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I'm sure I'm gonna get it but haven't worked out the math if I'll join the upgrade plan or just buy it outright. If all the rumors about the supply shortage are right if I'm lucky I'll get it before 2018
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arbybaconator posted:One of the default wallpapers in the iOS11 GM is a plain black wallpaper. Rageaholic Monkey posted:It only took them how many years? IOS4 came out in 2010 so it's been 7 years.
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Sep 12, 2017 08:43
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It's really strange that the leaks in the gold master have tutorial videos on how to get to the home screen using the X swipe gestures, but are on current hardware (or an 8).
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So the iPhone XXX is gonna be smaller than the 7s+ (8+) huh. Maybe l skip it and get the +. I like my phablet. Edit: wait I’m dumb. With no bezel and poo poo the screen size will be about the same huh. Bum the Sad fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Sep 12, 2017 09:23
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Bum the Sad posted:So the iPhone XXX is gonna be smaller than the 7s+ (8+) huh. Maybe l skip it and get the +. I like my phablet. I think I read 5.8" somewhere. That's one thing I'd welcome about a new iPhone -- big screen but not big footprint. I've not come to grips (there it is!) with the 7+ since jumping up to a plus model. The non-plus was just the right size and weight for one of my hands.
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Sep 12, 2017 09:36
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My gut reaction is to avoid buying an iPhoneX (even if I had been planning to upgrade this soon, which I'm not) simply because there are so many new technologies at play that I'd want to wait a generation for Apple to iron the kinks out.
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Sep 12, 2017 09:37
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iPhone XXXTentacion The iPhone is a woman beater. Boycott Apple.
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Sep 12, 2017 09:48
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Have or will series 2 watches go on sale? Wouldn't mind picking one up at a discounted price.
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Sep 12, 2017 13:11
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Housh posted:Have or will series 2 watches go on sale? Wouldn't mind picking one up at a discounted price. If I was a betting man (I am); I would say a $100 price drop across the board on the S2's (Sport) and a discontinuation of the S1 as well as any non-Sport S2. To play devil's advocate, Apple may just charge $60-80 more for the S3 than the S2 because of LTE (looking at you iPad's) and keep the S2 price the same.
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Sep 12, 2017 13:18
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Housh posted:Have or will series 2 watches go on sale? Wouldn't mind picking one up at a discounted price. Check the refurb store which has S2 Watches for sale.
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Sep 12, 2017 13:39
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So what is the advantage of OLED vs LCD?
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Sep 12, 2017 14:00
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There's a few advantages. OLED has better contrast and color reproduction while using less energy and allowing for a thinner display. The disadvantages to OLED are that they can be more prone to burn-in and may have shorter lifespans than LCDs. I wouldn't expect to see drastically better battery life in the iPhone X given that they're expanding the screen.
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Sep 12, 2017 14:05
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Housh posted:Have or will series 2 watches go on sale? Wouldn't mind picking one up at a discounted price. I'm mulling over selling mine (space grey sport) which has AppleCare on it. Would do a replacement before sale since it has a chip on the glass. Would have one more AC claim available for another year. Any idea on what a brand new s2 with AC would go for?
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Rubiks Pubes posted:So what is the advantage of OLED vs LCD? The reason OLED has better contrast is the lack of a backlight. Each pixel produces its own light, so you could turn on just the pixels that need to display something and leave the rest of the screen literally unpowered. This makes for an insanely crisp display. The one thing I loved about the Pixel was the "just checking the time" screen effect. Just the time and date would appear in stark white. It almost looked printed. Another sweet android visual that I think took advantage of OLED is a desaturation effect when the screen goes to sleep. It didn't just turn off the screen, it would desaturated to greyscale first and then shut off. It was really cool looking without backlight bleed to ruin it.
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Sep 12, 2017 14:23
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Non-technical iPhone users have always been wowed by my AMOLED-screened Android devices screens...generally people don't care a whole lot about color accuracy, they care about pop, whiz, bang. It will be interesting to see how Apple calibrates the display.
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Bum the Sad posted:So the iPhone XXX is gonna be smaller than the 7s+ (8+) huh. Maybe l skip it and get the +. I like my phablet. The screen is looking to be the same width as a 6+/6S+/7+, but taller and without the bezels.
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Palladium posted:I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who thinks the very rarity and price of the iPhone X will ironically make demand shoot through the stratosphere. I agree that the price is definitely going to be a selling feature (in the US at least). The allure of a $1,000 phone is not even really offset by the fact that you are shelling out 4 figures on a cellphone, since most US customers finance their phones, and $10 more per month is nothing. In millennial terms is not even a single Avocado Toast + tax and tip. I expect the hunt for the iPhone X will last until March or April. Apple Stores are going to need to hire people whose only job will be answering calls to tell people that they don't know when the next shipment of phones will arrive. I could also see this backfiring slightly where people don't settle for the 8/8+, but wait so long that their eyes turn toward next year's model.
