish or two a day irrespective of where I've been. Today I went to a reservoir I've only been to once before. No bass, but I caught between 15 and 20 good size rainbow trout. The first one was quite a surprise as none of the statewide stocking notification emails mention this place. They were all caught on assortment of small jerk baits or lipless cranks that I brought to mess around with on a bait finesse system combo I had put together. I had forgotten what spazzes trout are once you get them out of the water, especially compared to a largemouth who generally calms down and accepts his fate pretty quickly.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Nice, I'll give it a shot.

charliebravo77
Jun 11, 2003

So I think I am going to give up hunting for a year and make an effort to fly fish instead, since I have used the setup I got last xmas exactly once. I live near Chicago, but am willing to travel to find some good spots. Anyone have experience in IL or WI and able to make some recommendations of places to check out?

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
I would just like to take a moment to spit on everyone who said it would be perfectly easy to throw a cast net despite having zero experience or guidance short of youtube, and despite getting over a shoulder sprain from 3 weeks ago. They are full of poo poo and I want to whack them with the thing. After I've taken more Aleve.

I am so loving sick of people who have been fishing their whole lives and have the benefit of close family and friends that fish saying that it's the easiest and most relaxing thing to learn in the world. gently caress you, I learned this poo poo by myself. It's not easy. It's frustrating.

Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 29, 2016

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Lol meltdown in the fishing thread!
:getin:

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Seriously tho fishing can be easy and relaxing sometimes but it definitely isn't all the time and can be the most frustrating thing on earth. Aside from throwing the cast net, what are you struggling with?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Didn't really expect to see something that unchill.

Not chill man.

TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


Maybe fishing isn't the sport for you if you get that upset about learning something new.

Also lol @ anyone that said throwing net is easy.

damug
Jun 21, 2004
I can confirm from first hand experience that learning to pitch a cast net basically requires an advanced understanding of black magic.

damug fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Nov 30, 2016

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

damug posted:

I can confirm from first hand experience that learning to pitch a cast net is basically requires an advanced understanding of black magic.

Yeah I'll continue to let these little idiots bite plastic hiding a hook and yanking em out of the water.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
I like learning new stuff and enjoy fishing but it's a pain in the rear end when people go 'lol so easy' with every drat thing. Baseball's a pretty simple game, just hit the ball with the bat! Run around a bit! Shucks, it's all just luck. Why are you struggling so much, these guys on TV do it no problem every night! Maybe you should just quit if you're having so much trouble.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Suspect Bucket posted:

I like learning new stuff and enjoy fishing but it's a pain in the rear end when people go 'lol so easy' with every drat thing. Baseball's a pretty simple game, just hit the ball with the bat! Run around a bit! Shucks, it's all just luck. Why are you struggling so much, these guys on TV do it no problem every night! Maybe you should just quit if you're having so much trouble.

Fishing is wizardry and guesstimates. I have no control except where I cast.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Suspect Bucket posted:

I like learning new stuff and enjoy fishing but it's a pain in the rear end when people go 'lol so easy' with every drat thing. Baseball's a pretty simple game, just hit the ball with the bat! Run around a bit! Shucks, it's all just luck. Why are you struggling so much, these guys on TV do it no problem every night! Maybe you should just quit if you're having so much trouble.

Where are you located and what type of fishing are you doing? Most of what I know (and I consider myself intermediate at best) I learned by fishing with people who know more than I do. The rest was trial and error or internet.

If possible, I suggest finding a way to go out with more experienced people, even if that means shelling out for a charter trip.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Suspect Bucket posted:

I would just like to take a moment to spit on everyone who said it would be perfectly easy to throw a cast net despite having zero experience or guidance short of youtube, and despite getting over a shoulder sprain from 3 weeks ago. They are full of poo poo and I want to whack them with the thing. After I've taken more Aleve.

I am so loving sick of people who have been fishing their whole lives and have the benefit of close family and friends that fish saying that it's the easiest and most relaxing thing to learn in the world. gently caress you, I learned this poo poo by myself. It's not easy. It's frustrating.
Naw you're right. Learning almost any skill in a vacuum is frustrating as gently caress (unless you're some kid of savant, and in fishing especially, it's often impossible to tell what you're doing wrong until you hang out with someone who's doing it CORRECTLY.)

Perhaps you should focus on connecting with more-skilled folks as a networking project, like you would as a professional in most jobs. I dunno who told you to go throw nets, I would consider that as you having been trolled - sorry.


It comes down to two philosophies of fishing - either you want to man-in-the-wild solo it for the solitude and "survivorman" abilities, or you meet some cool (and often not so cool depending on your politics) loving people who have more gear and experience than you do... Only one of those methods is going to be guaranteed to be successful, sorry goons

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Eh, I taught myself to fish with just the internet to go by. It's been maybe three years total with maybe one year of "serious" bass fishing but I feel like I have a pretty good handle on what I am doing and more importantly what I need to improve. But I did devote almost all of my (admittedly ample) free time to the process, I usually make it out at least once a week and sometimes 3-4 times.

My general advice is to pick something specific to focus on. Like, pick a species, a location, and a style/type of lure and just work on that until you start catching. You will need some guidance on this stuff, but that is all basic poo poo that spending a day reading whatever local forum you can find.

For bass fishing at least, there isnt really a "magic lure", but there are things that universal work very well if you know where/when/how to throw them.

At it's core, fishing is stupid easy, throw a thing in the water with some string tied to it and maybe something will bite it! What is hard is working out where the fish are in a given moment and what, in that given moment, will make them hungey/mad enough to bite.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
I sort of taught myself although I have had the opportunity to fish with some very good fishermen along the way who have contributed a lot too. My first few outings were downright embarrassing in hindsight and I'm glad I picked a secluded spot for those first attempts. I couldn't tell the difference between the movement of the rod tip due to waves and the twitches from fish biting, and as a result was striking at everything. I had rods that were totally inappropriate for where I was fishing, and tried to catch species that did not live in that area.

My advice is to be prepared to do a lot of reading. There is so much information online these days, not like the old days where you had to buy a heap of poo poo from the tackle shop or know someone who fishes regularly to get any sort of instruction. Something I learned is to focus on catching one species using one method. Where I fish there are a lot of different targets that require different techniques and trying to catch all of them at once will see you catch none of them.

Search Google, use Google's site: search function to find information on forums, watch youtube, use Google Earth to scout fishing spots before you head out and use sites like the Navionics Webapp if you're fishing saltwater to identify access to deeper water. Join a specialist fishing forum that has a lot of members in your area, just don't come across as too needy or chase secret spots as fishermen tend to resent that. Tell them about your attempts at fishing, what went wrong and ask what you should try next time to avoid those mistakes; then try fishing again using what you have learned and .ask them about the issues you encountered that second time around, and so on.

Finally, if possible start out with bait fishing. It is easy as long as you can tie knots and cast with enough accuracy to get it in the water. You can use circle hooks so you don't even have to time the strike right

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!
Hey all. Anyone here fish with kayak? I have an Ocean Kayak Angler II and want to install a fish-finder on it. I've been looking at the Helix-5 G2 SI. Thoughts?

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Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

ManofManyAliases posted:

Hey all. Anyone here fish with kayak? I have an Ocean Kayak Angler II and want to install a fish-finder on it. I've been looking at the Helix-5 G2 SI. Thoughts?

All I know about fishing off a canoe is that you need an anchor for wind and to cast straight down the front of the boat to minimize rotation. Are you going to be fishing in the ocean?

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