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Gwailar posted:I went with the bowler instead. I had merc on reddit apologising for the anti-LGBT+ bullying in goonwaffe which led to me leaving goons. He was told that the guy came on here tripping down on the transphobia and gaslighting. Then nothing happened. Last I looked the guy is still there, and still has a shitload of roles.
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Good Dumplings posted:a "fundamentalist approach" to getting rid of a man who has been documented doing the following: 1) Unpersoning Alex from SA and from GSF are not comparable tasks. Of course it took far fewer resources and less time for SA to do so. Plus, SA had nothing to lose. 2) My point isn't that Alex should be allowed to stay around. My point is that many of the people calling in this thread for Alex to be disavowed are doing so in a strident and tiresome manner that seems (to me) to ignore and refuse to acknowledge progress as a means to keep up the intensity and pressure. Stop talking as if people who aren't doing things just as you want when you want must have bad motives. It's bad faith. Gwailar fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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Gwailar posted:1) Unpersoning Alex from SA and from GSF are not comparable tasks. Of course it took far fewer resources and less time for SA to do so. Plus, SA had nothing to lose. nah
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:idk just talk to any of them, all the directorate posts itt are pretty good where they say what the people did suck should be really easy to loving post one then?
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ullerrm posted:
Probably the best course of action.
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That Works posted:This is what it looks like when you have armchair middle management trying to paper over a CEO level HR crisis. Yeah, 100%. I have no axe to grind with any of you. It's a complete coincidence that I started playing as all this poo poo exploded, but given that fresh perspective, I think several of you should really step back and think about what you're doing here. EvE is just a game, but you're still a real person and so are the people who your actions effect. If you just want to get back to the video game as quickly and quietly as possible after something like this blows up, if you treat people upset about that with arrogant indifference, you never deserved a position of authority in a video game guild or anywhere else.
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Bigbillthaboss posted:hey how is your confederate flag avatar is allowed in this thread? Gentlemen, I am pleased to inform you all that the operation to replace Bills brain with a sack of wet mice was a stunning success
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CainFortea posted:He's just prepping his next victims. hth. I have hung out around Dozer for a year or two in a non-EVE SA-sourced Discord server and so far he has demonstrated through his actions and words he's not that person anymore. He does still get tilted easy but he's better able to manage that and disengage when he recognizes it. Like, the difference here is Dozer's either a very good actor or his efforts to be better have had some success. Compare this to Mittens who - very evidently! - was and is the same rear end in a top hat from the Wizard Hat Incident. E: And if I turn out to be wrong, well, then I'll be wrong. dragonshardz fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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I'll concentrate all the wildly unpopular takes I can into one post: - Atrum is a good guy - Asher is also pretty decent - Globby is right about the likely trajectory of Goosefleet, and the recommended corps/alliances in the OP are mostly bad for newbies. He's wrong about kd ratios though: that is not the reason. - Those wanting Mittens banned from Goonfleet clearly misunderstand the way that WhatsApp, discord etc make corp membership and forum access sideshows. If GSF is losing badly and he wants to come back then getting his account back on gsf dot com will not be the hard part. The INN links are the key to that link, anyway. - The biggest punishment for him would in any case to have been left ruining his life by clinging to a pathetic existence as pretend emperor of space in a silly and dying game - I wish everyone would stop saying "carrying water" and "showing their rear end" because they're wildly overused itt I'll balance with a blindingly obvious point of consensus: - Bill, you unbanned Xenuria for a laugh, so stop pretending you are virtuous as a result of him using the opportunity to gently caress himself
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dragonshardz posted:Like, the difference here is Dozer's either a very good actor or his efforts to be better have had some success. Compare this to Mittens who - very evidently! - was and is the same rear end in a top hat from the Wizard Hat Incident. I don't need to compare him to mittens. They can both be bad.
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Endie posted:- Globby is right about the likely trajectory of Goosefleet, and the recommended corps/alliances in the OP are mostly bad for newbies. He's wrong about kd ratios though: that is not the reason.  Do enlighten me, oh agéd third-party. I am open to receive your wisdom.
