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Beyond how nice and depressing this portion of the story is, it is interesting to note how diametrically opposed Maria is to Ange in the last update: While Ange breaks to her abuse and comes to the conclusion that there is no Magic and only humans can help her, Maria recedes into her fantasy and eschews humans all together. But that's only in theory, a theory borne largely when in the past, Maria and Kid Ange had a fight; in practice, Maria is just as dependent on the kindness of strangers that Ange is, and had a whole community looking out for her beyond her imaginary friends. The store owners that looked after her, the strangers that gave her advice... they all saw this girl out alone in the world, and even though apparently Rosa and Maria had this entire scheme going of visiting different shops and not talking to police to cover up Rosa's staggering ineptitude as a parent, the entire purpose of this update seems to be a declaration that living without people is not possible. To pretend a single child alone isn't really alone is denying reality, because a kid, in the end is still a kid- they can't be adults no matter how much you want. And your imaginary friends might make you feel nice, but they can't help you eat or find a lost key. And so we're left on the same tenterhooks Maria is, awaiting next episode... and having seen the future of this tragic relationship, none of us are in any doubt of what will happen, merely of how big the fallout's going to be. Here comes the Bad Witch.
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Just because it made me do a double-take:ProfessorProf posted:
We seem to have some interaction between the future and past here, but we don't really. ProfessorProf posted:
This here is a flashback (inside a flashback, inside a dream world, inside a flashforward, good grief) to a time when the real Maria and the real Ange were actually playing as little children, and Ange's mom told her stuffed animals aren't really real. The stuff in the current update happened after that. (That's my take on it, anyway.) oath2order posted:It was about midway though this update that I decided no, I didn't really need to read this part for a third time. oath2order posted:Raise your hand if you want the next update to be mostly about Battler hitting on his cousins again. loving cosigned.
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"Uuu--!! Stop iit!! Don't burn Sakutaro with the magic-resisting toxin!! Don't bully him!! Don't insult him! Don't deny him!!"
"Sakutaro!! Sakutaro-!!! You aren't a stuffed animal, you aren't a stuffed animal, you're a friend!! Uuu--!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!"
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idonotlikepeas posted:This here is a flashback (inside a flashback, inside a dream world, inside a flashforward, good grief) to a time when the real Maria and the real Ange were actually playing as little children, and Ange's mom told her stuffed animals aren't really real. The stuff in the current update happened after that. (That's my take on it, anyway.) Seems about right. I like how this Ange & Maria stuff is structured. The themes and the story are developed "linearly" and the order of events is kind of jumbled up based on that.
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So I've just remember another thing that might be about to go pear-shaped: remember how back at the family conference Rosa's reason for joining her siblings little get-rich-quick scheme was that she signed on something and presumably needed the money to pay it off? Well, it hasn't been alluded to in any way in the flashbacks yet, so it's probably still coming. I'm just throwing it in for the people who were worried that the next updates weren't going to have enough sunshine and rainbows it them. A propos, can someone jog my memory on that particular point? Was it ever elaborated on what exactly she signed and in what circumstances? I seem to vaguely recall a man being mentionned to have something to do with it (and heeeey, guess what Rosa was doing on her little vacation), but can't for the life of me remember where that mention was. Aumanor fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Aumanor posted:So I've just remember another thing that might be about to go pear-shaped: remember how back at the family conference Rosa's reason for joining her siblings little get-rich-quick scheme was that she signed on something and presumably needed the money to pay it off? Well, it hasn't been alluded to in any way in the flashbacks yet, so it's probably still coming. I'm just throwing it in for the people who were worried that the next updates weren't going to have enough sunshine and rainbows it them. As a refresher: the loans she cosigned was with the man who impregnated her, and by the time she discovered she was pregnant, the man had already left the country with the loan money and changed his name, leaving her holding the bag and with a baby. Which may also explain Rosa's issues with Maria, because even if Maria looks like she takes mostly after Rosa, Rosa's going to be reminded of the man who conned her and broke her heart looking at her daughter. Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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"Why can't you stop that uu-uu-!! It's because you're like this that you can't make friends!! It's because you are like this that Papa's business trip doesn't end!! It's because you are like this that I...!!"
