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Concerned Citizen posted:his favorability is already like 55~ ish so it's not like that's a significant change. galenanorth posted:The biggest problem I see Bernie Sanders facing is that he does have a quote praising Venezuela on record. It's like the difference between a tattered and ragged rug with piss stains and a polished, ornate marble floor with a little piece of gum stuck to it. People are going to bring up the gum. A significant difference I imagine we will see from Bernie on the campaign trail when/if he runs in 2020 is that much of what he'll be attacked (though not all) on he can embrace and turn into an asset. Oh no, they're calling me a socialist again, however will I respond to that charge?
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safely sodomized posted:99% of americans could give a poo poo about venezuela probably couldn't even find it on the map
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:06 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:A significant difference I imagine we will see from Bernie on the campaign trail when/if he runs in 2020 is that much of what he'll be attacked (though not all) on he can embrace and turn into an asset. Oh no, they're calling me a socialist again, however will I respond to that charge? I think the power of that word too has been lost on account of republicans constantly assailing Obama with it. They have cried wolf and now I don't think people are quite as apt to listen.
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:08 |
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galenanorth posted:The biggest problem I see Bernie Sanders facing is that he does have a quote praising Venezuela on record. It's like the difference between a tattered and ragged rug with piss stains and a polished, ornate marble floor with a little piece of gum stuck to it. People are going to bring up the gum. they're gonna use that, cuba, the honeymoon to the soviet union, whatever to paint him as being way out of step on foreign policy. that stuff has been floating around, but hillary never really weaponized it as after march 15 she believed the primary was largely wrapped up and didn't want to risk alienating his diehard supporters (which happened anyway lol). but actually i think probably the biggest problem facing bernie isn't even that, it's just his age. he's pretty old now and by the 2020 primaries he's gonna look even more like the cryptkeeper. in a hillary vs. bernie race a lot of people are fine with looking past that since they may have held a lot of antipathy toward hillary, but with a large field he might bleed support to younger candidates.
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:09 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:they're gonna use that, cuba, the honeymoon to the soviet union, whatever to paint him as being way out of step on foreign policy. that stuff has been floating around, but hillary never really weaponized it as after march 15 she believed the primary was largely wrapped up and didn't want to risk alienating his diehard supporters (which happened anyway lol). but actually i think probably the biggest problem facing bernie isn't even that, it's just his age. he's pretty old now and by the 2020 primaries he's gonna look even more like the cryptkeeper. in a hillary vs. bernie race a lot of people are fine with looking past that since they may have held a lot of antipathy toward hillary, but with a large field he might bleed support to younger candidates. lol Bernie,s actual incompetence on foreign policy is going to be what they attack him not his honeymoon
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:10 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol Bernie,s actual incompetence on foreign policy is going to be what they attack him not his honeymoon he's absolutely gonna get attacked on that, it's too perfect given the russia poo poo floating around.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol Bernie,s actual incompetence on foreign policy is going to be what they attack him not his honeymoon The maintenance of the empire is a concern of the bourgeoisie.
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Concerned Citizen posted:he's absolutely gonna get attacked on that, it's too perfect given the russia poo poo floating around. I'm glad that Hillary's amazing foreign policy record gave her a landslide victory over Trump!
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:14 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:he's absolutely gonna get attacked on that, it's too perfect given the russia poo poo floating around. lol no one cares that wasn't going to vote straight ticket fascist anyway
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:16 |
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etalian posted:I'm glad that Hillary's amazing foreign policy record gave her a landslide victory over Trump! i'm not attacking bernie (the 'honeymoon' iirc was part of a sister cities thing, not because of his ideological love for the soviets) i'm just saying he's going to get hit on it by the field to raise questions about whether you can really trust him without having to actually call him anti-american since that's generally not considered cool in democratic primaries.
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:16 |
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I really don't think anyone cared about Bernie and Hillary's argument over Nicaragua in 2016 and I doubt they'll care about stuff like that in 2020, sadly.
