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Jan 21, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
POTUS

:synpa:

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Apr 20, 2014

saban bajramovic

i like that posted:

My brother is non-verbal autistic. He is not capable or reading or writing. He cannot cook or use money or live independently. He needs full-time supervision. A female veterinarian with a genius iq who has her own business and stable, successful career, who is raising happy children in a healthy marriage, can somehow have the same diagnosis.

A JOKE is what the DSM and psychiatry is. These younger psychiatrists in particular don't know their head from their rear end I wouldn't trust them to feed my cat.

i like *you*

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Woulda said something earlier but you know green straws and Jesus pieces and whatnot.

You don't have pms. Fine, heres a hug. :glomp:

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Nirvikalpa posted:

Yeah I wonder why that is. There was this guy with autism in my math class who wasn't that great but was convinced he could get into MIT. It was just annoying to me that these people didn't realize how much hard work and social skills was required for success, but I guess they couldn't help it.

I did read this website that said that interest in poetry was a feature of women with autism. Oh, I found it:

https://everydayaspie.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/females-with-aspergers-syndrome-checklist-by-samantha-craft/

    A deep thinker
    A prolific writer drawn to poetry
    *Highly intelligent
    Sees things at multiple levels, including her own thinking processes
    Analyzes existence, the meaning of life, and everything, continually
    Serious and matter-of-fact in nature
    Doesn’t take things for granted
    Doesn’t simplify
    Everything is complex
    Often gets lost in own thoughts and “checks out” (blank stare)

Nahhhh

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Cubone posted:

he has difficulty reading the mood and just generally inferring social things from context, and gets frustrated by a sense of "not being told the rules." like, when he was a teenager, nobody told him to wear deodorant, so he didn't, until someone did, years later, so he just started wearing it and he still doesn't understand why nobody just explained it to him. when he explains it, it really sounds senselessly cruel that he was ostracized without even being told why, instead of even one person just mentioning that he stank and should wear deodorant, which would have solved the problem. :shrug:

It's supposed to be parents that teach their children basic life skills such as proper hygiene. How does a male teenager not know about deodorant and the need to wear it everyday? Somehow other children can detect their child smells bad enough to ostracize them, but his parents, oh they must both have some pretty serious nasal congestion and are unable to tell! Yeah they can't be neglecting their own child and failing to be around them enough and be a proper parent, it's the children that surely must have something inherently wrong with them. Let's feed them drugs forever this will fix everything goodbye now!!!!! -- literally the medical establishment

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
It's true researchers and psychiatry have no idea how to classify autism. There is an underlying "nuerotype" that is autism, but they only diagnose based on intellectual, emotional, or communicative delays. It is possible to be autistic without significant damage. It is much more likely to have developmental trauma and PTSD, or coincidental disorders like OCD and ADHD.

There is a growing trend of adult diagnosis, especially when the adult's child is diagnosed, as there is a strong hereditary component to autism. The knowledge base of autism is changing almost daily as a result.

Early intervention, along with good therapy (not that ABA bullshit, or forcing your child to drink bleach to kill imaginary worms in their digestive tract) goes really far to helping someone become self sufficient and productive.

After my son was diagnosed, we learned a lot about how to tailor our parenting and teaching to the autism. The first speech therapist kept trying to force eye contact, and failed to make the progress she hoped for. We changed to a therapist who deals mainly with autistic kids and our son is now very social and talks non-stop. The approach was different, making use of "good" autistic traits without forcing "nuerotypical" expectations on him like sustained eye contact.

I fully expect my son to always be different. He'll always deal with sensory overload and he has other, non-autistic health issues, but he's on track to be happy and social. He shows huge empathy for others and their pain. Most people think he's not autistic, because he isn't Sheldon Cooper, but he is. He just isn't going to suffer the same damage I did because of how my parents handled me being "a little differenty". As a result he isn't going to have nearly the same emotional problems I'm still working through.

anonumos fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Apr 23, 2018

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
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Haha hell yeah they should put those up in middle schools and poo poo. :v:

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
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Spinster posted:

You don't have pms. Fine, heres a hug. :glomp:

Yeah that was lovely af and it didn’t have to be but some really good people are alive.

T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVYFW08uPSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEgcH7rhpIc

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
would autistic people make the ultimate soldier?

impervious to the pain of others

will shoot a mother fucker through the eyes three times before he hits the ground due to obsessive training

doesn't actually want to go home because his dad doesn't like him

shoots women and children because they're not able to rationalize a difference between them and combat participants as 'they're all the same normies'

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
The most autistic person I know probably gave me this red title.

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
some soy boy loving playstation UT playing piece of poo poo?