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I grew up with a loving family, but Maria's story combined with Fortitude almost made me start crying for a fictional little girl. I can't imagine how people who grew up in abusive homes must feel when reading this.
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I genuinely teared up in the last update. This is so incredibly bleak. It's only going to get worse, isn't it?Robindaybird posted:Which may also explain Rosa's issues with Maria, because even if Maria looks like she takes mostly after Rosa, Rosa's going to be reminded of the man who conned her and broke her heart looking at her daughter. This seems like a good read of the psychology. It doesn't excuse anything though. It just makes it all even more tragic, if that's possible. You can sympathise with Rosa's situation, but it doesn't change the fact that what she's doing is pretty much unforgivable. CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Yeah, it's one of the many contributing factors, you can sympathize with her feelings, but still be loving appalled by her actions as I am.
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ProfessorProf posted:She always methodically put it in the same pocket. So there was no way she had put it in another pocket, but she searched her whole body just in case. Unsurprisingly, it wasn't there. Of course it never gets explicitly spelled out or anything, but if Maria has autism of some sort then from what I can remember this part is one of the most specific hints towards it you'll get. She's more upset with the fact that the key isn't where it's supposed to be than that she lost it. Although there was also that part, I think it was in EP3, where she wakes up and gets upset because she doesn't know where Rosa is rather than because she misses her or something.
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Lycaeon posted:Nope. No. I didn't think it would be possible to top the misery of the last update but now it's happening. I don't know, this update seemed to focus a lot on how there's plenty of nice people out in the world who wanted to help Maria when they realized how messed up her situation was. Kinzo's rear end in a top hat parenting just got dunked on.
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avoraciopoctules posted:I don't know, this update seemed to focus a lot on how there's plenty of nice people out in the world who wanted to help Maria when they realized how messed up her situation was. Kinzo's rear end in a top hat parenting just got dunked on. I've suffered...a disturbingly similar incident in my childhood that this update brought back unwelcome memories of.
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It's strange for me, as a parent of autistic children. It's just so far from anything I could imagine doing. I mean, this is a fictional example, but this kind of thing happens in the real world, too. It's one thing to work through the puzzle of psychology and figure out how it would happen, it's just so foreign from my experience that it's hard to understand it emotionally. Edit: just to be clear, I'm not claiming to be perfect; I've certainly made mistakes as a parent. But making sure that my kids are okay and taken care of, particularly the special needs ones, constitutes such an enormous percentage of my time, energy, and attention that I can't imagine just not doing it. idonotlikepeas fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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 BGM: Mystic Forest Maria was told to go to her room, but on her way back from the bathroom, she hid by the entrance to the living room and listened in on the exchange. The person who had come to visit... was the female district welfare officer who had asked Maria various questions on that other day.   "But in that case, Miss, if the child is so delicate, why leave her home all alone? Shouldn't a mother be together with her child?" "I am together with her as much as I should be!! I don't need to take instructions from you for something like that...!!" "Oh, really? She's very well known in this area. They say your daughter frequently goes out at night to buy things and eat. Everyone was worried and looking out for her." "How do you know that was my child?!! There's got to be plenty of children around this town, right?!! Don't just suddenly decide that it's my Maria!! Kids sometimes walk around outside at night, right?! How can you prove that they were all my child?!" "It's well-known around the shopping center... that a girl holding a lion stuffed animal often stops by to eat dinner and buy things. Everyone treated Maria-chan with care out of concern for her. Sometimes, people even escorted her home, thinking the night roads might be dangerous, you see?" "Y-You can find lion stuffed animals anywhere!! It was none of their business, escorting her home!! Are they thinking of kidnapping Maria?! Don't bother her!! Maria is my child. I am raising her! I have no intention of putting her in some strange institution!! Stop your needless meddling!!"  "...It's okay. I'm the one in trouble... It has nothing to do with you, Sakutaro..."Maria hugged Sakutaro, continuing to watch her mother fearfully...  "But I'm a single mother, so I have to work! I may not look it, but I'm a president of a company, and I bear responsibility for my employees' well-being!! I'm busy with my work all year round, so there's no time for me to rest!!" "Reeally? But you've been on vacation these last three days, haven't you?" "I-I have not been on vacation! I've stayed at my company all night, working!! There's a mountain of matters to be taken care of that the other unreliable employees can't handle!!" "Why are you lying like that? Someone from your company said that you were taking a three-day vacation, you see? You went to Hokkaido with your boyfriend, right? Leaving your daughter by herself for three whole days...!" "I-I don't know anything about this boyfriend I don't know anything about Hokkaido!!! Where are you getting this nonsense?! Why, why?! Do you have any proof?! What the hell, don't just start butting in on someone else's family matters!! I love Maria I have my own way of loving her so just keep your mouth shut!! I didn't go on a vacation I was just working the whole time!! I was trying to finish things up at work with all my strength, all my strength because I wanted to see Maria as soon as I could!! I stayed at the company the whole whole whole whole, whole whole whole whole time!!" Rosa raged, her hair flying wildly. A teacup was knocked over from the force of her standing up, but far louder than that was the sound of her beating the table with both hands. When faced with this rage that could accurately be described as wide-eyed derangement, the district welfare officer couldn't help but be taken aback. ...And the same went for Maria, who was secretly watching this from the hallway. She had already seen her mother in a rage several times before this. But she had never seen her this crazed with anger.   Video: The AbyssBGM: Fortitude It was some other evil being that was possessing her mother's body... And then, she herself was discovered by the evil being. Maria knew that she was being reflected in the evil being's eyes. Her mind went blank, and she felt as though her field of vision was racing off into the distance... After fiercely closing in on Maria, Rosa mercilessly slapped her on her small shoulders... and dropped her gaze towards the stuffed animal Maria was holding, Sakutaro.   '...U-Uryu... I-It isn't Maria's fault... I told her to take me...' "Th-That's not true...! I brought Sakutaro on my own because I was lonely...! So Mama, it isn't Sakutaro's fault...!!" 'Uryu, Maria...' "It's not Sakutaro's fault!! It's not Sakutaro's fault!!"Instead of Maria, the brunt of Rosa's anger was aimed at the lion stuffed animal Maria was holding. A girl went shopping in the middle of the night, always clutching a lion stuffed animal. Because of that, she had become well known in the shopping center...  "Why?! Why, why?! Why can't you follow Mama's ruuuuuuules?!!"With every single word, she stamped her heel and banged furiously on the wall. Of course, she didn't make direct contact with Maria. However, the violence of the harsh sound certainly beat against her. "M-Miss, stop that...!!" "Let go!! I said let go, drat iiiiiiiiiiiit!!"The district welfare officer had come back to her senses and was pinning Rosa's arms behind her back. But the instant Rosa was touched, she went wild, furiously throwing the welfare officer off. She hit the table and fell to the ground. A teacup on the table smashed on the floor, making a violent sound... '...M-Maria didn't do anything wrong...! It's my fault! So don't scold Maria...!!' "I'm the one who brought Sakutaro...!! It's not Sakutaro's fault!! It's not Sakutaro's fault!! So don't look at Sakutaro with those scary eyes!! Don't look at hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim!!" 