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Nov 13, 2017 15:21
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aphid_licker posted:Oh man and I thought that the comically oversized flags on the USN destroyers were a 'merica type thing. Guess that's another nuclear power that I have to apologize to. On this video you can see the flag of the frigate Augsburg at the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZFXJFV_gA The Augsburg was one of the escorts of the carrier Charles de Gaulle when his carrier group was operating against ISIS last year.
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Nov 13, 2017 15:23
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Cyrano4747 posted:In addition to the ID issue mentioned above, contemporary Germany has some . . . issues stemming from its history with regards to flags, blatant displays of patriotism, etc. that make it a bit gun shy when it comes to putting up big national symbols. Interestingly i had a look around at RN ships and they were seldom flying a flag at all, and when they were it was of this size.  Though in fairness that size might be so we can afford fuel for our ships 
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Nov 13, 2017 15:25
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Cythereal posted:Traditionally, naval flags were enormous so other ships could see them easily for identification purposes. Who ever is the first to make flags that are totally invisible to radar shall rule the seas! Just imagine... a mile tall holographic flag 
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Nov 13, 2017 15:27
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Polyakov posted:Though in fairness that size might be so we can afford fuel for our ships With a flag big enough, you don't need any fuel.
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Nov 13, 2017 15:29
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Polyakov posted:Interestingly i had a look around at RN ships and they were seldom flying a flag at all, and when they were it was of this size. I was gonna say the engines probably catch fire if you introduce the extra wind resistance from a big flag.
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Nov 13, 2017 15:29
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Something else interesting I found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQNENQTX5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbC-2Krv5I One of our new F125-frigates testing weapons in the North Sea. Personally, the most fascinating thing about the F125-frigates (at least for me) is the high degree of automation everywhere. The automatic near-defense guns can also fire almost vertically into the water, making every attempt at boarding practically suicide. The main gun has a range of 80+ km, which sounds impressive (the actual range is higher, but also secret).
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Nov 13, 2017 15:33
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0FFPyEN1k You want to stab a fucker with your spade rifle.
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Nov 13, 2017 15:35
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aphid_licker posted:Guess that's another nuclear power that I have to apologize to. Brown Moses says what?
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Nov 13, 2017 15:38
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Trin Tragula posted:Comrade Topfer was today presented with a decoration for his efforts monitoring the Floo-Bahn to prevent Republikflucht. Thanks to his efforts, no citizens of our GDR have "accidentally" appeared in a capitalist fireplace for the last eighteen months! i just got Floo-Bahn, holy crap 
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Nov 13, 2017 15:38
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OwlFancier posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0FFPyEN1k
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Nov 13, 2017 15:43
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JcDent posted:This article posted on Cold War is bound to solve any low blood pressure issues that you have: Dumb gun question: .22 = 5.56mm?
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Nov 13, 2017 16:43
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Nebakenezzer posted:Dumb gun question: .22 = 5.56mm? Yeah. The author is using simple layman’s terms.
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Nov 13, 2017 16:49
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I feel like calling 5.56 ".22 caliber" is far more confusing than just calling it 5.56. Like yes the bullet is technically about .22 caliber but it has a lot more bang behind it than .22 lr. Technically you could describe a WW2 era German AT rifle as being 8mm, but there's a world of difference between being shot by an 8mm mauser and an 8mm AT rifle because the AT rifle has about 20x90mm of powder behind it. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Nov 13, 2017 |
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Nov 13, 2017 16:57
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Ouch, so I just heard despite almost cost 400 million pounds the program to maintain and update the Warrior might not be enough and half of them are doomed for the scrap heap. Which is kind of heart breaking. Maybe they can mothball them or sell them to Ireland? Hey Rabh, you guys want a sweet ride?
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Nov 13, 2017 17:25
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SeanBeansShako posted:Ouch, so I just heard despite almost cost 400 million pounds the program to maintain and update the Warrior might not be enough and half of them are doomed for the scrap heap. Aren't the Warrior IFV:s terrible shitheaps with the worst autocannon ever mounted on a modern vehicle?
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Nov 13, 2017 17:30
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Kemper Boyd posted:Aren't the Warrior IFV:s terrible shitheaps with the worst autocannon ever mounted on a modern vehicle? They do perform pretty decently, cannon issues aside. Look, you use what you can when your country doesn't have the Cold War an excuse for a bloated military budget.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:31
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SeanBeansShako posted:They do perform pretty decently, cannon issues aside. Look, you use what you can when your country doesn't have the Cold War an excuse for a bloated military budget. Simple solution if you're England - use that forever-alliance that you're apparently willing to maintain at any cost (see: Iraq) and just buy whatever the US is making, hopefully take advantage of some of the economies of scale involved. (yes, I know, impossible because politics)
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Nov 13, 2017 17:33
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I mean the most alarming thing is that cost. The UK will make do somehow. Two hundred million goes into the black hole of military spending. Christ.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:36
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On the plus side if we are reduced to reissuing pikes to the army it might put people off invading the middle east any more.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:38
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You know somehow we'd balls that up even. They'd be broom handles with tin foil over the sharp bit.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:39
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13th KRRC War Diary, 13th Nov 1917 posted:Training and Baths.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:40
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Or possibly the other kind of pike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lefP0_ZM-Lw
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Nov 13, 2017 17:40
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SeanBeansShako posted:You know somehow we'd balls that up even. BAE goes "well we didn't agree on the pikes having a sharp end, gonna cost you 100% more if we change the plans now."
