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LazyMaybe posted:oooough god I hate people confidently spreading misinformation so they have an unlisted damage boost against certain parts of the enemy? Arc Hammer posted:They really need to give heavy armor some buff that isn't just damage resist against explosions. Give it some functionality like being able to fully brace weapons for pinpoint accuracy or gaining immunity to knockdown when standing still. Turn yourself into a deployable turret. That'd be cool but I'd settle for like, flinch resistance or ragdolling resistance. I'm too fat to run from hunters at least let me stim through the crowd as I mow them down with my pump action shotgun
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I have recently discovered Dracula Flow and this is accurate to a Helldivers 2 match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPGP-yOemAQ
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# ? May 19, 2024 05:22 |
novaSphere posted:You still die to a rocket headshot even in heavy explosive resist armor. Heavy armor is *okay* against bots but I'd rather just use medium armor. This isn't always true, but I think you sometimes (rarely) get killed by rocket headshots because it applies physical force downwards on you which makes your legs / torso take a bunch of damage when you slam down into the ground, or you get unlucky and and get juggled between multiple rockets. Anecdotally, using any of the heavy armors against bots I don't get literally one shot by anything, other than sometimes hulk buzzsaws, and only very rarely die to the rocket juggle. My feeling is that a rare handful of players swear by heavy armor (me included) who find it pretty useful. Most players never ever heavy, and any amount of bonuses on heavy armor won't get people to change, feels like a lost cause, because people rate their movement speed very highly. The only case I can see for people using heavy armor is if the majority of enemy composition can jump and catch up with light armor like hunters can - so if perhaps the illuminate rank and file troops can all teleport strike, then maybe! EDIT: having said that, i certainly wouldn't mind some knockdown or flinch resistance! I'm going to be going slow anyway, so I'll take any kind of buffs they handout...
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# ? May 19, 2024 05:24 |
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Arc Hammer posted:They really need to give heavy armor some buff that isn't just damage resist against explosions. Give it some functionality like being able to fully brace weapons for pinpoint accuracy or gaining immunity to knockdown when standing still. Turn yourself into a deployable turret. Greater recoil reduction would be nice. If the HMG had a bipod and I could go prone and mow down my opponents in heavy armor I'd wear it all the time.
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# ? May 19, 2024 05:36 |
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Kitfox88 posted:so they have an unlisted damage boost against certain parts of the enemy? For instance, literally every part of a bile titan is "durable". A hulk's body is more "durable" and thus more affected by the durable damage stat than its eye. A devastator's body is 40% durable, but its head(which is the weakpoint) is 0% durable. That's exactly the opposite of a weakpoint, but having 0% durability and thus taking 100% normal damage actually contributes to it being a weakpoint, because it means it's more vulnerable to primary weapons! AtomikKrab posted:For the laser cannon discussion, remember it can set things on fire, likely it gets a tick or two of fire damage off on the turret once you hold it and that's why its under 4 seconds to kill. Secondly, it being under 4 seconds is expected. The cannon has 750 HP, the vent is 100% durable so only cares about durable damage, and the laser cannon does 200 durable damage per second. Thus, you'd expect it to do 750 damage in 3.75 seconds... which is what I've seen running tests just now. LazyMaybe fucked around with this message at 05:56 on May 19, 2024 |
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Captainicus posted:This isn't always true, but I think you sometimes (rarely) get killed by rocket headshots because it applies physical force downwards on you which makes your legs / torso take a bunch of damage when you slam down into the ground, or you get unlucky and and get juggled between multiple rockets. Anecdotally, using any of the heavy armors against bots I don't get literally one shot by anything, other than sometimes hulk buzzsaws, and only very rarely die to the rocket juggle. Don't get me wrong, I like using heavy armor and want to like it more, but can only really justify it against bots and even then it's only when I'm using a high-recoil primary/support weapon w/ Fortified or now the new Engineering heavy. Else I just take the Extra Padding mediums to have 150 armor while running with better speed/stamina. I've never experienced a headshot rocket that didn't instantly kill me in any class of armor or perk, so I'm curious how you're surviving them consistently. novaSphere fucked around with this message at 07:48 on May 19, 2024 |
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novaSphere posted:Don't get me wrong, I like using heavy armor and want to like it more, but can only really justify it against bots and even then it's only when I'm using a high-recoil primary/support weapon. Else I just take the Extra Padding mediums to have 150 armor while running with better speed/stamina. I've never experienced a headshot rocket that didn't instantly kill me in any class of armor or perk, so I'm curious how you're surviving them consistently. Yeah honestly its weird, I'm pretty sure I have survived rocket headshots or they are so rare I haven't been hit with one for a really long time (obviously hard to tell whether it was a head hit or not-quite head neck area hit). Its entirely possible I've just got lucky and haven't been head hit or you've been unlucky and had many physics deaths or both but its hard to say
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# ? May 19, 2024 07:52 |
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After the last major patch medium and heavy armor reduce headshot damage. (The way the patch note was written implied it was only heavy armor, but that was wrong.)
