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| Magnus +2 or More |
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11 | 32.35% |
| Magnus +1 |
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8 | 23.53% |
| Magnus in Tie-breaks |
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4 | 11.76% |
| Karjakin in Tie-breaks |
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0 | 0% |
| Karjakin +1 |
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1 | 2.94% |
| Nuclear War |
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10 | 29.41% |
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Hand Knit posted:1. Four rapid games. If there is no winner then Good thing you quoted the rulebook because I thought you were joking. I really want tie breakers now.
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Nov 25, 2016 18:14
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straight up brolic posted:More stringent time limits heavily favor Magnus right? Isn't he the best blitz player other than that Chinese dude rn? He should be a heavy favourite in every format, but he doesn't seem to be playing his best right now.
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Nov 25, 2016 18:46
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Teddybear posted:I kinda want this to go to tiebreaks because that kind of rapid fire chess and commentary seems like it'd be awesome to watch. It is. Rapid chess is a much better spectator experience in my opinion (although certainly many chess players would disagree) straight up brolic posted:More stringent time limits heavily favor Magnus right? Carlsen is great at faster chess, but Karjakin is hardly bad at it and the nature of tiebreaks somewhat randomises the result. Carlsen definitely will want to win the match outright, he has little incentive to play bloodless draws in the next two games.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:31
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Novice question: Both of these guys have put extensive time into preparing opening lines. Is it possible someone has prepared a really obscure line that they saved for their final White side match? Or would they have used some new "find" in an earlier game?
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Nov 25, 2016 19:34
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Would be a shame if you lost the match before you could use your super duper prep though?
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Nov 25, 2016 19:37
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Teddybear posted:I kinda want this to go to tiebreaks because that kind of rapid fire chess and commentary seems like it'd be awesome to watch. Yea, it's awesome. For example: https://youtu.be/r55kzq2ME94
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Nov 25, 2016 19:41
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Zteuer posted:Would be a shame if you lost the match before you could use your super duper prep though? It's also really hard to find a truly new idea in an opening now that so many games are immediately public and searchable. It's more like the players will have three stocks of openings, for if they need a win, they want to press, or they just want a safe game. All of these lines will be prepared with some degree of novelty, if only because they have to be able to anticipate their opponent's non-theoretical moves. Magnus' opening strategy, for instance, isn't to try and bury someone immediately, but rather to create a position with permanent imbalances so he can eventually outplay his opponent.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:46
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It's cool to watch, but I've watched a couple of games and I kind of miss the slower games giving me the time to see at least some of what they're going for. Obviously I'll never get much more than a fraction of what Carlsen and Karjakin are trying to do, but blitz games are too quick for a bad like me to even identify what's pinning what or where there might be some holes in the defence.
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Nov 25, 2016 19:52
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How come 1. d4, Nf6 is out of vogue? It used to be very popular on GM level because black evades symmetry from the start and gets active play.AnacondaHL posted:Yea, it's awesome. For example: What's going on there? The clock seems to work normally until 0:02 / 0:10 and then stops.
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Nov 25, 2016 22:32
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Hand Knit posted:He should be a heavy favourite in every format, but he doesn't seem to be playing his best right now. Didn't see Karjakin on the FIDE rapid rankings, but isn't it possible that their rating difference is smaller in rapid/blitz than standard, making Carlsen less of a favourite?
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Nov 25, 2016 22:43
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a cow posted:Didn't see Karjakin on the FIDE rapid rankings, but isn't it possible that their rating difference is smaller in rapid/blitz than standard, making Carlsen less of a favourite? Looking at 2700chess.com, the rating difference is slightly bigger in rapid. But it's difficult to say considering how out of form Carlsen has been playing.
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Nov 25, 2016 22:50
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Doctor Malaver posted:How come 1. d4, Nf6 is out of vogue? It used to be very popular on GM level because black evades symmetry from the start and gets active play. Looks like the clock waits a few seconds before starting to count down each time, so when they start playing moves quicker than that buffer it never gets a chance to start counting down.
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Nov 25, 2016 22:59
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Doctor Malaver posted:How come 1. d4, Nf6 is out of vogue? It used to be very popular on GM level because black evades symmetry from the start and gets active play. One sort of clock setting, much more common in Europe than America I think, is that instead of time added with every move, there is instead a delay before every move. The idea is that games can still play out in full (as happened in that game), but players can't build up their clock by repeating moves or playing aimlessly.
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Nov 25, 2016 23:35
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Doctor Malaver posted:What's going on there? The clock seems to work normally until 0:02 / 0:10 and then stops. Yea, it's a 2 second delay for these blitz games. You can see the delay counter on that clock on the bottom-right if you look close. Deformed Church posted:It's cool to watch, but I've watched a couple of games and I kind of miss the slower games giving me the time to see at least some of what they're going for. Obviously I'll never get much more than a fraction of what Carlsen and Karjakin are trying to do, but blitz games are too quick for a bad like me to even identify what's pinning what or where there might be some holes in the defence. It's all about the hype. Leave the analysis for the post-game. Or just sit there and have some fun (just in case you're not a fan of Fabiano Caruana yet  )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eweEMlsiOKo
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Nov 26, 2016 05:07
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Deformed Church posted:It's cool to watch, but I've watched a couple of games and I kind of miss the slower games giving me the time to see at least some of what they're going for. Obviously I'll never get much more than a fraction of what Carlsen and Karjakin are trying to do, but blitz games are too quick for a bad like me to even identify what's pinning what or where there might be some holes in the defence. That's why I like rapid. A time control like 25+10 is long enough for the commentators to give some detailed analysis and the players to play a complete, reasonably good quality game. And at the same time, it's short enough to realistically watch in a single sitting and reduces the need for cricket chat during a half-hour break between moves. Doctor Malaver posted:How come 1. d4, Nf6 is out of vogue? It used to be very popular on GM level because black evades symmetry from the start and gets active play. It's not. It just happens to have not featured in this match yet, but in general grandmaster play it's the most common reply to 1. d4 by a wide margin.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:37
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AnacondaHL posted:It's all about the hype. Leave the analysis for the post-game. They need software that displays the moves on a 2D board in real time.