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Nov 13, 2017 17:44
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Now, you COULD order a bunch of steel tubes from the Americans, maybe the French if you want to keep it in the EU, and then contract out to the Canadians or the Germans for some blades to stick on them. Total cost would probably, oh, 15 pounds a pike depending on the size of the order. OR, we could hire expert foresters to scour the british countryside for suitable trees and have 100% native British wood on our pikes. Of course it wouldn't be as durable as a metal pole, but making it this way would create upwards of dozens of jobs. We could contract with cutlery makers here in the UK to make the blades, but we'd probably have to spread the contract around to at least 10 different shops in order to avoid any lawsuits. Hopefully they can stay on the same pattern, but chances are we will have to shape staves to fit each company's blade individually. Total cost of our new 100% UK produced pikes will be around 5000 pounds per.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:51
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Last time the Brits were issuing lances, they were using bamboo, which means someone will assuredly suggest importing the stuff from one of the former colonies as a cost cutting measure. At which point they'll either pay absurd shipping rates for the stuff, or accidentally introduce some horrifying bamboo pest that eats all the grass on the island.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:56
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HEY GUNS posted:i want to stab a fucker with a lot of things, man How many musketeers got the gently caress beaten out of them for saying poo poo like "guns are the future" or "pikes are on the way out, grandad"
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Nov 13, 2017 17:56
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Cyrano4747 posted:Now, you COULD order a bunch of steel tubes from the Americans, maybe the French if you want to keep it in the EU, and then contract out to the Canadians or the Germans for some blades to stick on them. Total cost would probably, oh, 15 pounds a pike depending on the size of the order. thank you and god bless
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Nov 13, 2017 18:05
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MikeCrotch posted:How many musketeers got the gently caress beaten out of them for saying poo poo like "guns are the future" or "pikes are on the way out, grandad"
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Nov 13, 2017 18:06
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JcDent posted:This article posted on Cold War is bound to solve any low blood pressure issues that you have: I don't understand how the people doing the testing got caught having rigged the results and didn't get fired. Like if the people whose job it is to know things and do research sabotaged research and refused to know things, that should be all the excuse you need to clean house. I do like how later when they made all the changes to the M-16 and wanted Eugene Stoner to give it his blessing, he refused. Reminds me of the dude who wanted to delay the Challenger launch and his superior had to go over his head to give it the go-ahead. Libluini posted:The automatic near-defense guns can also fire almost vertically into the water, making every attempt at boarding practically suicide. ...is that a big issue these days?
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Nov 13, 2017 18:29
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SlothfulCobra posted:I don't understand how the people doing the testing got caught having rigged the results and didn't get fired. Like if the people whose job it is to know things and do research sabotaged research and refused to know things, that should be all the excuse you need to clean house. Pre-conceived notions are a hell of a drug
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Nov 13, 2017 19:03
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SlothfulCobra posted:...is that a big issue these days?
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Nov 13, 2017 19:10
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SlothfulCobra posted:...is that a big issue these days? Useful if you're using it on dick wagging exercises near Somalia or something. You could just have crew with machineguns but why not automate your annihilation of woefully underequipped opponents?
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Nov 13, 2017 19:11
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SlothfulCobra posted:...is that a big issue these days? Boarding probably not; little boats packed with explosives is likely the main concern.
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Nov 13, 2017 19:13
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Have anyone been stupid enough to make a shovel bayonet? Specially with the gun barrel being unobstructed when doing actual shoveling?
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Nov 13, 2017 19:20
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OwlFancier posted:On the plus side if we are reduced to reissuing pikes to the army it might put people off invading the middle east any more. never stopped us before
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Nov 13, 2017 19:21
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Plutonis posted:Have anyone been stupid enough to make a shovel bayonet? Specially with the gun barrel being unobstructed when doing actual shoveling? Boy did I make the post for you just slightly further up. I mean you're not supposed to use it attached to the rifle but I doubt that stopped people trying.
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Nov 13, 2017 19:22
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OwlFancier posted:Boy did I make the post for you just slightly further up. Oh lmao I thought it was just a short spade from the thumbnail.
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Nov 13, 2017 19:24
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HEY GUNS posted:piracy is loving huge now What are the rules of defending against pirates? I seem to remember talking to someone in (or close to?) the merchant marine and there seemed to be a bunch of legal obstacles preventing ships from having armed guards on board whose job it would be to shoot pirates with guns until death. He told a story about a ship that hired Maasai warriors to guard the ship with non-gun weapons, as a loophole I don’t know how true that was at the time, or frankly if I’m even remembering it right but would you be allowed to have a flesh-shredding drone like that on board to fight pirates?
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Nov 13, 2017 19:25
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Ainsley McTree posted:What are the rules of defending against pirates? I seem to remember talking to someone in (or close to?) the merchant marine and there seemed to be a bunch of legal obstacles preventing ships from having armed guards on board whose job it would be to shoot pirates with guns until death. He told a story about a ship that hired Maasai warriors to guard the ship with non-gun weapons, as a loophole Water cannons on ships from what I remember from Captain Philips.
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Nov 13, 2017 19:26
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