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Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Leperflesh posted:

Still disrupted, but the fatigue malus is gone now too. How long does it take for them to get fully organized? Also, is your chunking force prepared - you've had them planning this attack for a month or so? We never get much view into the preparation part of the game.

I'm also curious about air battle in china. I don't think we've seen many (any?) air combat?

No longer fatigued, but the supply malus is back. And there's still no leader bonus!

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Another day of picking off ships near the American Fortress.







Wait! A Chinese force that doesn't automatically flee before my forces? This is weird.



Another day, another few thousand casualties.







A quiet day. I wonder if anything interesting is happening out there?



Well, we sunk another ship.



And gained another Escort carrier.



Oh yes, we also marched into a completely empty Rangoon. That may be something of note.

It looks like the Allies used up all their troops defending Singapore.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Grey Hunter posted:

It looks like the Allies used up all their troops defending Singapore.

More likely pulled farther back up to Chittagong or something.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The ships fled though, unless they scuttled them. The Unyo is... slow and expensive. Useful for shuttling fighters around I suppose.

mcbagpipes
Apr 17, 2010
Is there any chance of getting you to post some of your game save files so those of us with a copy of the game can live vicariously through your mishaps and success?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Grey Hunter posted:



Oh yes, we also marched into a completely empty Rangoon. That may be something of note.

It looks like the Allies used up all their troops defending Singapore.

:catstare:

Maybe their doomstack princess is in another castle?

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009

MrYenko posted:

:catstare:

Maybe their doomstack princess is in another castle?
Has anyone checked up on the Tokyo Bay Fortress recently? :ohdear:

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Annnnd chung king is back to fatigued, disrupted, and unsupplied.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.

AceRimmer posted:

Has anyone checked up on the Tokyo Bay Fortress recently? :ohdear:

The Chittagong Citadel?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Serpentis posted:

The Chittagong Citadel?

Chittadel, please.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

27 aircraft storage capacity, 21 knots max speed.

So, more like a glorified and really lovely aircraft tender than a true CVE.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
No, that's pretty good for an escort carrier. I think most of the American built ones are slower and smaller.

They just get dozens of them and Japan gets a handful.

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Where is the kido butai right now, anyway?

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.

Drone posted:

Chittadel, please.

Good shout.

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Where is the kido butai right now, anyway?

If memory serves, still on their way back from their last big sortie after they laid over in some port in the DEI that wasn't big enough to repair or resupply all of them in a sensible timeframe.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Triggerhappypilot posted:

Where is the kido butai right now, anyway?

Supporting the Rangoon invasion

There are no allied ships, so no need to mention them.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
So, a few things.

First, Grey might want to have Kido Butai pay a visit to Colombo on Ceylon/Sri Lanka, since IIRC it has the largest shipyard available to the Allies between Capetown and the DEI. Survivors from the fighting around Java are likely to go there for repairs, especially those two R-class battleships (who can't be repaired in a smaller port).

Second, Chengtu also needs to be taken to cut off the unlimited Chinese reinforcement spawning, because the spawn point relocates there if it's still Chinese-owned while Chungking isn't.

Third, for the guy bringing up the railroads, the magic railroad from Singapore to Korea is a known thing, although apparently getting the game's Lovecraftian nightmare of a supply system to pull oil and fuel all the way up it is a bitch and a half. India, however, is separated from Burma by a break in the coast road just south of Arakan, so getting supply to draw into or out of the subcontinent will always be a hassle.

On the other hand, the fact that it's possible to support a land offensive over the Kokoda Trail or through the jungles to Imphal is one of those reminders that the supply system is borked both ways.

Oh yeah, one other thing I'm wondering: is Grey using his floatplanes and Glen-carrying subs to scout? Especially in the deep South Pacific? That might give him a shot at finding the carriers, or supply convoys to Australia. For the West Coast, maybe use sacrificial minisubs to scout the harbors?

EDIT: Almost forgot to say this, but (even if it's belated), congrats on the reinforcement to the Hunter household! Just try not to sink his lucky ship with your ASW patrols, seeing as how it's named after him and all.

The Sandman fucked around with this message at 06:42 on May 31, 2016

two_step
Sep 2, 2011
Time for a Hawaii time update?

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We pick off another ship - this one was carrying fuel.







We run off a sub. Hopefully we finished it off.



I need to sort some escorts for these attacks.







We continue to hold here.







Our troops occupy Rangoon without loss, and we see the points swing by 1800 in our favour. We destroy several Wildcat air frames on the ground.



The bastards! They destroyed the HDML's! Now our troops will need to watch our propaganda in standard definition!

whitewhale
Feb 21, 2013

Grey Hunter posted:





We pick off another ship - this one was carrying fuel.




A surface attack within spitting distance of Pearl? Ballsy...

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



You're holding at Chungking when you look only at casualty rates, but your AV just keeps sliding farther and farther down while Allied AV is holding much more steady. This is bad.

Edit: thankfully it looks like you've got reinforcements in the next hex over that are heading in, hopefully they'll be there soon (and with proper leadership).

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Harbour Defence Motor Launches. Twelve crew, a few 20mm cannon, some depth charges. 56 tonnes of copper plated wood. Ocean going and capable of being fit with sails for long journeys.

Actually pretty capable little boats, a serious loss to the allied fleet.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

goatface posted:

Harbour Defence Motor Launches. Twelve crew, a few 20mm cannon, some depth charges. 56 tonnes of copper plated wood. Ocean going and capable of being fit with sails for long journeys.