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Nov 26, 2016 10:02
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I'm pretty terrible at chess, so can someone explain what Karjakin was trying to do in this move from the last game? Why move a knight to a corner of the board where it can't do anything when it's not even under any pressure?
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Nov 26, 2016 13:06
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I'm also terrible at chess, but isn't this a case of making the least bad move?
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Nov 26, 2016 13:20
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Blurred posted:I'm pretty terrible at chess, so can someone explain what Karjakin was trying to do in this move from the last game? In slow, manoeuvring games you have time to move your pieces to the best possible squares. The knight on g6 can't do poo poo, so Karjakin's plan is to get it to h6 where it will either be able to go to g4 or, in case Magnus pushes his pawn to e5, f5. e: Nimzowitsch-Rubenstein is probably the most famous example of rerouting your knight through a corner square. Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 13:25
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Has my feed gone wrong or have they shifted all the pawns forward one? Edit: yes, my app hosed up, games hasn't even started! notaspy fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 18:15
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Doctor Malaver posted:They need software that displays the moves on a 2D board in real time. Clarification: they need better software/hardware that displays the moves in real time, because the current serial port sensor stuff they're using now is iffy.
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Nov 26, 2016 18:47
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Ugh, was hoping for something else than Ruy Lopez for once.
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Nov 26, 2016 20:07
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Magnus seems to have a safe position very quickly. I guess he'll try to parry the kingside and then press on the queenside.
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Nov 26, 2016 20:18
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Jan Gustafsson, destroyer of children.
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Nov 26, 2016 20:36
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Hand Knit posted:Jan Gustafsson, destroyer of children. The en passant demo was classic. Svidler's laugh when it happened was perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZKl-uhnAeI
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Nov 26, 2016 21:10
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Has the Sicilian defense fallen out of favor in super GM play?
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Nov 26, 2016 21:18
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gret posted:Has the Sicilian defense fallen out of favor in super GM play? I think that the Najdorf is currently in a state where the theory is so concrete that's it's too easy for either side to force a draw if they want to.
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Nov 26, 2016 21:22
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Freaking theory these days 
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Nov 26, 2016 21:29
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Magnus going for complications. Seems kinda risky.
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Nov 26, 2016 21:41
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I don't think Jan/Svidler is quite as good a combination at commentating as Hansen/Svidler, but on the other hand Jan makes much better facial expressions
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Nov 26, 2016 21:48
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Hand Knit posted:Magnus going for complications. Seems kinda risky. Seems like the only way for him to control the game. Someone wrote an effortpost yesterday on reddit about how Magnus wants to force Karjakin to have many choices, while Karjakin wants simple positions. E: https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/5er244/postgame_thread_2016_world_chess_championship/dafhnsx/
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Nov 26, 2016 21:50
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TheRat posted:Seems like the only way for him to control the game. Someone wrote an effortpost yesterday on reddit about how Magnus wants to force Karjakin to have many choices, while Karjakin wants simple positions. This is believable. Magnus believes he is the better player, and wants to maximize his opportunities to outplay his opponents.
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Nov 26, 2016 22:29
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Game 12 and we have another Berlin. Magnus doesn't play d3, which I find mildly surprising since he does very well in it. But he played Re1 in game 3 and that turned out pretty well.
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Nov 28, 2016 20:02
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Hand Knit posted:Game 12 and we have another Berlin. Magnus doesn't play d3, which I find mildly surprising since he does very well in it. But he played Re1 in game 3 and that turned out pretty well. technically that was the Re2 OTB mouseslip game 
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Nov 28, 2016 20:18
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AnacondaHL posted:technically that was the Re2 OTB mouseslip game Haha, I was thinking about the initial Re1, not the retreat. But yeah this game looks like it's going to be over in half an hour.
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Nov 28, 2016 20:20
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Hand Knit posted:Haha, I was thinking about the initial Re1, not the retreat. "What are you going to do with the extra five hours you're gaining from this match drawing in the next 20 minutes?" "I don't know, actually."
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Nov 28, 2016 20:28
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So if this draws, when do the tiebreaks take place? Tomorrow? Today?
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Nov 28, 2016 20:30
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Teddybear posted:So if this draws, when do the tiebreaks take place? Tomorrow? Today? Wednesday I believe
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Nov 28, 2016 20:35
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Wednesday, same start time.
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Nov 28, 2016 20:40
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Well, this drew. Excited for tiebreaks.
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Nov 28, 2016 20:42
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