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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Big Beef City posted:

Boring.
I want to see Joven fight a polar bear god dammit. That's why they have numbers :mad:

No, I think Joven does fight the polar bear

It's just that he doesn't just poof into existence during a duel like on Yu-Gi-Oh

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The polar bear is inside him

Pastel Candy Snake
Sep 6, 2018

by Hand Knit
Inside you are two polar bears.



And also Joven.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Joven could have at least bought me dinner first

Pug Rodeo
Feb 20, 2007

BRING IT ON BRING IT ON YEAH


Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Ultra Carp

It's their best album

Brother Tadger
Feb 15, 2012

I'm accidentally a suicide bomber!


:five:

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



These are about as close as one can get to the "word of god" on how a MTG game would look from the perspective of the participants:

Richard Garfield posted:

Worzel felt the telltale prickling at the back of her neck; her domain was being challenged! It’s someone old, she thought. Someone I know… Thomil! It had been a long time since he had challenged her. Quickly, she called her vassals into action. She would need much mana for this duel, much indeed.

The last time Worzel fought with Thomil, he had focused on the destructive magic of the mountains. It had been a close fight; she still saw in her nightmares the brigade of firebreathers that had pushed her to the brink of submission. Since then, Worzel had learned from a specialist in white magic that there were ways to protect herself from the raw force Thomil loved. Unfortunately, the white magician had been unwilling to part with the knowledge in exchange for her offered artifact; she had been forced to coerce it out of him in other, more violent ways. It took a while, but she was a far more experienced duelist than he, and in time he was forced to yield what she sought.

Worzel soon found that gathering the proper mana for her protective spells was going to be difficult. She needed the mana of the countryside, and disturbances in the ether were preventing her from making the necessary psychic bonds to any of those lands. She had precious little to draw on in the first place, so it could take a while before she managed to get a link to the plains. Just having the knowledge to protect yourself isn’t enough, she thought. Well, let’s see if I can’t stall him with my friends of the forest in the meantime.

Worzel resisted the temptation to invest herself in blue magic, in case the rumor that Thomil had taken to raising serpents had any truth. Now she began to regret the loss of the Glasses of Urza, which might have given her some clue where the focus of his attack would be.

Thomil countered her creatures with a legion of undead. Black magic, she thought. Thomil! I wouldn’t have expected that from you. Thomil had always enjoyed displays of pure power, but she had regarded him as a relatively clean fighter. At least, cleaner than most.

A sudden sense of horror came over Worzel as she felt a large drain on the mana plane— an enormous drain, accompanied by a stink of sulfur and the grave. Something big was coming.

Learned some new tricks since we last met, eh? muttered Worzel, under her breath. Well, so have I, dear Thomil, so have I.

It was going to be a tough fight.

















Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Who What Now posted:

Now Planeswalkers are lame dipshits who are just moderately powerful wizards who are good at teleporting across dimensions with dumb names like "Arzakon", "Emberek" or "Jace".

You rang?



BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
MTG has gone in strange directions since I quit playing, among the most distressing was the apparent inclusion of Godzilla of all properties into MTG



I finally googled wtf those Godzilla cards they printed were so I could talk about them without sounding like Andy Rooney and it feels like these are magic cards wearing godzilla halloween costumes



the words circled in red here is the actual card, and frankly i'm very nonplussed at this revelation. I feel like just bringing Godzilla into MTG was somehow less insulting than this façade.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
It was a way to just do a fun art-swap for cards without affecting any functionality. I fuckin' love playing with Mechagodzilla and Dorat.

Here's a fun one, Wizards shipped a few of this card right before Covid struck, and they had to recall them all and cancel the digital versions:



They canceled Death Corona in a set that happened to have cards named "Bushmeat Poacher" and "Gloom Pangolin", mind you.

More recently they did a Bram Stoker variation on the Vampire set:

https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/innistrad-crimson-vow-to-feature-dracula-series-cards/





Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Mar 15, 2022

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!

Zero VGS posted:

They canceled Death Corona in a set that happened to have cards named "Bushmeat Poacher" and "Gloom Pangolin", mind you.

what in the

obithrawn
Apr 22, 2003


the Godzilla lands rule



but then also there was some Walking Dead tie-in that I think had unique planeswalker or creature cards that were unique and legal in some formats and people lost their poo poo, MaRo has said a few times on his QA thing since that they aren't looking to do those again.

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
wait can we go back to the asian pangolin bushmeat thing featuring a card called "Death Corona" that almost coincided with the start of a 2 year long pandemic, I feel like we should at least have a moment of silence for how monumentally insane that is

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Zero VGS posted:

You rang?





In the mtg multiverse, nuRock never died

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

obithrawn posted:

the Godzilla lands rule



but then also there was some Walking Dead tie-in that I think had unique planeswalker or creature cards that were unique and legal in some formats and people lost their poo poo, MaRo has said a few times on his QA thing since that they aren't looking to do those again.

The lands actually do look decent which is funny because I loving hate the look of new cards.

Runaway Trashbot
Mar 13, 2022

by Games Forum
Hello

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
Good flavor texts



BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

So does it have to be an existing card, or can you just make something up?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Unglued and Unhinged (?) and that one tournament where wotc bought tons of out of print cards off the secondary market to include them in prerelease booster drafts of the time cycle honestly bought so much goodwill that I can't really be upset with them, even if the business model ultimately seems suspect and predatory.