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

i like that posted:

It's supposed to be parents that teach their children basic life skills such as proper hygiene. How does a male teenager not know about deodorant and the need to wear it everyday? Somehow other children can detect their child smells bad enough to ostracize them, but his parents, oh they must both have some pretty serious nasal congestion and are unable to tell! Yeah they can't be neglecting their own child and failing to be around them enough and be a proper parent, it's the children that surely must have something inherently wrong with them. Let's feed them drugs forever this will fix everything goodbye now!!!!! -- literally the medical establishment

Deodorant has literally nothing to do with hygiene. You filthy bitches slap that poo poo on to cover up your lack of hygiene, actually.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

i like that posted:

It's supposed to be parents that teach their children basic life skills such as proper hygiene. How does a male teenager not know about deodorant and the need to wear it everyday? Somehow other children can detect their child smells bad enough to ostracize them, but his parents, oh they must both have some pretty serious nasal congestion and are unable to tell! Yeah they can't be neglecting their own child and failing to be around them enough and be a proper parent, it's the children that surely must have something inherently wrong with them. Let's feed them drugs forever this will fix everything goodbye now!!!!! -- literally the medical establishment

idk dude I didn't ask him

you seem to have a thing going on w/r/t the shortcomings of psychiatric diagnosis itt and I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong (I profess ignorance) but you're coming in pretty hot based on one thirdhand anecdote about deodorant
we're talking about a person, and you don't know him or his family situation or his medical situation

pretty sure someone earlier said autism isn't even treated with drugs? I don't know that for a fact but I don't think I'd leap to the assumption that he's being disingenuously drugged by unscrupulous doctors either
maybe he's not on any kind of medication
maybe he's on exactly the medication he needs
maybe he was in the habit of showering or going swimming when he got home from school so his parents didn't notice he stank because he never stank around them
maybe his parents are weird hippies or from france and don't wear deodorant
maybe he doesn't have parents, maybe he was raised by his grandma and her sense of smell just wasn't what it used to be
maybe I misremembered or exaggerated his account of what happened and it actually only took place over a couple weeks
maybe he chose to misrepresent this story when he was telling it to me to more clearly illustrate his point
maybe it didn't even actually happen
maybe he doesn't exist and I just made up a person to make it seem like I have friends
maybe I'm actually a forest goblin who sneaks into the library at night to browse the internet and I have created a human identity for myself out of bits and pieces of information I scoured from Medium articles

you're taking a lot on assumption. just saiyan

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
at my high school the teachers usually had a can of lynx and would spray down any stinky buggers thus shaming them publicly - they generally would cover their musk properly at home after that to avoid it happening again

that reminds me we also had a real scary maori woman teacher who would scrunch up her face and yell 'eee! whooo dropped their guts!' when someone farted

good times

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002

by VideoGames
Hell Gem

i like that posted:

My brother is non-verbal autistic. He is not capable or reading or writing. He cannot cook or use money or live independently. He needs full-time supervision. A female veterinarian with a genius iq who has her own business and stable, successful career, who is raising happy children in a healthy marriage, can somehow have the same diagnosis.

A JOKE is what the DSM and psychiatry is. These younger psychiatrists in particular don't know their head from their rear end I wouldn't trust them to feed my cat.
This is why random internet people aren't allowed to diagnose. A successful person with a family, career and a doctorate would not be diagnosed. That's the point of the new criteria it really has to cause a significant impairment to daily life and is generally associated with intellectual deficits. With the new criteria if you're just an odd gently caress you're an odd gently caress or if you really want to be diagnosed with something you now have "social communication disorder." The whole point was to prevent what you're talking about. In fact you're actively arguing against something you support. It got changed specifically to prevent your example.

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Jan 21, 2018

by FactsAreUseless
I don't actually have anything against socialists and I'm bi myself but anyone who dresses like naruto in public is a 100% certified rear end burger.

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Nirvikalpa
Aug 20, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Bum the Sad posted:

This is why random internet people aren't allowed to diagnose. A successful person with a family, career and a doctorate would not be diagnosed. That's the point of the new criteria it really has to cause a significant impairment to daily life and is generally associated with intellectual deficits. With the new criteria if you're just an odd gently caress you're an odd gently caress or if you really want to be diagnosed with something you now have "social communication disorder." The whole point was to prevent what you're talking about. In fact you're actively arguing against something you support. It got changed specifically to prevent your example.

Yeah I agree. What's the point of getting diagnoses if you are so successful? Seems like people need an excuse to not be a normie.

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:

Deodorant has literally nothing to do with hygiene. You filthy bitches slap that poo poo on to cover up your lack of hygiene, actually.

Due to the defective Y chromosome males can give off a highly unpleasant, offensive, revolting, and literally SICKENING body odor and thus are required to shower every morning and apply their anti perspirant before they enter the civilized world wrought by the thankless labor of the double chromosomes and minorities who allow them to be 'great' (overrated by any reasonable standard)

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Manly musk.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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Someone has problems and bad things happen to them...? It must be their fault, IT MUST BE THEIR FAULT, OR BAD THINGS COULD HAPPEN TO ME NO MATTER HOW GOOD I AM, IT MUST BE THEIR FAULT

Obsidianheart
Apr 26, 2017

Throwing off the shadow of a better man.
JFC this thread.

Dyna Soar posted:

SA is full of assholes

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib

i like that posted:

Due to the defective Y chromosome males can give off a highly unpleasant, offensive, revolting, and literally SICKENING body odor and thus are required to shower every morning and apply their anti perspirant before they enter the civilized world wrought by the thankless labor of the double chromosomes and minorities who allow them to be 'great' (overrated by any reasonable standard)

don't forget the other curse of the Y chromosome

big ole swinging dicks!!!