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CainFortea posted:I don't need to compare him to mittens. They can both be bad. dozers been cool to me. dunno him from before you guys had your incidents, but he's not bad now. as for exposing his genitalia to your peers.... send link to vid thnx
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Zodium posted:Because I know him much better than you do, globby. I’ve already explained the process, and how banning Alex stops that process in the phase where he hangs out as a professor emeritus type. Can I help further clarify it for you? he can do that while being banned, hth dragonshardz posted:Our ZKB isn't empty, hth "guys we just don't post them lol haha" no one believes you, dead group dragonshardz posted:
because ur group is already going through drama and all of u suck at the game lmao SHISHKABOB posted:what drama scroll back a couple pages 1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:he can do that while being banned, hth what drama
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i hope no one looks at my killboard, how embarrassing
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:i hope no one looks at my killboard, how embarrassing Back when I was in FA, a guy in my corp, Thom Grimmar or something was the top loser of our whole alliance and he was drat proud of that fact.
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Endie posted:- Bill, you unbanned Xenuria for a laugh, so stop pretending you are virtuous as a result of him using the opportunity to gently caress himself This is slightly incorrect or not really the way you are implying it, here lemme explain: I have watched Xenuria egotistically debate people (he's tried a number of times to initiate arguments with me in the past) and recognized pretty early on how over-confident and self absorbed he is. I also knew he was wanting to combat an oldschool SA poster Hezzy, and from a brief review of Hezzy's posting history, I made the assumption that it would probably be an entertaining back and forth. I also assumed Xenuria would try his standard "breadcrumb trickle" argument strategy where he attempts to guide someone down a path for what he believes is some epic "I HAVE CAUGHT YOU, now here's the super juxtapose MeGaPwN gotcha play!". From what I gathered lurking on the SA EVE thread(s) I came to the conclusion that Xenuria's dumbshit gimmick had a high probability of failing against someone the likes of Hezzy, and the result would probably be pretty funny. However, I in no way expected that level of "holy poo poo did he really just do that?!" failure. Also I didn't unban him, I forwarded the request on to Redline and said "do with this information what you want" which resulted in Redline unbanning him. I wasn't posting that snippet as a "I'M THE VRITUOUS MAN ON MY HORSE", I was posting it because of his comment at the end although I think somewhere in one of these threads I took more credit than I should have to be funny. I think I even edited it to include the zoomed in version highlighting said comment b/c it's loving gold mine. Also, Endie, I don't really think that box you stand on is as high as you think it is, there is stink of irony emanating from that trail of lifeless carcasses behind your hover-round as well. Bigbillthaboss fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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Endie posted:- I wish everyone would stop saying "carrying water" because they're wildly overused itt ill use what i want when i want you scottish hussy bill your shield of vacuousness is as thick as dbrb's
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FirstnameLastname posted:I got banned for an admittedly rude, and poorly worded analogy about mittani that was right. Dalael posted:1- For leadership to publicly disavow Mittani. For what it's worth I've played EVE for about one year (2020, obviously) out of the last six or so. I resubbed the same day I was given the exec corp. Most of the last few weeks have been spent catching up on the details of recent events. That included a "fun" exercise on what actually went wrong behind the scenes with mittani/xenuria because it's something that should not be allowed to occur again. Of course Mittani's actions weren't acceptable - as a direct result I'm back in this dumb dying game because GSF needs to follow through on being a place where every member feels safe & welcome. Sadly I don't have the same amount of free time for space MMOs that I used to, but genuine changes have happened and will continue to happen. This week I'm only checking here once a day and can't respond to everyone, so don't all @ me at once to explain how monstrous I am. Maybe take turns or something.
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zkb, enjoy: https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98658625/ also lmao what fuckin' drama you blithering loving twit
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:
yeah dont see anything
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"wow this group that literally is brand new isn't racking up massive kill counts on day 1" Please gently caress off globby and stop trying to start dumb fights over poo poo you know literally nothing about.
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Stop quoting Globby, if they won't ban his rear end at least stop quoting him so he gets around the ignore listBigbillthaboss posted:However, I in no way expected that level of "holy poo poo did he really just do that?!" failure. So you forwarded the request rather than stopping it dead in its tracks, and you can't claim that you were doing so to puppeteer his self immolation? Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Aug 1, 2022 |
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thread was posted on jul 18 first recorded thing on zkb is july 23 corp is literally less than a month old as a functional organization so gently caress off with your fearmongering, idiots
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No you see this corp that was created back in 2020 as a joke for me and a couple toilet eve friends to park our mains in while we continued to win 2L eve should have had elite afk freighter kills from day one.
