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Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Does battery replacement at the fruit stand pretty much require an appointment these days, or can I walk in, give them $80, and walk out with a replacement phone? I assume they don't actually take the phone in back and swap the battery and give you the same phone back, do they?

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Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Ultimate Mango posted:

Does battery replacement at the fruit stand pretty much require an appointment these days, or can I walk in, give them $80, and walk out with a replacement phone? I assume they don't actually take the phone in back and swap the battery and give you the same phone back, do they?

Everything requires an appointment.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

And it’ll usually take a few hours.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Ultimate Mango posted:

Does battery replacement at the fruit stand pretty much require an appointment these days, or can I walk in, give them $80, and walk out with a replacement phone? I assume they don't actually take the phone in back and swap the battery and give you the same phone back, do they?

Don't make an appointment; in my experience it doesn't actually help you jump the queue when you get there, and I've done just as well if-not-better without an appointment over the past two years than with one. Either way, when you show up you're told to stand around a table, and if there are no seats at that table you're not really in line yet. You're in line to get in line.

I'd be interested to hear if experiences at other stores have been different—this is Indianapolis I have experience with.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
My experience is usually make appointment, show up, give name and appt time to first employee that asks, they check a device, point to a guy and say “he'll be with you in a few minutes”, and in five minutes or so he is.I usually go mid-afternoon, though.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Grassy Knowles posted:

Don't make an appointment; in my experience it doesn't actually help you jump the queue when you get there

Do you not understand what the word "appointment" means?

My experience without an appointment every single time: show up, get directed to a laptop, asked to make an appointment and come back in 3-5 days at the appointed time.

My experience with an appointment: show up, get checked in, wait a few minutes, talk to genius about problems, they take my phone away and I'm asked to come back in a few hours to pick it up.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money
100% going to depend upon your metro area in regards to how easy an Apple Store walk-in is.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Ultimate Mango posted:

give them $80, and walk out with a replacement phone? I assume they don't actually take the phone in back and swap the battery and give you the same phone back, do they?

No they used to hand out replacement phones like candy for every conceivable thing but nowadays they do a lot of on-site repairs/replacements. I took my 6s in to get a battery replaced and it's definitely the same phone. I think batteries are definitely all replaced in store now.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


I used to show up without an appointment and just wait for a no show. I’d tell them I lived far away and can’t easily come back or something. Absolutely does not work around new phone time or new laptop time.

enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

bobfather posted:

100% going to depend upon your metro area in regards to how easy an Apple Store walk-in is.

Yea, I've got 2 Apple Stores in Orlando that are close enough to the theme parks/main tourist area such that there is constantly elbow room in there at best. Absolutely need an appointment there, and they rarely make good on the time. I've since discovered another store a few cities over that is regularly pretty empty, and could probably handle simple stuff like battery replacements as a walk-in.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Boris Galerkin posted:

Do you not understand what the word "appointment" means?

My experience without an appointment every single time: show up, get directed to a laptop, asked to make an appointment and come back in 3-5 days at the appointed time.

My experience with an appointment: show up, get checked in, wait a few minutes, talk to genius about problems, they take my phone away and I'm asked to come back in a few hours to pick it up.

I understand it perfectly, however the genius bar in Indianapolis does not seem to. I don’t know why you think I’m in charge of this process?

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T2GmGSNvaM

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I go on Friday's at 6 PM any idea why it's so crowded?

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

What's the deal with Apple stores these days?

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


False Toaster posted:

Oh I'm sorry I didn't know you worked for Apple. It's not like I'm just going off what's being leaked in the news this past year. You didn't even bother to read the second half of my post.

Did you really not read any of what we posted about this? It’s simply not true. Apple is not working on Touch ID under the screen. Sorry. Maybe don’t trust loving supply chain rumors so much next time.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

wicka posted:

Did you really not read any of what we posted about this? It’s simply not true. Apple is not working on Touch ID under the screen. Sorry. Maybe don’t trust loving supply chain rumors so much next time.