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
Tell me about the hu-mons, GBS.

Tell me about the most faulty hu-mon you know.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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the just world fallacy really fucks neurotypicals up

there is no god and if there is he certainly ain't watching your bitch rear end, normie, poo poo's all just a roll of the dice and you could get hit by a truck tomorrow, lose control of your arms and legs, and spend the rest of the life with everyone you thought loved you treating you with silent contempt for not having the dignity to die when you become inconvenient

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Ghost Leviathan posted:

the just world fallacy really fucks neurotypicals up

there is no god and if there is he certainly ain't watching your bitch rear end, normie, poo poo's all just a roll of the dice and you could get hit by a truck tomorrow, lose control of your arms and legs, and spend the rest of the life with everyone you thought loved you treating you with silent contempt for not having the dignity to die when you become inconvenient

Just world is true and real, it just works like Quantum Suicide.

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
hey pick it's really bad form to start a bangin' thread and then abandon it when the content gets too hot to handle, don't light the fire if you can't handle the heat lady!!!

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Bum the Sad posted:

This is why random internet people aren't allowed to diagnose. A successful person with a family, career and a doctorate would not be diagnosed. That's the point of the new criteria it really has to cause a significant impairment to daily life and is generally associated with intellectual deficits. With the new criteria if you're just an odd gently caress you're an odd gently caress or if you really want to be diagnosed with something you now have "social communication disorder." The whole point was to prevent what you're talking about. In fact you're actively arguing against something you support. It got changed specifically to prevent your example.

I gave an extreme example to show how unhelpful this 'spectrum' stuff is when the difference is extreme to this extent. There are high functioning people who struggle with wrong diagnoses and thus do not get to be 'successful' all bc they are mislabelled and mismedicated in ways that don't address the underlying problem (sensory processing)

The DSM is a major flop

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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i like that posted:

I gave an extreme example to show how unhelpful this 'spectrum' stuff is when the difference is extreme to this extent. There are high functioning people who struggle with wrong diagnoses and thus do not get to be 'successful' all bc they are mislabelled and mismedicated in ways that don't address the underlying problem (sensory processing)

The DSM is a major flop

People already don't want to pay attention to what the doctor says and teach their kid to wear deodorant, they just want pills to fix everything so they can go back to drinking and watching their stories

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

BloodRed posted:

some soy boy loving playstation UT playing piece of poo poo?

Who even knows? I hope they got at least one good erection out of it.

Sorryformybadjokes
Apr 21, 2004

I identify as a simian who pronounces the 'silent' letters in words.
Fallen Rib
"The prevalence of autism continues to increase across the United States, regardless of socioeconomic class, according to a new study. Overall, black and Hispanic children are less likely than their white peers to have an autism diagnosis."

lol

https://spectrumnews.org/news/race-class-contribute-disparities-autism-diagnoses/

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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Doctors are racist AF, the same way a black person in pain is just whining and wanting drugs, a black or brown child is just being difficult and probably a crack baby

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Doctors are racist AF, the same way a black person in pain is just whining and wanting drugs, a black or brown child is just being difficult and probably a crack baby

Then, they diagnose the whites with autism, celiac's, and a nut allergy to boot.

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

i like that posted:

Due to the defective Y chromosome males can give off a highly unpleasant, offensive, revolting, and literally SICKENING body odor and thus are required to shower every morning and apply their anti perspirant before they enter the civilized world wrought by the thankless labor of the double chromosomes and minorities who allow them to be 'great' (overrated by any reasonable standard)

Actually that is pheremones so you can know who you should mate with so that your children have the best disease resistance. Apparently, female hormonal birth control actually flips that so that you become attracted to people with the same genetic resistances. QED: Birth control and deodorant is driving actual genetic degeneracy in the Western world.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/6/l_016_08.html

Stink hard. The future of the human race depends on it.

Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Apr 24, 2018

Mermaid Autopsy
Jun 9, 2001

I'm still not sure if this thread is really about daddy issues, getting friendzoned by an autist, self-effacement, or merely mocking the mentally ill, despite this being at least the third iteration of the same thread

guessing it's yes to all of it

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:

I'm still not sure if this thread is really about daddy issues, getting friendzoned by an autist, self-effacement, or merely mocking the mentally ill, despite this being at least the third iteration of the same thread

guessing it's yes to all of it

Don't forget the occasional schizophrenic rant

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Mermaid Autopsy posted:

I'm still not sure if this thread is really about daddy issues, getting friendzoned by an autist, self-effacement, or merely mocking the mentally ill, despite this being at least the third iteration of the same thread

guessing it's yes to all of it
It's about the eye gunk that you pull out of your eye every morning like a loose thread from a sweater.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Mermaid Autopsy posted:

I'm still not sure if this thread is really about daddy issues, getting friendzoned by an autist, self-effacement, or merely mocking the mentally ill, despite this being at least the third iteration of the same thread

guessing it's yes to all of it

I am immensely talented and can do all these things

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Manspreading through extreme odor

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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

The Male Stench

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