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DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
Man, the FJ-09 is big. I expected it to feel closer to the FZ-09 because it only weighs a couple pounds more, but it has this ridiculous wide tank and handguards. Felt bigger than I expected it to, much like the Versys did when I rode that. I really wish Yamaha would make an FJ-07 with the P-Twin and a size closer to the CB500X (which is the perfect size) - that'd be my ideal bike.

Since it doesn't exist yet, though, the CB500X is going to be the thing for me.

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rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?
Day 2 of motorcycle ownership: Practicing weaving around rocks and u-turns in my driveway and yard. Neighbors threaten to call the police when I go 10 feet onto their property. It's fair, I was in the wrong, but really? It's never been an issue before when I drove my mower or tractor across the same spot, but the bike? Yeah let's just call the police.

For reference, I own a 1.5 acre pond that butts up against the property line in one corner. Erosion has caused the pond to creep past the property line for about 10 feet. It was like that when we bought the house, and until now has not been an issue.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

KARMA! posted:

How did you come to be part of a focus group? That's pretty cool.

Saw a thing on Facebook. Despite a lingering suspicion that it was all an elaborate ploy to steal my bike and/or kidneys, I still went along - it was surprisingly fun, basically talk about bikes for two hour, pick up a hundred quid.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

rdb posted:

Day 2 of motorcycle ownership: Practicing weaving around rocks and u-turns in my driveway and yard. Neighbors threaten to call the police when I go 10 feet onto their property. It's fair, I was in the wrong, but really? It's never been an issue before when I drove my mower or tractor across the same spot, but the bike? Yeah let's just call the police.

For reference, I own a 1.5 acre pond that butts up against the property line in one corner. Erosion has caused the pond to creep past the property line for about 10 feet. It was like that when we bought the house, and until now has not been an issue.

Now that you ride a motorcycle you're supposed to beat the poo poo out of people who back talk you. Thanks for letting the brotherhood down.



Your neighbor sounds like a dick.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

So I've done my market research and have been sworn to secrecy, something I will of course completely and totally honour hahaha of course not.

It's for the new Striple, which will be a 765, on a par price- and performance-wise with the Japanese, considerably prettier (although still with those fuckawful headlights), yadda yadda. What's more interesting is there'll be a new level above the R, the RS, with a shitload of extra trick bits - TFT display, 5 RBW modes (one of which bumps up the hp to 125ish), Brembo radial MC, LED lights, on top of the Ohlins suspension and other goodies the R will get. It'll be £2k more than the base model but still below £10k, which is an absolute shitload of bike for the money. The guy seemed quite crestfallen that nobody thought all that made the bike more of a "premium" product than the Monster or the Brutale though.

That's pretty cool - a middleweight street triple would be rad. Agreed that's a pile of bike for the money, we live in good times.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Man, the FJ-09 is big. I expected it to feel closer to the FZ-09 because it only weighs a couple pounds more, but it has this ridiculous wide tank and handguards. Felt bigger than I expected it to, much like the Versys did when I rode that. I really wish Yamaha would make an FJ-07 with the P-Twin and a size closer to the CB500X (which is the perfect size) - that'd be my ideal bike.

Since it doesn't exist yet, though, the CB500X is going to be the thing for me.

Roomy ergos are good for mile-eaters like the FJ-09 and the Versys.

You could build a FJ-07 out of a FZ-07 for probably as much money as Yamaha would charge over a FZ. Shield, Givi system, useless bark buster knockoffs (just omit those), pretty easy. But really just put a Givi kit on it and you're golden, windshields suck.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib

Did you ride over their footbridge?

Seriously that sucks because when I saw your picture earlier I wondered why you were tooling around your gravel road instead of all those fields and woods pictured. Your neighbors are dicks, but you should sit down with them and ask why that action particularly bothered them. Then bash them with your helmet.

High Protein
Jul 12, 2009

Renaissance Robot posted:

In bikes "premium" generally seems to mean "breaks all the goddamn time and is expensive to fix", so really a bike being great but not premium is a good thing.

I thought Triumph's niche was trying to be posher than the Japanese bikes while sacrificing performance for reliability, kind of the anti-KTM, which seems like an alright spot to be in.

As for a new street triple, 130hp seems like a bit much, will they introduce a new entry level bike?

High Protein fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Apr 11, 2016

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

yep, ride a bike, can confirm this is basically what my afternoons look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlFphYBABI

High Protein
Jul 12, 2009
Regarding Triumph, what I think is interesting is that for a couple of years now Triumphs have been the least stolen bikes (relatively) here in the Netherlands (KTM the most). And I think that makes sense, it seems people either want a Triumph specifically, or they're just not interested. Maybe they need a better halo bike than the Rocket, something with a 1290cc v twin perhaps.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

High Protein posted:

As for a new street triple, 130hp seems like a bit much, will they introduce a new entry level bike?

Street Twin?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

clutchpuck posted:

Street Twin?