"We decided a year ago to use FaceID and not TouchID" can be read in a couple ways. (For example maybe they chose to leave out an 'if we couldn't get the production issues solved')

It's probably best for neither of you to get that worked up about it. Maybe the rumours were incorrect. Maybe Apple employees used some precise wording or left out details (or straight up lied) to avoid explaining the entire development process. They have been filing patents in this area. I think it's reasonable to assume they'll base their 2018 decisions on the reception to FaceID in 2017.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Mahoning posted:

I kind of get that. I'm always excited to get a new iPhone or random technology, but they are so iterative at this point that I never understand that level of excitement. Like, March 3rd I was so god drat jacked to get my Nintendo Switch, and that was an industry shifting product and a device that got me back into gaming after over a decade away. And I still didn't post tracking updates.
Switch is just a Wii U with removable controllers though???

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


Josh Lyman posted:

Switch is just a Wii U with removable controllers though???

Oh boy.

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat
Is the Google Assistant worth checking out android for? I am on the Apple upgrade program and always go back and forth on whether "this will be the year" that I try out android, but ultimately I always decide against it since I'm super invested in the Apple ecosystem after using iTunes and the AppStore for since the 4.

I primarily use a gmail email account and have google fiber, so needless to say that corporation is a pretty big constant in my life. Are android phones still janky? Are their apps still weird and more error prone than the ones on iTunes?

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
There’s a Google Assistant app for iOS if you want to try it out.

wicka
Jun 28, 2007


Evis posted:

"We decided a year ago to use FaceID and not TouchID" can be read in a couple ways. (For example maybe they chose to leave out an 'if we couldn't get the production issues solved')

It's probably best for neither of you to get that worked up about it. Maybe the rumours were incorrect. Maybe Apple employees used some precise wording or left out details (or straight up lied) to avoid explaining the entire development process. They have been filing patents in this area. I think it's reasonable to assume they'll base their 2018 decisions on the reception to FaceID in 2017.

No, Touch ID is not in their current plans. It’s the word of a man who has well known connections at Apple vs unsourced supply chain rumors; trusting the latter over the former simply because of a contrived hate boner for a feature people haven’t even tried is insanely childish.

It is of course possible that Face ID falls flat on its face and Apple changes course, but that’s not what’s being discussed. Apple is not actively trying to put Touch ID under the screen, and haven’t been for a very long time.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

I don't really trust someone whose job it is not to discourage people from buying their current offerings.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Yeah I'm not sure why anyone believes what a giant corporation says, let alone the hand picked journalistic mouth piece of a giant corporation. Not saying either rumor is true or not true but Jesus, people sure are drinking the loving kool aid.

Weedle
May 31, 2006




I'd trust Gruber before any of you ding-dongs when it comes to speculation about why Apple does what it does.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Yeah but as was already stated, they're only feeding him whatever information is going to sell as many phones as possible and any information about what might be in any future iPhone beyond the X is no more than speculation by Gruber. There is 0% chance that Apple is or was feeding him any information about anything beyond the 8 or the X.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

The chances of anyone at Apple telling Gruber "Yeah, we really wanted to get TouchID working, but we just couldn't figure it out. FaceID is the best we could do." is basically 0.

FaceID may be incredible and Apple really did stop working on TouchID a year ago, but either way they weren't going to tell Gruber they hosed it up

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


The only person I trust about Apple was forced out for his visionary ideals of how digital products should look like real products.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

What blogs/sites do you guys like for Apple news? I usually just go to MacRumors.

