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Noctone posted:So I guess Canelo-GGG rematch is off indefinitely. GGG was demanding an even split and apparently that is unreasonable???? He deserves an equal split 100% and with charlo / Saunders etc in line I say gently caress Canelo. It isn't GGG 's image in tatters lol
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Noctone posted:So I guess Canelo-GGG rematch is off indefinitely. GGG was demanding an even split and apparently that is unreasonable???? It's "unreasonable" from a purely financial aspect, because Canelo is the much bigger PPV star. But, Canelo failed two drug tests which caused their original rematch to fall through and cost everyone a lot of money. Golovkin is also the champion and should have been given a comfortable decision win in the first fight over Canelo, but apparently that was only worth 10 points in negotiations (the first rematch was negotiated at 65/35, up from 70/30 in the first fight). Considering everything, I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for a 50/50 split. At least 55-45. GGG will be ok; he has other options, and most people think that he won the first fight with Canelo anyway. He could finally try to unify with Saunders, or fight Charlo if he's looking for big fights. Nothing will be as lucrative as Canelo, but he'll still make millions. Canelo loses out on that big pay day too, and his future fights will not be as lucrative as the GGG rematch would have been. He's now planning on fighting Danny Jacobs, which is a big step down in money, and a dangerous fight in it's own right. Jacobs is a big and talented middleweight who could be effective at super-middleweight due to his size at 6'0. Canelo's a blown up (and possibly newly steroid-free) junior middleweight at 5'8. Canelo/Jacobs would also pretty much be a must win for Canelo. If he loses, I'm not really sure where he goes. Maybe back down to junior middleweight? It would be the first real ding on Canelo's future career potential, anyway.
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The rematch was never going to happen after Canelo popped. Sending him in the ring with GGG without his special sauce is like sending a lamb to slaughter.
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As much as I sympathize with Golovkin the boxer, Golovkin the businessman really screwed this up. In an ideal world he would at least get a 50-50 split (and maybe more) but the box office just doesnt bear it out at all. At any rate I'd be fine with Canelo-Jacobs though I think that's a bad style matchup since both are going to want to counterpunch and Golovkin fighting Saunders or Derevyanchenko or whomever. Whether intentional or not Canelo got Golovkin on the right side of his career and I have to believe it's really all downhill from here for GGG. Edit: Golovkin ended up getting stripped by the IBF anyways so so much for 'uneefication' with Saunders. https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/1004474603228614657?s=19 The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jun 7, 2018 |
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Jun 7, 2018 00:36
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The IBF are sure stubborn over their rules. I mean, it's better than the blatant corruption of the WBC and WBA, but annoying in it's own right. I'm not even sure who Derevyanchenko would fight for the IBF strap, as the #2 IBF rating is vacant and the #3 ranked guy is Danny Jacobs, who's making 10x+ the money fighting Canelo than he would fighting Derevyanchenko. The #4 ranked guy is Jermall Charlo, but he's already the WBC mandatory to Golovkin. I'm sure Charlo would much prefer a Golovkin fight to a Derevyanchenko fight for a multitude of reasons, way more money being the obvious one. So then you get to the #5 ranked guy of Demetrius Andrade, who's also Billy Joe Saunders' mandatory, but Andrade probably takes the IBF fight, because it could happen in the states and is probably an easier fight on paper than a fight with the tricky Saunders. So... maybe Derevyancheko/Andrade for the IBF strap?
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Jun 7, 2018 01:12
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I can't really get too upset about the rematch being off. I thought GGG won the first one and while I'd like to see the next fight, I don't need to and I think GGG's career really got kneecapped by being in endless negotiations with golden boy.
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Jun 7, 2018 01:28
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Horn missed weight Edit: he got there the third time but Crawford is going to kill him
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Jun 9, 2018 00:39
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Lid posted:Horn missed weight ...the first time. He got a reprieve and made it an hour later.
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Jun 9, 2018 00:40
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When Horn gets throttled tomorrow he can fufill his true destiny as Maidana's comeback fight https://twitter.com/BoxingNewsED/status/1004302807896387584 If he puts on 110 pounds
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How not to make friends Top Rank has denied any funny business after Jeff Horn said the scales had been 'dodgied' when he initially failed to make weight ahead of his world title blockbuster against Terence Crawford in Las Vegas. "We tested on the official set from Top Rank. I think there was a few tricks up their sleeve. He was just under weight and I was just over. I thought I was under. "I knew this was coming. I knew they had plenty of tricks in their book. I had to go up there for an extra 20 minutes. I think they think I'm mentally weaker than I actually am. This stuff is all part of it. I know it."