Actually pretty capable little boats, a serious loss to the allied fleet.

So what you are saying is defiantly no Blueray then?

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

Grey Hunter posted:

So what you are saying is defiantly no Blueray then?

Blueray ought to be an American sub name.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Grey Hunter posted:

So what you are saying is defiantly no Blueray then?

You'd be lucky to get 240p phone video, shot in portrait.

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice

Drone posted:

You're holding at Chungking when you look only at casualty rates, but your AV just keeps sliding farther and farther down while Allied AV is holding much more steady. This is bad.

Edit: thankfully it looks like you've got reinforcements in the next hex over that are heading in, hopefully they'll be there soon (and with proper leadership).

Looks like it's the other way around: Chinese AV and adjusted AV are dropping while Japanese is holding steady. Allies are now 1:4 adjusted AV.

ro5s
Dec 27, 2012

A happy little mouse!

Grey Hunter posted:

So what you are saying is defiantly no Blueray then?

Give me HD-DVD or give me death! :argh:

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Disaster! A couple of British cruisers slip past the defensive ships and savage a troop convoy.



They are engaged by the battleships, but its not soon enough to save six thousand lives. We get a small measure of revenge in sinking the Devonshire.



We avoid the Hurricanes and hit Sorebanjo.



I'm coming to the conclusion that our fighter pilots suck.



We launch another invasion.







These guys are well and truly cut off now. Their survival seems unlikely. We have three to one odds and still get taken apart.







We continue to see heavy fighting.







That's not how you want to start a month!



that's a lot of ships lost – but probability still less men than if I had fought for Rangoon.






Okay, this is getting interesting – the Allied score is now lower than mine was, but my score is nowhere near the AI score. For some reason Rangoon is not showing on this graph, so things are better than this!



We need to take a load more of the smaller bases.



Again, the fall of Rangoon is not shown here.



Its been a bad month for plane losses.



Most of them are from air to air combat.



The top pilots list hasn't changed much.



This is still my best graph, we are really killing them on the ground.



You know, I may have been a little wasteful with my ships last time around.....



This shows that we are at least one major fleet engagement behind on the last war.



Pearl Harbor sucked, and now its not even counting the Prince of Wales!



We are expanding nicely. With Rangoon undefended, I shall push north into India I think.

I also have to decide if I wish to force an engagement at Midway – what do you think?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Holy poo poo, that's a savaging. The Devonshires' 8" was just too much for those liners.

Probably going to lose more of those tomorrow.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Before engaging Midway, Grey, what's the status of your campaign in the Aleutians? Have you taken Dutch Harbor yet?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Goddamn. Did that troop convoy have no escorts besides a DD?

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009

Saint Celestine posted:

Goddamn. Did that troop convoy have no escorts besides a DD?
Looks like the BB/DD posse was there too, the allied ships just slipped past everything but a single destroyer.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

AceRimmer posted:

Looks like the BB/DD posse was there too, the allied ships just slipped past everything but a single destroyer.

That task force deserves a medal.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
Have the Yamashiro's captain commit seppuku at once. Such a magnificent ship should not have her name sullied by an incompetent wretch like him.

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Grey Hunter posted:



I'm coming to the conclusion that our fighter pilots suck.

Are those raids still going in at 33k?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
I think its nice of Grey to show the thread why you should have more than 1 direct escort for large invasion fleets.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

uPen posted:

Are those raids still going in at 33k?



Pilots who need oxygen to be effective suck, plain and simply.

Slippery42
Nov 10, 2011

Jobbo_Fett posted:

I think its nice of Grey to show the thread why you should have more than 1 direct escort for large invasion fleets.

Believe it or not, this is more or less the right way to play. Ships in a TF move as fast as their slowest member, and someone found that this carries over to combat in the game engine. This would mean your 34 knot destroyers only make 10 knots, even when trying to fend off enemy ships trying to pick off your slow transports. From what I understand, the smart move is to only throw a handful of DDs in transport TFs just to ward off submarines who would otherwise attack on the surface, and then you'd have your actual escorts in a separate surface combat TF set to follow the transports at a range of 0 hexes. In an ideal world, they'd swoop in to screen the transports from enemies at full effectiveness, so I have no idea what actually went wrong here, whether it was some other quirk of the interface, lack of radar, or just a poor roll of the dice.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I don't understand how they did it. It was daytime, they were there long enough to fire a lot of ordnance, and the BBs couldn't even get a bead on them? Their big guns outrange the best of the Devonshire by kilometres. How loving far away from this convoy they were protecting were they?

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

goatface posted:

I don't understand how they did it. It was daytime, they were there long enough to fire a lot of ordnance, and the BBs couldn't even get a bead on them? Their big guns outrange the best of the Devonshire by kilometres. How loving far away from this convoy they were protecting were they?

Is it possible GH forgot to set reaction range on the following TF to zero? They may have reacted away from the transport TF mid-turn in an effort to intercept the Allied cruiser TF or something else that they had seen or thought they'd seen. Especially if the commander of the surface combat TF had a high aggressiveness stat, this could have been the culprit.

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Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010

gohuskies posted:

Is it possible GH forgot to set reaction range on the following TF to zero? They may have reacted away from the transport TF mid-turn in an effort to intercept the Allied cruiser TF or something else that they had seen or thought they'd seen. Especially if the commander of the surface combat TF had a high aggressiveness stat, this could have been the culprit.

So this was Cape Egano and Taffy 5, except the fox got among the chickens this time. Ouch.

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