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Sep 12, 2017 14:57
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Financing your phone makes a fuckload of sense though, since it's mostly just 0% APR for 2 years, yeah? If you invest at all - or have a savings account even - paying 0% interest on something you'd buy anyway is great, you'll save 1-2% just on inflation, not to mention whatever gains you could see from having that money in the market instead of spent on day 1. I wish we could finance everything at 0%. I bought my 6S outright and with a dock and case it ended up costing like 1100 CAD! I don't spend that much in one day on anything ...
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Sep 12, 2017 14:59
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I spent 1500 AUD on my 6S plus, we're definitely used to shelling out 4 figures for shiny new toys.
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The Moto X was the first phone to use that selective pixel lock screen option to try and reduce battery power. It was a neat trick that did nothing to actually reduce battery consumption because the phone had a crummy cpu and a tiny battery and horrible OS. If all you did was keep it on its lock screen then yes. It was great. The moment you used the screen, you were watching battery life drain percentage points every minute. It will be really interesting to see what Apple and it's optimized OS can do with something like that. It probably wouldn't make much of a difference compared to other tricks, like shutting down cores.
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Pivo posted:Financing your phone makes a fuckload of sense though, since it's mostly just 0% APR for 2 years, yeah? If you invest at all - or have a savings account even - paying 0% interest on something you'd buy anyway is great, you'll save 1-2% just on inflation, not to mention whatever gains you could see from having that money in the market instead of spent on day 1. I wish we could finance everything at 0%. Yeah I always use 0% financing plans with my CC for expensive purchases, on top of it I also earn cashbacks in the process. Paying 100% cash upfront is dumb when that option exists.
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TyrantWD posted:I agree that the price is definitely going to be a selling feature (in the US at least). The allure of a $1,000 phone is not even really offset by the fact that you are shelling out 4 figures on a cellphone, since most US customers finance their phones, and $10 more per month is nothing. In millennial terms is not even a single Avocado Toast + tax and tip. I'm still betting it's full price only to avoid this very problem.
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Sep 12, 2017 15:44
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Pivo posted:Financing your phone makes a fuckload of sense though, since it's mostly just 0% APR for 2 years, yeah? If you invest at all - or have a savings account even - paying 0% interest on something you'd buy anyway is great, you'll save 1-2% just on inflation, not to mention whatever gains you could see from having that money in the market instead of spent on day 1. I wish we could finance everything at 0%. I really don't understand why most people don't just use the Apple payment or carrier payment plans. It's basically a 0% finance over 2 years for a phone that lets you upgrade every year by paying the sales tax on the new phone. Like if you're going to upgrade every year it makes all the sense in the world and if you're on 2 years it's still better than shoving all that money up front for something that you're ultimately just going to replace. People get oddly obsessed over owning something outright when effectively renting it can be better in the right situation. Also $1k as a base isn't really an issue for most people, my 7+ 128GB is already like $950, so another $50 is fine (I could easily live with 64GB if that's the rumored base storage). triple sulk posted:I'm still betting it's full price only to avoid this very problem. Ouhei fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Ouhei posted:I really don't understand why most people don't just use the Apple payment or carrier payment plans. It's basically a 0% finance over 2 years for a phone that lets you upgrade every year by paying the sales tax on the new phone. Like if you're going to upgrade every year it makes all the sense in the world and if you're on 2 years it's still better than shoving all that money up front for something that you're ultimately just going to replace. Not only that, but the 50% of original purchase price Apple is giving you for your trade phone is very competitive to the larger used device buyers.
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I don't do the upgrade plan because I'm not sure I want to upgrade every 2 years, I kept my 5 for 3 years and I'll keep my 6S if the X is too supply constrained / too expensive / can't be financed through my carrier / has technical problems. Also I usually come out ahead by selling my previous phone rather than just trading in for a new one, if you take good care of it and it's a high end model unlocked you can get more than 50% of original on eBay quite readily.
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I bought two iPhone 5c's upfront and felt so good about owning my own phones and after 2 years they were just as worthless as if I had financed them. I think it works if you're the type of person whose an expert at flipping phones. It's pointless for everyone else. Also, can't you bundle Applecare+ in there too?
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Sep 12, 2017 16:15
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The upgrade plan doesn't require you to update though. After two years the phone is yours free and clear. Apple can buy the old one from you, not sure how competitive their prices are but if you hand them a good condition iphone they'll give some trade-in credit.