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:07 |
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The way it was written made it seem like just the starter mediums with padded get headshot protection
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:41 |
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Sindai posted:After the last major patch medium and heavy armor reduce headshot damage. I still get instakilled by headshot rockets in fortified heavy armor even after the patch.
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# ? May 19, 2024 08:46 |
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Buggy night tonight Had one rescue civilians mission where the reinforce option was gone. Once all four of us were dead we could all deploy at the same time and get a handle on things but we still missed the goal by one civilian Had an evacuate valuable assets mission where the shuttle wouldn’t register us as having boarded. I started committing suicide over and over to force a mission end but the timer beat me to it. Really weird. Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 10:20 on May 19, 2024 |
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Steve Yun posted:Had an evacuate valuable assets mission where the shuttle wouldn’t register us as having boarded. I started committing suicide over and over to force a mission end but the timer beat me to it. Really weird. That happened to me the other day. You could go inside the shuttle but the sitting animation didn't play and it never took off.
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# ? May 19, 2024 10:13 |
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Blitzer is very fun agaunst bugs. Giving them the zap and their heads explode.
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# ? May 19, 2024 10:19 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:That happened to me the other day. You could go inside the shuttle but the sitting animation didn't play and it never took off. If the shuttle gets damaged, like if you're tossing 380s around, it can bug out.
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# ? May 19, 2024 10:28 |
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We did have a guy using 380s and not realizing how far you have to throw it to be a safe distance from it
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# ? May 19, 2024 10:37 |
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better than having these teammates on a bot mission
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# ? May 19, 2024 10:42 |
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Steve Yun posted:We did have a guy using 380s and not realizing how far you have to throw it to be a safe distance from it Freedom isn't free
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# ? May 19, 2024 11:07 |
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I ran into someone earlier who didn't know this so I thought I'd mention-armor that says "Further reduces recoil when crouching or prone by 30%" doesn't actually do that. It actually reduces recoil by 30% at all times. https://i.imgur.com/C0pBThk.mp4 ^Full auto HMG spraying comparison, both standing and crouching
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# ? May 19, 2024 11:20 |
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The recoil reduce/increase grenades light armor is tops. Until they put out fire resist armor.
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# ? May 19, 2024 13:43 |
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I'm dying repeatedly to bile/nursing spew and I'm wondering if it's because I switched up to the lightest possible armour. That stuff so much as brushes you and it's almost always a OHKO, and I haven't figured out how to reliably dodge it. I guess by not being close enough for them to spew it
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# ? May 19, 2024 13:48 |
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Heavy armor should get fire resist by default
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# ? May 19, 2024 13:57 |
SpartanIvy posted:The EAT beacon will stick to chargers and other things on the downward trajectory of it's arc, so I always try to stick chargers with it when requesting them. Sometimes I get a kill from it, but in any case I get two EATs to use. One time it stuck to me and killed me on drop. That was a bad time. (I didn't figure out if it was some kind of hack or just a dumb bug).
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# ? May 19, 2024 13:58 |
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Wachter posted:I'm dying repeatedly to bile/nursing spew and I'm wondering if it's because I switched up to the lightest possible armour. That stuff so much as brushes you and it's almost always a OHKO, and I haven't figured out how to reliably dodge it. I guess by not being close enough for them to spew it
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Wachter posted:I'm dying repeatedly to bile/nursing spew and I'm wondering if it's because I switched up to the lightest possible armour. That stuff so much as brushes you and it's almost always a OHKO, and I haven't figured out how to reliably dodge it. I guess by not being close enough for them to spew it I died a lot to those guys and then I basically always started bringing a Laser Dog to warn me when they’re sneaking up on me to spit. I also wear Medium Armor so it’s no longer a OHKO, I also think their damage got nerfed a bit. Now they very rarely get me.