'Don't scold Maria...! Don't scold Maria...!! Uryuu--!!!' "...Y-You... What were you doing just now, and a minute ago too?" "Do you also play with dolls like that...outside? Did you do it in front of the people in the store...? "Answer me honestly. When you went out, you always walked around with that stuffed animal without telling Mama, right?" '...U-Uryu...' "Stop using that weird stuffed animal talk!!! Speak with your own words, not a stuffed animal's!!!" "S-Sakutaro isn't a stuffed animal!! He's my friend!! Don't call him a stuffed animal... Doooooooooooooooooooon't!!" "Yeah, yeah, I get it, it was called Sakutarou, was it?! You took him with you all the time when you went shopping, without telling Mama, right?" "...Y-Yeah..."Maria admitted it honestly. If she hadn't admitted it, then Sakutaro would have said something to take the blame, so by admitting it right away, she was protecting her small friend. "Only Sakutarou? Any others? You haven't been bringing weird things to school too, have you...?" "...M-Miss!! Surely your daughter has done nothing wrong! Stop this interrogation at once!" "You, stay quiet!!! I'm talking with my daughter, aren't I?!!!" "...Come on, Maria, look at Mama when you talk. What's the answer to Mama's question?" "...U-Uu-... It wasn't just Sakutaro. All the rabbits were with me too..." "...Do you have them with you now...?" "Uu-..."Maria fished around in her pockets, pulling out four ceramic rabbits with her tiny hand... The rabbits were her close friends, who could be together with her at school in Sakutaro's place. But when Rosa saw that, she shook her head slightly as though dizzy...  But Rosa had rejected that, blaming the teacher and phoning in a protest of her own to the school. Saying that there was no way her child would bring toys to school. For nearly an hour, she had shouted at the vice principal to stop making false accusations about her daughter. ...To a certain degree, those at the school had grasped that Maria was a pitiful girl. They knew that the small toys she brought in were her only friends. So they had done their best to overlook it. But when the other students caught sight of them, some of the boys had started complaining that only she could bring toys, and the school had racked their brains on how to cope with this... They had tried to gently send a warning by way of the mother, but after Rosa's overreaction, even Maria's teacher decided to overlook it. ...But now Rosa knew. She had been the one who was wrong, and her daughter really had been bringing toys to school. ...And those at the school... had known that she was a disgrace who brought toys to school and played with them as though they were her only friends. To Rosa, who thought her daughter was just a little different from normal children, having this peculiar side of her daughter exposed and found fault with was, more than anything else, something she couldn't bear.  The district welfare officer tried to cut between Rosa and Maria again, but she only met with Rosa's wrath once more. Rosa once again threw the woman off with a face like a demon, and when even that failed to curb her anger, she stomped on the ground over and over again so forcefully that it seemed she might break through the floor. Then, after seeming to come back to her senses for a second, she immediately froze her harsh breathing... and asked Maria.   "...U-Uu-..." "I see. Isn't it great that you have a full four friends?"As she said that, Rosa grabbed one of the rabbits from Maria's hand. Then, she shoved it in front of Maria's eyes so she could see it very well. The cute rabbit holding a trumpet was a small doll like a chess piece. She slowly lifted it into the air. Of course, Maria's and Sakutaro's eyes also followed it...  BGM: Requiem "Eeek!!!!" '...!!!'She had half imagined that this worst possible thing might happen. So she instantly realized what had been done. So, Maria let out a short, despairing scream... It was in pieces. It had been small and sturdy, but that hadn't been enough to withstand her mother's fierce rage.  "Miss, you think to call yourself a mother after doing something like that?!! You think you can do something like that and not hurt your daughter?!" "Hurt Maria?! I'm also hurting, right?! Who's gonna take responsibility for my wounds?!" "Weeeell?! Who iiiiiiiiiis?!!! Didn't I tell you to shut uuuuup!!!" "S-Stop it, Mama...! It's my fault...! Don't get mad at this lady...!" 'It isn't Maria's fault, it's mine...! Don't get mad at Maria...! Uryu, uryuuryuuryu, uryuu--!' "...D-Didn't I tell you to stop playing with stuffed animals like thaaaaaaaaaatt?!! In the first place, it's disgusting, you say a stuffed animal is your friend just how old are you?! How old?! Weeeeeelll?!" "Why can you never make any friends?!! That's why your class always treats you like a weirdo and makes fun of you!! Give it a rest and get ahold of yourself already!! Grow up from this stuffed animal play!!" 'Uryu, uryu...' "Like I said, stop playing with that stuffed animaaaaaaaaaall!!" "Aaah!! Mama, Mama!! Give him back! Give Sakutaro baaaaaaaaaaack!!" Mama grabbed hold of Sakutaro's head... and took him from me... Then, she smashed him against the wall, over and over.  "I said stop, drat it!! I told you to stop that stuffed animal aaaaaaaaaaact!! It's because of this stuffed animal!! That's why you can never make any friends! That's why you alone are pushed off to the side in your class and treated like a freak!! I should never have given you a stuffed animal like this!! I should never have given you such a disgusting stuffed animal!!" "Stop iiiiiiiiiiiiit!! Give Sakutaro back, give Sakutaro back!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!! Sakutaro is my friend!! My best friend!! As long as Sakutaro's there, I don't need anything else! So give him back!! Give him baaaaaaaack!!"...For some reason, my frantic request just added oil to the fire of Mama's anger... Mama pushed my arm aside as I tried to grab Sakutaro and snatch him back, and in a bizarre way, she stuck her fingernails on both hands deep into Sakutaro, twisting him... The red muffler, which I had carefully wrapped for him every day, came off and fell to the floor... ...Sakutarou, who had been so, so precious to me... Was twisted, smashed, torn at with fingernails so much... He was twisted painfully, his face curving... in sadness... Then Mama's fingernails... found a stitch on the neck... and tore it...  In that instant, Sakutaro's yellow cloth... and the cotton inside... burst apart... It looked almost like moist cotton candy...  "...kutaro...?" '...Ma...ria...' "...Sakutaro..." 'U...ryu...———' "...kutaro..." '——... .. .・ " "...ta...ro..."...The crumpled yellow cloth and the cotton candy flowing out were thrust right in front of my eyes. Then, through Mama's face, the evil being... stated it clearly.         "Beatrice, Beatrice...!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!" "Sakutaro was a good friend... As long as you do not forget that, he will always be with you... So do not cry..." "Bring him back to life!! You can use a lot of magic, Beato!! You can even bring Sakutaro back to life, right?!" "...A-About that... Of course, if Sakutaro had been my furniture, it would be easy. However, Sakutaro is your furniture. That makes it difficult for me." "If you say it's difficult, that means it isn't impossible, right?! Bring him back to life!! Bring him back to life with the Endless Magiiiiiic!" Beatrice's words were feeble. Because she knew that, no matter what the excuse, it wouldn't be enough to calm Maria and make her accept it. But she had to communicate the painful truth to her disciple and close friend. She had to tell her the fact... that even with all of her own power, even she could not revive Sakutarou.  "As long as you continue to strongly believe in Sakutarou's existence, that soul will not disappear... So, MARIA, please, do not be sad..." "Even now, look, believe that Sakutarou is smiling right over there..." "No!!! No no no!! You have to bring Sakutaro back to life!! No no no! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!" "Give it up...!! There is no magic to revive Sakutarou...! Despite that, you must strongly believe that Sakutarou will continue to exist as your close friend...!! That power will become magic...!" "That's not magic, that's not magic!! You have to bring Sakutaro back to life...!! You can't do it because Mama made him herself? Why did Mama make Sakutaro? It was to give him to me as a present, right? It was to make him my friend, right?" "So why... did Mama make it herself...and break it herself? Why did Mama give birth to it by herself, and try to break it herself? I don't understand, I don't understand!!" "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!! I can't stand it, I can't stand it, Beatriiice!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh, Sakutaroooooooo!!!!"From the darkness behind Maria's back, two massive jet-black arms crept out, twisting around Maria as she sobbed in anger. Then, massive fingernails stuck into Maria's chest and stomach... Maria could not see that. But Beato could. Anger and sadness without any place to go will tear you apart. Beato knew that. She could see that. Yes... In the end, those massive arms were Maria's own. Those fingernails slowly started to eat into her chest and stomach... With their immense size and strength, those arms could probably tear Maria into bits easily... But Maria herself couldn't notice. Drowning in a sea of her own tears, she couldn't notice that her own arms were trying to tear apart her own chest...   "Beatrice!! Teach me magic for that!! Teach me magic to beat Mama...!!" "...Is that truly how you feel?" "Kill Mama!! I'll kill her!! No, that isn't Mama! It's the bad witch possessing Mama! I'll kill the witch Mama!! Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!" "...Very well. I shall give you that power. For tearing you and your beautiful heart apart, for giving you that pain, it is fitting that your heartless mother be torn apart considerably."  