Out theseways there is a LAMS striple with a restricted engine and everything else the same. I imagine 130hp is considered beginner-ready in the US anyway.

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?

Coydog posted:

Did you ride over their footbridge?

Seriously that sucks because when I saw your picture earlier I wondered why you were tooling around your gravel road instead of all those fields and woods pictured. Your neighbors are dicks, but you should sit down with them and ask why that action particularly bothered them. Then bash them with your helmet.

Yeah, going to cool off a bit (and speak to a real estate attorney) before I talk to him again. He seemed very upset about some ruts my tractor supposedly left in his yard, and accused me of going all over the loving place on his land when I haven't. He has an easement that allows use of a drive across my yard that he has failed to maintain, instead opting to drive further into my yard around the potholes. A couple weeks ago I took my tractor down and fixed the potholes and cleaned up the ruts in my yard. I may have turned around on his lawn or something. I could go on about the animals his dog has killed, or the damage its done to my garage, or how he starved it to death, but I was really hoping to stay on good terms. Really hoping.

As for the rest of the land in the picture, it's a soybean field that's leased to a guy we aren't on good terms with. He spread turkey manure an hour before we got 5" of rain, and it washed into my pond. The algae is uncontrollable and it killed most of my fish. Indiana state chemist was pretty worthless when we reported it, it did little more than piss the farmer off. Going to restock it in few years when my 5mo old son is old enough to fish. Hopefully by then the phosphorus has washed out.

I pretty much have zero flat land to practice on. Weaving through the offset cones is way loving easier going downhill, and the gravel u turns are getting easier. I did drop the bike once already, thankfully it landed on top of me and there was no damage. I want to take a road test this weekend badly, so I can legally commute on the bike. I leave around 4:30am and your not supposed to ride when it's dark on just a permit. I also don't know the legality of riding into another state (I work in KY) on just a permit. Part of me says just quit being a bitch and do it.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

clutchpuck posted:

Roomy ergos are good for mile-eaters like the FJ-09 and the Versys.

You could build a FJ-07 out of a FZ-07 for probably as much money as Yamaha would charge over a FZ. Shield, Givi system, useless bark buster knockoffs (just omit those), pretty easy. But really just put a Givi kit on it and you're golden, windshields suck.

The CB500X ergos are just as nice as the FJ's for me (I'm like 5'10" / 180) and I just don't feel like I'd be comfortable lane splitting and poo poo on the FJ09 due to its width. If the FZ07 had ABS I'd consider doing that and just adding bar risers but without it that just isn't an option.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

why bar risers? I feel like the bars are already super high on mine. coming from a CB-1 though which is basically a cafe bike stock

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
The supermoto / adv touring bike seating position is what fits me best, not sure why. I need to be bolt upright.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
Get some MX style bars with more rise. Cooler than stock bars on risers.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

The CB500X ergos are just as nice as the FJ's for me (I'm like 5'10" / 180) and I just don't feel like I'd be comfortable lane splitting and poo poo on the FJ09 due to its width. If the FZ07 had ABS I'd consider doing that and just adding bar risers but without it that just isn't an option.

A lot of the width on the FJ is due to the hand guards, which you can remove.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
Haha, yeah looks like you can slim it by like 6" by taking the silly things off...

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


clutchpuck posted:

Haha, yeah looks like you can slim it by like 6" by taking the silly things off...



Are those actually metal handguards or just the plastic shields like everyone else?

solarNativity
Nov 11, 2012

Deeters posted:

Are those actually metal handguards or just the plastic shields like everyone else?

Looks like a metal 'backbone' with plastic guards like a lot of nicer ones these days have.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
I dunno if anybody remembers the story of the guy who bought my boss's Triumph Trident. I'll refresh a bit:

About a year ago a guy calls up the shop and I take it and he asks about vintage Triumphs for sale, I mention one we have, but the guy wants a Trident, I say the owner has a 1971 or something but it's his personal bike and he doesn't wanna sell it. Guy on phone says tell the owner to name his price. So my boss names his price, about twice what it's worth because he doesn't want to sell, and the guy on the phone shows up the next day with something like 11k in cash.

My boss delivers it to the guy and finds out the guy already had a Trident but it was all messed up and wouldn't run. It was built by some land speed record people and probably worth a lot if it hadn't been hosed up. But it was hosed up because the guy on the phone couldn't get it to run and completely lost his poo poo and took a sledgehammer to the bike. All that survived was most of the engine and the rolling frame. He didn't even want to sell it, he wanted to take it all to a junkyard because he was embarrassed about what he did to it. Insane story but we at the shop kinda figured well everybody has one of those days where they just lose their poo poo. My boss buys that thing from the guy for cheap, does a lot of work to it, gets it going. It's had a bunch more issues, it's still under construction now.

...