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
"Yeah, the next phone is actually going to be super super good. The iPhone X is just okay but man when you see what we've got in store for 2018 you're going to wish you hadn't bought it. Like, you're gonna feel so dumb. Don't buy the iPhone X." - Tim Cook

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

namaste faggots posted:

Lifehack: block all your apps from using location services, except when you're actually using the app and watch your battery life go up dramatically

Can't wait for IOS11 so I can do this to Waze.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

~Coxy posted:

Can't wait for IOS11 so I can do this to Waze.
iOS 10:

Fly Ricky
May 7, 2009

The Wine Taster
Since owning an iPhone 6+ since launch, my battery has understandably gone to poo poo. Same if not less daily usage, runs to 0% before nightfall. Not impressed with the current offerings, I decided to just upgrade the battery and wait another year or two if possible.

Got to the juice stand, they run analytics on my iPhone, and tell me the battery is still showing 91% capacity from new?!? I explain that can't possibly be true, they try to "teach" me how certain apps can delete battery life, etc. Eventually they say in rare cases in can be a logic board issue, which necessitates a new iPhone.

Anyone else run into this? I'm not particularly interested in buying a NEW 6+, so it would seem like it or not an 8+ is in my future.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

^^^^^hmm I wonder if that's what's up with mine. It didn't seem like a slow slip into slowness and bad battery life.

I said earlier this year that I wouldn't upgrade my 6s+ because it still works great. Fast forward to a few months ago my phone now feels slow and my battery is pretty shot, so I guess it's time. Also out of storage on my 128.

I figured when I upgraded, I'd just get the top of the line as usual, but this time I'm not sure I want the X. The screen is nice but extra features don't seem that cool to me. Also I'm not sure if I'd like the no home button thing. It's nice having a hardware button to escape what you're doing and hide the porn when someone walks in the room. I'm thinking I'll just go with an 8+ until the X-2 or 3 or what comes on 2 years from now.

Haggins fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Sep 17, 2017

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.


Don't some apps not have that option available though?

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

That's exactly what I'm doing. Going from a 6S+ to an 8+. The X is nice and fancy but also kinda dumb and too pricy. The jump to an 8+ seems like the most reasonable route and that phone should last quite a few years unless you absolutely must have the newest things asap.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Fly Ricky posted:

Since owning an iPhone 6+ since launch, my battery has understandably gone to poo poo. Same if not less daily usage, runs to 0% before nightfall. Not impressed with the current offerings, I decided to just upgrade the battery and wait another year or two if possible.

Got to the juice stand, they run analytics on my iPhone, and tell me the battery is still showing 91% capacity from new?!? I explain that can't possibly be true, they try to "teach" me how certain apps can delete battery life, etc. Eventually they say in rare cases in can be a logic board issue, which necessitates a new iPhone.

Anyone else run into this? I'm not particularly interested in buying a NEW 6+, so it would seem like it or not an 8+ is in my future.

Same thing happens to me on my 6S+. Diagnostics showed green even though it takes 10 mins to go from 90 to 55%. They told me to go a restore since it’s like a “tune up” on your phone and sent me on my way.

I got sick of my battery dying at 11am do I just got an 8S+.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

Don't some apps not have that option available though?

Yeah, the post I was responding to was talking about Waze though.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
I guess they saw the writing on the wall and finally caved.

Edit: nope, I'm wrong. Guess it is an IOS10 thing.
I had thought all the articles were claiming it to be an IOS11 beta feature...

~Coxy fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Sep 17, 2017

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Jose Valasquez posted:

The chances of anyone at Apple telling Gruber "Yeah, we really wanted to get TouchID working, but we just couldn't figure it out. FaceID is the best we could do." is basically 0.

FaceID may be incredible and Apple really did stop working on TouchID a year ago, but either way they weren't going to tell Gruber they hosed it up

That's not what they told him though. According to Gruber several of his connections told him that they stopped working on touchid because they felt they didn't need it anymore. That's it. No speculation on actually why.

Taken at face value I read it as "the faceid team showed the entire X team a demo and the decision makers (Tim, Ive) liked it so much that they told the touchid team to drop it to focus on face id."

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