Compared to the current model of free to play phone games and in app transactions, loot boxes and a million product lines for kids that involve buying something blind where the entire thrill seems to be in opening it, the Magic model seems almost quaint.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

So does it have to be an existing card, or can you just make something up?

This is from the goofball sets (Unglued and Unhinged). They're not tournament legal, but they are very useful for annoying your friends.





I haven't played in years, looks like the newest set is based around neon cyberpunk ninjas.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Extra Large Marge posted:

I haven't played in years, looks like the newest set is based around neon cyberpunk ninjas.

My friend got me playing Arena a couple weeks ago, and there are mechas too.

bigperm
Jul 10, 2001
some obscure reference
The current set is really good. The full art lands are probably my favorite so far.



Also features Voltron:



BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
WOTC is in the hot seat at the moment.

published yesterday was some store guidelines about how to fancy up a prerelease/release event:

https://wpn.wizards.com/en/article/boost-store-play-unique-event-ideas

the article posted:

Make Your Own Halo

Halo is the magical substance that rules the criminal underworld in New Capenna, sought after by all for its magic-enhancing qualities. It comes in many forms, such as crystals, liquids, and vapors, and you may consider adding your own to your in-store events.

You might present this ethereal substance by adding stones or crystals as part of your decorations—but if you'd rather serve it as a snack or beverage, you can get creative by using treats like rock candy or a fruity punch.

Remember, please do not serve in beverageware commonly associated with alcoholic beverages (i.e., martini glasses). Remember, Magic is for all ages and everyone should feel welcome!

this is basically the equivalent of candy cigarettes. yawn.

Then there's also the war profiteering scandal WRT Ukraine:

https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/charity-bundle-backlash

the article posted:

Head of Dungeons and Dragons and game designer Ray Winninger tweeted in response to the charity bundles’ announcement a few hours later, saying “we (WotC) didn’t know anything about these charity bundles. We’ll work with DMs Guild on this.”


This is not the place for discussion about the war itself but rather this recent controversy, so I'll get back to that last controversy.

The fictional realm of New Capenna is ruled by 5 families of Demons. You know who else had 5 families ruling over a drugged up fantasy world? That's right, the Mafia in NYC.


It's anti italian discrimination.

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
damnit sorry, clip

BasicLich fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Mar 16, 2022

Knot My President!
Jan 10, 2005

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

:eyepop:

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

Listen to reason, man. Why make your job difficult?

lmao

edit: pastor joven

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

:yeshaha:

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
Ultra Carp

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Joven casts Sleight of Hand!

deadking
Apr 13, 2006

Hello? Charlemagne?!

lol

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

Listen to reason, man. Why make your job difficult?

lol

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Just thinking about 2/3 creatures and how Joven would win in a fight every time against a cloud elemental or a minotaur

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
That's what makes him a legend

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

poor bam looks terrible

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

-If your car breaks down Joven will give you a jump or a lift into town because he's a standup guy
-Joven likes microbrews but he's not snobby about it and has no problem drinking domestic beers
-Joven is a tattoo artist but he earns a little money on the side as an amateur leatherworker and blacksmith
-Joven plays in a heavy metal cover band at Snarg's once a week
-The whole thief and artifact destroyer thing is an exaggeration. He only got blackout drunk, trashed a hotel room, and walked out with the telephone twice
That is so Joven

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
Before I so rudely interrupted this thread we were just getting into the concept of combo decks in the early MTG metagame, please think of this as episode two of what I'm calling Better Know a Degenerate Combo Deck

Up for discussion today is the Recurring Nightmare deck:




This is a rare treat because it is essentially a creature-based combo deck. These two enchantments power the combo, but its the creatures that do the dirty work. This is a very fun deck because the creatures force you to interact with the opponent's deck instead of bulldozing them with some spell that outright kills an opponent with one X mana cost spell like Fireball or Drain Life. you're going to see a lot of X mana cost spells winning in combo decks as I go through them

How it works is you use all your spare mana from turn to turn to fill your graveyard with useful creatures via Survival of the Fittest there, and then bring them back over and over again to disrupt your opponents playstyle and eventually overwhelm them, or, if you can, just kill them with this bad boi:




The Recurring Nightmare deck is unique for a lot of reasons. It's a combo-control deck that runs all 5 colors, it plays a bunch of one-of creatures, and more than that it could be described as a "The Deck" archetype that uses creatures as "Silver Bullets" instead of artifacts, enchantments, sorceries, instants etc.

I'm going to try not to take up any more space with this post but I'll leave you with this:

Brian Selden won the 1998 World Championship with this deck and this card was maindecked:



e: oh I should mention that because this is a graveyard-based creature combo deck, it can easily overwhelm counterspell heavy blue decks. All you need to do is keep playing creatures until they run out of counterspells and by that point, you now have a graveyard full of useful poo poo

BasicLich fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Mar 17, 2022

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Vim Fuego posted:

Good luck figuring out the Star Trek one

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Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

I like to think "Shirtless Kirk (tm)" was actually trademarked at the USPTO and not just Kirk

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