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The profile page has been updated. The backlog is falling behind, so we will be at least briefly back to MWF updates.
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Hey look, we're back to the brutal murders! 
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 I knew this would be bad, but Jeeeeeeeeeesus. (And you even included a nice video, Prof, so we can get the full, stark effect. You're too good to us, really.  )No wonder Maria never seems that broken up about her mom's death, the first episode; no wonder she latched upon the legend of the Golden Land, despite the dichotomy between everyone dying (including herself, potentially) and everyone achieving happiness. A whole bunch of things about EP1 and Maria's entire demeanor in it is now crystal clear. When she goes into witch mode, she isn't being "possessed," nor is it her autism manifesting, nor is it a "protector identity" as I ascribed: Maria is genuinely loving resentful for the abuse she openly receives, and has no patience for anyone who contributes to or allows it- she wants the whole island to burn as much as some of us do, whether she's aware of that or not, and the entire dichotomy we see between Happy Child Maria and Creepy Witch Maria is her struggling with that nature, just as she struggles with the identity of Rosa as Gentle Mom Who's Just Doing Her Best and The Monster. It also makes the moment at the end of EP2 even more poignant, because that's the moment- the only moment thus far- where Maria accepts that dichotomy and forgives her mother before dying. (Of course, this is before Beatrice continues with her torture banquet, so maybe that forgiveness wasn't complete... it's hard to forgive an abusive parent, and Maria is still a child.) Ah, yes- Beatrice. This adds yet another possible explanation for her contradictory behavior throughout the story, another reason why she's making the entire experience as painful and humiliating as possible. Because just as she seemed genuinely hurt and ashamed when she strangled Maria in the garden last episode, she seems completely appalled and aghast at this entire display... as if it reminds her of things she experienced. I had assumed her viciousness and lack of respect were counter to what Maria wanted in the end, but... what if she's so awful because of Maria? Because she is so literally offended at this entire island of broken sad people, at Kinzo the Monster, and the creator of Monsters, that she wants to wipe it out so completely that not even children and servants remain?
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Why would you do this?  Below: WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?
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Are communication books common for Japanese school children. Because if not, Maria is definitely special needs of some kind.
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Violet_Sky posted:Are communication books common for Japanese school children. Because if not, Maria is definitely special needs of some kind. Linked from that screenshot:
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Ah, okay that makes sense. In North America, communication books are only for special needs kids with autism and the like. I had one when I was a kid.
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You guys, I think Rosa might actually be the worst Ushiromiya sibling. gently caress. This: ProfessorProf posted:
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That last conversation is throwing me off a bit. Just why would Maria be on the chopping block during the family conference too, if the culprit and Beatrice are the same person? I need to rethink some things.
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So Rosa assaulted a social worker partway through her meltdown? That might make another pretty good case for why she needs money, the lawyers keeping her out of jail are probably expensive.
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I think if I acted like that in front of any of our case workers, forget an actual social worker, we'd probably be losing our kids in pretty short order. I assume this is where the "mid-80s Japan" thing is going to come up again, or possibly the "Ushiromiyas have lots of money" thing.Violet_Sky posted:Ah, okay that makes sense. In North America, communication books are only for special needs kids with autism and the like. I had one when I was a kid. Yeah, my middle kid has a similar setup. God dammit, you people.
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What episode of the Umineko Anime is that gif from?
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idonotlikepeas posted:I think if I acted like that in front of any of our case workers, forget an actual social worker, we'd probably be losing our kids in pretty short order. I assume this is where the "mid-80s Japan" thing is going to come up again, or possibly the "Ushiromiyas have lots of money" thing. These together are likely why Rosa still has custody of Maria as of game day.
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