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:16 |
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that makes me like manning more tho also lol the polysci lawyer doing the thing again where they call centrism "progressive" my kinda ape posted:You could make this same argument about the original CSA but that would be pretty fuckin' lovely for all the people enslaved there! true. that's my main argument against balkanization, though i'm still tempted to support it anyway because it's not like the status quo is great. also the corollary: there are some lovely parts of blue states too, like Kamala, prison and police authoritarianism, fygm trickle-down libertarianism, low density rural shits still having too many seats in state legislatures
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:17 |
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Joementum posted:I really don't think anyone cared about Bernie and Hillary's argument over Nicaragua in 2016 and I doubt they'll care about stuff like that in 2020, sadly. I cared! I cared so much!
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:18 |
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Venom Snake posted:Can we follow the chapo friends lead and stop posting mentally ill hillary people tweets ITT you gotta admit it'll be neat when the cops discover the giant hillary altar in candice aiston's back bedroom after she's arrested for trying to kill her single white female style
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:19 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I cared! I cared so much! same! i wooted when they started arguing about whether Kissinger is good or bad (the answer seems pretty clear to me ) but you could tell the audience was bored and the moderators wanted to move on
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Come to think of it, as far as no one caring about foreign policy, no one cared even when Trump wanted to violate Article 5 of NATO
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:21 |
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Joementum posted:same! i wooted when they started arguing about whether Kissinger is good or bad (the answer seems pretty clear to me ) but you could tell the audience was bored and the moderators wanted to move on it's kind of great how americans are blind, deaf and dumb on foreign policy until someone says 'Afghanistan' and a switch gets flipped in the back of their brain
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:23 |
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Joementum posted:same! i wooted when they started arguing about whether Kissinger is good or bad (the answer seems pretty clear to me ) but you could tell the audience was bored and the moderators wanted to move on
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:23 |
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Is this real
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:23 |
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galenanorth posted:Come to think of it, as far as no one caring about foreign policy, no one cared even when Trump wanted to violate Article 5 of NATO people don't give trump enough credit for his good ideas
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:24 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:you gotta admit it'll be neat when the cops discover the giant hillary altar in candice aiston's back bedroom after she's arrested for trying to kill her single white female style single woke female
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:24 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Is this real what does your heart say
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:24 |
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Joementum posted:people don't give trump enough credit for his good ideas giving russia a free hand in its former republics is a bad idea
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:24 |
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logikv9 posted:what does your heart say I don't have one
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I don't have one what does your liver say
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:26 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Is this real Not in the sense that she'll stop being wealthy.
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:30 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:that stuff has been floating around, but hillary never really weaponized it well except that time they fed univision that clip from 85 of sanders discussing castro
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:30 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:well except that time they fed univision that clip from 85 of sanders discussing castro did they feed it? pretty sure it had been floating around long before univision aired it and anyway i'm talking about their tv ads, not just a few stories on whatever news station.
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:31 |
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Office Pig posted:what does your liver say it's dickeye, that likely disappeared long ago
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:32 |
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there's also the two foot thick binder of opposition research on Bernie that contained a VHS tape which Kurt Eichenwald definitely saw and isn't lying about
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:33 |
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Joementum posted:there's also the two foot thick binder of opposition research on Bernie that contained a VHS tape which Kurt Eichenwald definitely saw and isn't lying about turns out the tape was hentai
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Oh Snapple! posted:it's dickeye, that likely disappeared long ago It's tiny but it's there
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:33 |
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*in extremely bernie voice* now, word on the street is, im a socialist. they're wrong. *pauses, wags finger* im a communist
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:34 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:It's tiny but it's there I'm glad for you
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Over Easy posted:Not in the sense that she'll stop being wealthy. Will she stop having huge titties
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Concerned Citizen posted:did they feed it? pretty sure it had been floating around long before univision aired it it was during the debate in miami the day after sanders won michigan
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:36 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it was during the debate in miami the day after sanders won michigan yeah but buzzfeed had posted it like a year earlier
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# ? Aug 26, 2017 20:37 |
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Calibanibal posted:*in extremely bernie voice* now, word on the street is, im a socialist. they're wrong.
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Concerned Citizen posted:yeah but buzzfeed had posted it like a year earlier no one cares, the old rules are no longer valid
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