Well today another random guy walks into the shop and says he got a Triumph Trident from a scrap metal dump and wondered if we knew about places to get parts for it etc. I call the boss over, they talk for a minute, and boss is like, wait, you found a Trident in a junkyard? An entire Trident? They're not exactly common bikes after all. Guy says yeah and he says where he found it. It's like the closest dump to the guy on the phone from a year ago. They talk a bit more about what parts were on the bike, the dual disc conversion front brake, braided lines, original paint colors, T150 model. Yes, it's the bike that my boss sold to the guy on the phone for 11k cash a year prior.

That bike was in 100% condition when he sold it. He did like every reliability and rideability conversion on it you can do, brakes/gold valves/electronic ignition/dyno tune, it was his commuter, there was nothing wrong with it. The guy on the phone had repainted some of it, then took a sledgehammer and more to it. Punched holes in the tank with a square shaped rod of some kind. But this random dude who picked it up out of the scrap yard already had it running again, so obviously it wasn't that the engine blew up or anything. And my boss told the guy when he sold the bike to just call if he ever has any questions or issues, he'd be happy to help out, cause obviously he was getting a fantastic price on it. Never got any such call.

So that's two Tridents in a row this insane guy has bought for big money and then deliberately destroyed. Guy is totally unhinged obviously. And what are the chances the guy who picks it out of the scrap bin would come to us to ask about it? We're not listed on the web as Trident experts or anything. The boss and I just sat around shaking our heads in disbelief at each other after the guy left today. Completely surreal. What in the holy hell?

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
I really enjoy stories from your shop.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

I dunno if anybody remembers the story of the guy who bought my boss's Triumph Trident. I'll refresh a bit:
crazy poo poo

Serial bike murderer that needs to be brought to justice

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib
That was fascinating and riveting. I almost wish you could reach out and inquire on the status of the bike with the guy you sold it to, but you probably don't want to remind him of your existence. Since, you know, a guy like that knows where to find you and all. :catstare:

Angryboot
Oct 23, 2005

Grimey Drawer
What. The. gently caress.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

11k cash? Randomly destroyed two bikes for no good reason? It's yer ol' mate: meth.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

High Protein posted:

I thought Triumph's niche was trying to be posher than the Japanese bikes while sacrificing performance for reliability, kind of the anti-KTM, which seems like an alright spot to be in.

As for a new street triple, 130hp seems like a bit much, will they introduce a new entry level bike?

The base model will be around 110, which doesn't seem excessive (only a little more than the current one - most of the extra ccs are going to adding torque, which is fine by me). The bike press have been talking about a ~400 cc striple, possibly a p-twin, for a while now, so it's still entirely possible they'll bring that out.

As to the niche thing, they do seem to be aiming a bit more squarely at that. There were a lot more nice little touches on the bike - like the rear lights being the new (old) Triumph logo, solid (3d) name on the tank rather than painted, that sort of thing.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Man, even if I'd gotten double money for it I'd be pretty torn up to find out that had happened to a bike I'd put so much work in to. :(

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Maybe his dad ran away when he was three. To the UK. To work for a motorcycle company as chief designer...

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

Slavvy posted:

11k cash? Randomly destroyed two bikes for no good reason? It's yer ol' mate: meth.
Also the guy appeared to be 70+ years old.

astrollinthepork
Sep 24, 2007

When you come at the king, you best not miss, snitch

HE KNOWS
That is amazing and there is so much more I want to know. Please call and interrogate him.

M42
Nov 12, 2012


Renaissance Robot posted:

Man, even if I'd gotten double money for it I'd be pretty torn up to find out that had happened to a bike I'd put so much work in to. :(

Same here. What a whackass story!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I mean, it's his bike and he can do what he wants with it, but who takes a sledgehammer to $11,000 for real? That's insane. Plus the fact that he did it twice?

Have him committed for having the worlds most expensive fetish

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

I mean, it's his bike and he can do what he wants with it, but who takes a sledgehammer to $11,000 for real? That's insane. Plus the fact that he did it twice?

Have him committed for having the worlds most expensive fetish

People who can afford it? Wealth is relative, and a matter of perspective. Especially if he's in the 70's, then he just may not give a gently caress. Or mental illness, probably both. Pretty sad story tho.

I've spent about 3 years unfucking and rebuilding a former drift car, no bolt left unturned. Sold out for twice the money and then found out the new owner is turning it back into a drift car. With "illest" stickers and everything. It was a bit of a bitter shock. Stopped taking to the guy after that.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
His ex wife prob banged his brother on a triumph and now that the sickening thrill of getting away with hammering his brothers head into blood mush pudding like a watermelon in gallaghers table a new thrill must be found and here we are in a world with 2 less triumphs and one man with an unfulfilled viagra rage revenge sadness boner...looking for a new fix

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

Also the guy appeared to be 70+ years old.

I've been to Idaho and I can tell you that meth knows no age.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

What in the actual gently caress? Dude...

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Have him committed for having the worlds most expensive fetish

If it's a fetish thing, it's very specific.

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Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
What if it just turned out he forgot to turn the petcock on? What a stupid thing to do.

Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Apr 13, 2016

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