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Sep 12, 2017 16:16
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Ouhei posted:I really don't understand why most people don't just use the Apple payment or carrier payment plans. It's basically a 0% finance over 2 years for a phone that lets you upgrade every year by paying the sales tax on the new phone. Like if you're going to upgrade every year it makes all the sense in the world and if you're on 2 years it's still better than shoving all that money up front for something that you're ultimately just going to replace. The carrier payment plans lock you into the carrier so you lose the freedom to move around without paying your way out in some way, in most cases. Apple's program is not perfect, either. I would normally agree about the cash up front thing, but this is a one-off "anniversary" model testing new tech with supplies that are supposedly extraordinarily limited. They're going to sell whatever supply they have without question, so in this case I think it doesn't matter.
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xzzy posted:The upgrade plan doesn't require you to update though. After two years the phone is yours free and clear. Oh. Well then that's just 0% financing, which I am definitely a proponent of. If you are financially stable at all and your employment/life is a going concern, turning down 0% financing is just stupid. I didn't know you get to keep the thing, I thought you had to trade it in.
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triple sulk posted:The carrier payment plans lock you into the carrier so you lose the freedom to move around without paying your way out in some way, in most cases. Apple's program is not perfect, either. At least here in Canada, the cancellation fee is literally just what you owe on the phone (plus a stupid ~$50 charge for unlocking, if it's locked).
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I was laid off after 14 years and my 5s is nearly dead. Cracked screen and bad graphics banding. Im limping on a Galaxy S5 someone gave me that doesn't have LTE capability, so without wifi, its just a phone out and about. Feels bad man. Cant wait to get whatever the next thing is as soon as I am re-employed.
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The main issue with Apple's program is it requires you to deal with citizenone.
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triple sulk posted:The carrier payment plans lock you into the carrier so you lose the freedom to move around without paying your way out in some way, in most cases. Apple's program is not perfect, either. At that point though, you just pay what's left on the phone, so it's the same as if you had just bought it outright. There's no cancellation fee or back interest or anything, you just delayed payment on the device. And do people really change services that often? I've been using AT&T for over 10 years now and haven't felt the need to switch carriers (aside from a brief period where I really wanted the Moto Droid Z Force that was Verizon exclusive). In my case though, it may be because only Verizon & AT&T get a halfway decent signal where I live.
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Pivo posted:At least here in Canada, the cancellation fee is literally just what you owe on the phone (plus a stupid ~$50 charge for unlocking, if it's locked). That's what it is here, too. Minus the charge.
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I own a 6 with only one big flaw: I can't open the SIM tray because I didn't have a paper clip so I tried jamming the metal piece of a twist tie in there, which seems to have hosed it up completely and now it won't come out. I'd like to sell this thing but I'm guessing if the SIM won't come out that I won't get poo poo for it. Does anyone know if the Apple Store will fix this gratis or how much it will cost me? If it's too much I might as well take trade in value instead.
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MrBigglesworth posted:I was laid off after 14 years and my 5s is nearly dead. Cracked screen and bad graphics banding. Im limping on a Galaxy S5 someone gave me that doesn't have LTE capability, so without wifi, its just a phone out and about. Feels bad man. Hello laid off after 14 years buddy, I hope your hunt goes better than mine has.
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triple sulk posted:I would normally agree about the cash up front thing, but this is a one-off "anniversary" model testing new tech with supplies that are supposedly extraordinarily limited. They're going to sell whatever supply they have without question, so in this case I think it doesn't matter. I was on the Apple store website just now and you can check your iPhone upgrade program eligibility and after confirming I was eligible for an upgrade it gave me the (grayed out) options of either an 8 or an X. How much storage are y'all using on your phone and for what? I think the 64gb should be plenty. Don't think it's worth paying another $150 for 256gb. Oh I missed how every new phones sizing options are 64 or 256 at the same price jump. Eeesh manwithoutskin fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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There's some serious legalese word play in Apple saying, "The most durable glass ever in a smartphone, front and back." Doesn't Motorola have a shatterproof screen? But that's only on the front so...yes, most durable glass ever...front and back.
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64 vs 256 solely depends on how many pictures+video+mp3's you store. So really only you can answer that.
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TVs Ian posted:At that point though, you just pay what's left on the phone, so it's the same as if you had just bought it outright. There's no cancellation fee or back interest or anything, you just delayed payment on the device. I’ve travelled internationally a decent amount in the last few years and a locked phone prevents you from buying a local SIM. And AT&T’s international plan suuuuuucks. $40 for 200MB. I’ve been so tempted to just pay my phone off for that reason alone. You can do a non-upgrade program payment plan through Apple that gives you an unlocked phone that’s the same price as the carrier financing. So I’m totally doing that next time.
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