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Sarmhan posted:
I think, but I might be wrong, he's just highlighting how a number of active posters in here (but not all!) are posting about 'things' and 'stuff' as if they were heavily involved with the EVE community and EVE organizations for, what is seemingly implied, a long time but in fact barely play the game. It seems as if he's highlighting the ironies or hypocrisies riddled in many of the posts, for example, comments about how spaceship guilds should be run when in fact they have realistically spent very little time in organized space groups.
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Anyway so long and thanks for all the isk. don't kill me it's a joke
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Bigbillthaboss posted:I think, but I might be wrong, he's just highlighting how a number of active posters in here (but not all!) are posting about 'things' and 'stuff' as if they were heavily involved with the EVE community and EVE organizations for, what is seemingly implied, a long time but in fact barely play the game. It seems as if he's highlighting the ironies or hypocrisies riddled in many of the posts, for example, comments about how spaceship guilds should be run when in fact they have realistically spent very little time in organized space groups. yeah i said this dozens of posts ago, but they're too dumb so you gotta hit them with the simpler "u r t3h suxx0rz" Sarmhan posted:"wow this group that literally is brand new isn't racking up massive kill counts on day 1"  dragonshardz posted:zkb, enjoy: https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98658625/ wow good job you guys killed some ventures today lol
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Bigbillthaboss posted:I think, but I might be wrong, he's just highlighting how a number of active posters in here (but not all!) are posting about 'things' and 'stuff' as if they were heavily involved with the EVE community and EVE organizations for, what is seemingly implied, a long time but in fact barely play the game. It seems as if he's highlighting the ironies or hypocrisies riddled in many of the posts, for example, comments about how spaceship guilds should be run when in fact they have realistically spent very little time in organized space groups. same
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corgski posted:Anyway so long and thanks for all the isk. Jokes on you I already got reimbursed for all the poo poo I hauled in for the corp.
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so is it called 2 liter eve because instead of playing while sitting on the toilet it's played while pissing into a 2 liter bottle?
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BigPaddy posted:Jokes on you I already got reimbursed for all the poo poo I hauled in for the corp. how many posts were you able to fit in a standard industrial?
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dragonshardz posted:i'm gay Im gay+1
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corgski posted:No you see this corp that was created back in 2020 as a joke for me and a couple toilet eve friends to park our mains in while we continued to win 2L eve should have had elite afk freighter kills from day one. I can't see it and I don't want to see it, but I'm tickled pink by self-styled  goons getting unironically, sincerely serious over pages and pages about kill performance in a video game guild in 2022The fact that this is all over some "schism" but they can't leave the "schism" forum alone is only the side plot of the absolute banger that this Chuck Tingle novel is turning out to be. "Heave Online: Tied And Tortured By The Physical Manifestation Of My Own Guilt And Subsequent Desire To Seek Approval Of Moralistic Posters On Something Awful Dot Com"
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Sarmhan posted:Im gay+1 Im gay+2
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+1 for adding Goonswarm Federation back into the OP since the problem parties are no longer relevant in the organization, and the mechanism to handle issues is improved and fixed
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xtothez posted:For what it's worth I've played EVE for about one year (2020, obviously) out of the last six or so. I resubbed the same day I was given the exec corp. Most of the last few weeks have been spent catching up on the details of recent events. That included a "fun" exercise on what actually went wrong behind the scenes with mittani/xenuria because it's something that should not be allowed to occur again. hey if youre serious about getting caught up id read the goldmined thread and not just rely on the opinions of the directorate if you actually read the whole thing, the case for "banning and disavowing mittens by stating what he actually did and that defending him will not be tolerated" makes itself given that we had a policy of banning people for pushing alternate CSM ballots, i dont think its unreasonable to make it official GSF policy that posting mittani sex pest denialism will result in a blacklist 1001 Arabian dicks posted:+1 for adding Goonswarm Federation back into the OP since the problem parties are no longer relevant in the organization, and the mechanism to handle issues is improved and fixed for the like sixth time you dullard it is still relevant when directors are still claiming that its all a hoax or allegations against mittens were fabricated up to and including the loving coalition leader Mr. Grinch fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Aug 2, 2022 |
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:+1 for adding Goonswarm Federation back into the OP since the problem parties are no longer relevant in the organization, and the mechanism to handle issues is improved and fixed They said they don't recruit from SA anymore, sorry.
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