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Jun 9, 2018 01:32
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Horn is incredibly annoying. Going to be nice to see Crawford destroy him, despite Horn coming into the ring as a middleweight.
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Jun 9, 2018 05:39
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Can't knock a belt holding boxer for having self belief, or knowing how to leverage his best asset, personally.
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Jun 9, 2018 06:24
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i meant to watch that fight and forgot it was on lol
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Jun 9, 2018 23:07
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Jose posted:i meant to watch that fight and forgot it was on lol Sounds like it was complete joke. Fury looking shite with a better fight going on in the crowd behind them https://twitter.com/mattchadwick5/status/1005573499543486465
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Jun 9, 2018 23:36
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Just watched it on catch-up and it was total poo poo. Fury got warned for inactivity 
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Jun 9, 2018 23:58
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Tyson Fury kissed Sefer during the preflight instructions and just clowned around (all that can be said about Fury is that hes still unexpectedly not in shape) then Seferi quit for no reason after 4 rounds. Despite the fight being "free" to watch I still felt ripped off. At least Maurice Hooker didn't get robbed by Terry Flanagan 
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Jun 10, 2018 00:01
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So the likelihood of a fury comeback is basically nil?
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I had very low expectations going in and he didn't even match them. He's still really out of shape and got gassed easily despite hardly doing anything. It's not impossible he'll get back to where he was but he's going to need to put a whole lot more work in.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:26
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He's probably off the gear too which is going to make things harder for him in terms of dropping weight and getting fit
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Jun 10, 2018 00:32
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horn will win.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:horn will win. i don't think the guy who was seconds away from getting stopped by a 90 year old manny pacquiao is going to have much for bud but thanks for reminding me to place a bet
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Marching Powder posted:i don't think the guy who was seconds away from getting stopped by a 90 year old manny pacquiao is going to have much for bud but thanks for reminding me to place a bet Fun fact: Horn was knocked down by a 42 year old Randall Bailey and a 38 year old Ali Funeka. Maybe his weakness is old guys.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Fun fact: Horn was knocked down by a 42 year old Randall Bailey and a 38 year old Ali Funeka. Maybe his weakness is old guys. huh. that is interesting.
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Jun 10, 2018 01:10
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Watching the undercard before I turn in, Shakur Stevenson looks tidy
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Marching Powder posted:huh. that is interesting. yeah what it means is he's bad
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:yeah what it means is he's bad terrence crawford by ko / tko r 4-6
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Jun 10, 2018 01:32
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When will the Horn Crawford fight likely start?
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Jun 10, 2018 02:14
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What on Earth is ESPN+ and why would I pay for something that should be on their main networks anyway? They can't possibly be making much with this, right? I know some people that are looking to cord cut, but this won't lure them to pay for streaming ESPN 
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balancedbias posted:What on Earth is ESPN+ and why would I pay for something that should be on their main networks anyway? They can't possibly be making much with this, right? far be it from me to stan for ESPN but it's actually a good deal if you're into boxing
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Jun 10, 2018 03:17
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jesus, Moran is a loving mess
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Jun 10, 2018 03:19
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Wonder if this will end before Charlo-Trout (currently late in the 10th round)
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Jun 10, 2018 04:03
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Charlo easily decisions Trout...somehow one judge had it a draw for a majority decision. The crowd is booing so loud, and its emotionally bothering Charlo. Trout says he's not done, but not sure that's accurate.
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Jun 10, 2018 04:20
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this is like an asylum movies version of hatton vs floyd
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Jun 10, 2018 04:22
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Good stoppage. Crawford battered him.
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Jun 10, 2018 04:39
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Jun 10, 2018 04:40
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Was it competitive at all?
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Marching Powder posted:Was it competitive at all? Every source I've seen so far indicates that no, it was not competitive.
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Marching Powder posted:Was it competitive at all? Not really. Horn was rushing in the first 4 rounds or so but getting timed. He stopped after that and was even getting pushed around the clinch then Crawford really put it on and it was over. Crawford is probably the second best welterweight right now but unfortunately there's really no way for him to get the big fights for a while. Horn is at least a tough, serviceable guy which is really all he ever was
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Jun 10, 2018 04:48
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Horn's best round was one of the first two and he still lost it. Downhill from there.
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Best part about the fight was that it ended literally right when Santa Cruz-Mares began which has been pretty good so far.
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