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Aeble posted:One time it stuck to me and killed me on drop. That was a bad time. (I didn't figure out if it was some kind of hack or just a dumb bug). All stratagems may or may not still stick to the shield back pack's energy shield. They certainly used to. I had to dodge a couple of resupply drops before I figured out you can just drop the shield pack if a friendly stratball gets stuck to you. If that isn't what happened then I have no idea.
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Snatched some wins from the jaws of defeat yesterday. Kept dropping into random pubbie SOS missions that were going to hell, the kind where the group that finally extracted had none of the original group members. It wasn't like super skill or anything, mostly just stick-to-it-iveness, and taking charge to pin locations and coax people to move on when reinforcements were getting low.
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# ? May 19, 2024 16:12 |
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The trick to not dying to sneaky things is to always be looking around and moving. If you stop moving they will sneak up on you.
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Risky Bisquick posted:The trick to not dying to sneaky things is to always be looking around and moving. If you stop moving they will sneak up on you. Sincerely this
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Risky Bisquick posted:The trick to not dying to sneaky things is to always be looking around and moving. If you stop moving they will sneak up on you. Yeah and if you're standing still or not shooting things you should have the map open and spend time ‼️ Ng enemies.
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Lobok posted:Snatched some wins from the jaws of defeat yesterday. Kept dropping into random pubbie SOS missions that were going to hell, the kind where the group that finally extracted had none of the original group members. I accidentally threw a SOS beacon as the super destroyer was leaving instead of reinforcing. I’m so sorry to the guy who dropped into Devastator Ikaruga. Charbal VII and Chort Bay have cool things you can do with those mesas and ranged turrets but if it’s daytime you can see poo poo in the sun.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:08 |
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imo arrowhead should add a system to the game where a poll pops up and asks users to give feedback about the difficulty balance for helldive and if they say it's too hard it just replaces it with 7 without telling the user. it'd fix all of the balance complaints
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:11 |
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turn off the TV posted:imo arrowhead should add a system to the game where a poll pops up and asks users to give feedback about the difficulty balance for helldive and if they say it's too hard it just replaces it with 7 without telling the user. it'd fix all of the balance complaints
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:13 |
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Yeah, frankly Helldive should be like, comically difficult. Like you drop in and see what you're up against and just go
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Heavendivers
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LazyMaybe posted:better than having these teammates on a bot mission The only bad choice there is the flamer.
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# ? May 19, 2024 17:28 |
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Sometimes quick play will jump me from 7 to 9 with no warning and then I'm sosing into 6 bile titans
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johnny park posted:Yeah, frankly Helldive should be like, comically difficult. Like you drop in and see what you're up against and just go Some drop ins between subobjectives are actually like this. Granted you shouldn’t be dropping in between or surrounded by red enemy areas but pubbies do what pubbies do. magiccarpet posted:Sometimes quick play will jump me from 7 to 9 with no warning and then I'm sosing into 6 bile titans Setup the conga line and get them to puke on each other, suddenly there are two bile titans
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Hot drops are great. Yesterday I landed us in a spot perfectly triangulated between two sets of shrieker nests and a spore spewer, with a stalker nest not too far away. This is how the wheat is separated from the chaff
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Risky Bisquick posted:Setup the conga line and get them to puke on each other, suddenly there are two bile titans This is funny when Spewers get Spewed. Hahaha get spewed MY LEG. Also Hunters mid leap intercepting the spew from the spewer is one of those Boons of Joel you rarely see.
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Black Noise posted:I accidentally threw a SOS beacon as the super destroyer was leaving instead of reinforcing. I’m so sorry to the guy who dropped into Devastator Ikaruga. Charbal VII and Chort Bay have cool things you can do with those mesas and ranged turrets but if it’s daytime you can see poo poo in the sun. Last night I was on one of those mesas firing down into a nearby bot base and a Hulk made it up the slope before we could kill it. The resulting explosion launched me clean off the mesa and I broke my leg on a rock. Game owns
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